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Since: Dec 30, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:56 pm
Post subject: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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| Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the Olympus 1 GB
xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from any other manufacturer.
I must be missing something here because I though that these card were just
digital storage media.
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Since: Jan 29, 2007 Posts: 28
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:56 pm
Post subject: Re: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Mar 15, 4:36 pm, "M" <spamt... RemoveThis @spambouncer.org> wrote:
> "cgiorgio" <m... RemoveThis @nowhere.org> wrote in message
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> > "M" <spamt... RemoveThis @spambouncer.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> >> Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the Olympus 1
> >> GB xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from any other
> >> manufacturer. I must be missing something here because I though that
> >> these card were just digital storage media.
> >> Thanks
> > xD cars contain some normally not accessible system files, just as the now
> > obsolete Smart Media cards did. The in camera panorama function is pretty
> > useless aniway, so why bother?
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> Thanks for your reply. Does the Panorama function work by 'letterboxing'
> the picture as in the days of 35 mm Panorama and there easily done Photoshop
> or similar?
I have no experience with "stitching" functions other than with the
Olympus system, and I must say that if panoramas is what you want then
this is one fine system! Long ago I used to have to stitch together
micrographs in PS, and I must say it was one tedious hell of a job.
I do not think there is a similar program in later PS versions than
the 7.0 that I have. But anyway, there is a propriatory program
embedded into the Olympus cards that allows for this function to work
with their software. It might only be a block that adds a tag/code
added on to the images to allow the Olympus proprietary software to
process the images as sequential panorama images. But in any case, if
you really like doing panoramas I cannot see the extra few bucks spent
on the cards as a waste. There might be a hack for this, but this is
the wrong forum and I the wrong person to address this issue.
Anyway, I could not believe how minimally I needed to correct Olympus
panorama montages, in PS. It is *much* more difficult to do it by
trying to "manually" stitch individual photos together with PS.
As far as the panorama function being useless, I really should not
comment; The person who wrote this probably has a different idea of
what "fun" is than I do. :>)
Cheers, all!
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Since: Feb 26, 2007 Posts: 23
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:56 pm
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"M" <spamtrap.TakeThisOut@spambouncer.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:55ttv8F2706fmU1@mid.individual.net...
> Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the Olympus 1
> GB xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from any other
> manufacturer. I must be missing something here because I though that these
> card were just digital storage media.
> Thanks
xD cars contain some normally not accessible system files, just as the now
obsolete Smart Media cards did. The in camera panorama function is pretty
useless aniway, so why bother? >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Dec 30, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:56 pm
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"cgiorgio" <me.RemoveThis@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:etcgvf$lvg$02$1@news.t-online.com...
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> "M" <spamtrap.RemoveThis@spambouncer.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:55ttv8F2706fmU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the Olympus 1
>> GB xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from any other
>> manufacturer. I must be missing something here because I though that
>> these card were just digital storage media.
>> Thanks
> xD cars contain some normally not accessible system files, just as the now
> obsolete Smart Media cards did. The in camera panorama function is pretty
> useless aniway, so why bother?
Thanks for your reply. Does the Panorama function work by 'letterboxing'
the picture as in the days of 35 mm Panorama and there easily done Photoshop
or similar? >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 3969
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:49 pm
Post subject: Re: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:00:07 -0000, M wrote:
> Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the
> Olympus 1 GB xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from
> any other manufacturer.
> I must be missing something here because I though that these card
> were just digital storage media.
As mentioned in another reply, the Olympus cards are slightly
different. But I'm not sure why a 2GB card wouldn't work if it's
made by Olympus, since I've seen panorama mode work when using a
Type M 2GB xD card. I'll admit that it's a bit trickier entering
panorama mode in the Olympus camera I used, since unlike my Canon
cameras, the panorama assist isn't selected by the shooting mode
selector dial, but by entering the camera's menu and searching for
it. If you don't know that you have to select the Function option
you might not realize that the camera has a panorama assist ability.
Another thing that might trip some people up is if they have a dual
card Olympus camera and forget to switch it from CF to xD. >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:13 pm
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M wrote:
> Can anyone explain why the Olympus Panorama only works with the Olympus 1 GB
> xD card and not the 2 GB card or any xD card from any other manufacturer.
> I must be missing something here because I though that these card were just
> digital storage media.
> Thanks
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Is your 2GB card a type H and is it an Olympus brand?
