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Since: Dec 19, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:11 pm
Post subject: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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Since: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 3969
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:38 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 19 Dec 2006 21:11:09 -0800, ab sell wrote:
> any thoughts - the only difference between A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP)
> is:
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> 4 vs 2 batteries
> 8 MP vs 7 MP
Check what I have to say because my memory may not be 100%
accurate, and it's too late or I don't have the energy at the moment
to check it myself, but . . .
The A630 has a smaller LCD display, but it is the much more useful
type that swivels and rotates.
The A630 is able to focus quicker and more accurately in low
light, even without using the AF illuminator.
The A710 has a 6x zoom lens vs the A630's 4x zoom.
The A630 is better for noise free shots in low light because it
uses a larger sensor, 1/1.8" vs the A710's 1/2.5" sensor.
For stationary subjects in dim light, the A710 can take steadier
shots due to having IS, which the A630 lacks. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Dec 19, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:40 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Thanks for all your comments. I checked some reviews on Amazon and I
believe the batteries get drained faster in both of these.
Are any other similar Cameras with rechargable batteries better?
Paul Rubin wrote:
> "SimonLW" <nospam.RemoveThis@donet.com> writes:
> > I have the the A540 and A610. The A710 uses a similar sized (read tiny)
> > sensor as the A540. I find it to be noisy for my needs so I'm giving it away
> > as a gift this Xmas. The A610/620, A630/640 is on a whole other level in
> > image quality.
>
> Hmm, is the 710 noisier than the 540? I sometimes think of getting a
> 710 because of its IS, though it has too many pixels for my
> preferences. I now have a 530 (fairly similar to 540) and its noise
> levels are tolerable for the way I use it. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Nov 23, 2005 Posts: 1029
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:46 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"ab sell" <itemsale2003 RemoveThis @yahoo.ca> writes:
> Thanks for all your comments. I checked some reviews on Amazon and I
> believe the batteries get drained faster in both of these.
The 630 and 710? Battery life should be reasonably good with both,
especially the 630 (which uses four cells).
> Are any other similar Cameras with rechargable batteries better?
The 540 and especially the 610/620 might run even longer, but the
difference shouldn't matter much. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:58 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 20 Dic, 14:40, "ab sell" <itemsale2....DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> Thanks for all your comments. I checked some reviews on Amazon and I
> believe the batteries get drained faster in both of these.
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Not the case at all!
the A710 get regularely over 350 pics, the 630 more (but not the
double) with standard 2500 NiMH.
If you look at some compact cameras with proprietary litium
rechargeables (for exaple the Ixus 65) do a lot worse.
g. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 379
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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ASAAR wrote:
> The A630 is better for noise free shots in low light because it
> uses a larger sensor, 1/1.8" vs the A710's 1/2.5" sensor.
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> For stationary subjects in dim light, the A710 can take steadier
> shots due to having IS, which the A630 lacks.
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Doesn't the A630's better low light sensitivity mitigate this?
BugBear >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 3969
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:55 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:39:40 +0000, bugbear wrote:
>> The A630 is better for noise free shots in low light because it
>> uses a larger sensor, 1/1.