From
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XD-Picture_Card
"As of 2006, Type H cards are only available in 256MB, 512MB, 1GB, and
2GB capacities (the 2GB type H card is currently only available in
Japan). Olympus says that its Type H xD cards support special "picture
effects" when used in some Olympus cameras, though these software
features are not intrinsically hardware-dependent. This dependence may
be seen as a weak form of tying."
"Olympus branded xD cards are the only ones to support Olympus'
panoramic function. Although they store data identically, this is an
attempt by Olympus to sell more cards. " >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Nov 14, 2007 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:45 pm
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In article <55ttv8F2706fmU1 DeleteThis @mid.individual.net>,
<spamtrap DeleteThis @spambouncer.org> wrote:
> because I though that these card were just
> digital storage media.
I'm sorry to say that I learned the hard way that this is not the case.
xD cards are proprietary to Olympus and are licensed by Fuji for use in
some cameras, and some xD card types are incompatible with some
equipment.
The only thing I can suggest is to read the camera manual on the
panorama function and follow its suggestions regarding xD card type and
size.
(My other suggestion is not to buy cameras that use xD cards, but
that's too late for you and me.)
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Since: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 108
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:04 pm
Post subject: Re: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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When I found many years ago this feature in my Olympus I tried it
immediately and found that the image resolution is limited, actually very
poor and I have no any reason of using it. Instead all images that I made in
high resilution mode I renewed using Hugin with the best results. Thanks to
this NG for pointing me to this great app! It also can use external tools
and pretty nicely configurable. I recommend to try it before returning back
to the Oly pano mode again
"Phil Stripling" <philip.TakeThisOut@alumni.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
news:160320070945147406%philip@alumni.rutgers.edu...
> In article <55ttv8F2706fmU1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>,
> <spamtrap.TakeThisOut@spambouncer.org> wrote:
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>> because I though that these card were just
>> digital storage media.
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> I'm sorry to say that I learned the hard way that this is not the case.
> xD cards are proprietary to Olympus and are licensed by Fuji for use in
> some cameras, and some xD card types are incompatible with some
> equipment.
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> The only thing I can suggest is to read the camera manual on the
> panorama function and follow its suggestions regarding xD card type and
> size.
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> (My other suggestion is not to buy cameras that use xD cards, but
> that's too late for you and me.)
>
> --
> Phil Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
> The Civilized Explorer | spam and read later. email from this URL
> http://www.cieux.com/ | http://www.civex.com/ is read daily. >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Feb 11, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:29 pm
Post subject: Re: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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All cards contain data that specify the manufacturer, size, speed,
etc. and probably a unique serial number. Olympus cameras query this
information and enable panorama mode only when an Olympus branded card
is detected. This is to encourage you to buy Olympus cards and
contribute to Olympus' bottom line. This was the case 10 years ago
(for example, with my D-320L) and is still the case now.
10 years ago my D-320L was the cheap bottom-end 0.3 megapixel model.
There was also an expensive D-600 SLR-like camera. The same genuine
Olympus card would enable panorama mode on both cameras, as well as
all the models in-between. >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Jun 25, 2006 Posts: 33
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:41 pm
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>When I found many years ago this feature in my Olympus I tried it
>immediately and found that the image resolution is limited, actually very
>poor and I have no any reason of using it. Instead all images that I made in
>high resilution mode I renewed using Hugin with the best results. Thanks to
>this NG for pointing me to this great app! It also can use external tools
>and pretty nicely configurable. I recommend to try it before returning back
>to the Oly pano mode again
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I have the E330 which holds two cards - an xD card and a Compact
Flash. I did not plan on using the xD card until someone posted one on
sale very cheap.
With regards to the Pano function - I used it for several pictures on
a trip to Italy last year and was very happy with the resulting
pictures. No problem with the resolution being limited at all. >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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Since: Jan 07, 2007 Posts: 108
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:41 pm
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Maybe Oly fixed somehting, but I always use the highest resolution available
for the camera. The pano mode was forcing me to switch to the medium
resolution instead and I refused of using it at all.
Just D.
"Steven Wandy"
> With regards to the Pano function - I used it for several pictures on
> a trip to Italy last year and was very happy with the resulting
> pictures. No problem with the resolution being limited at all. >> Stay informed about: xD Picture Cards and Olympus Panorama |
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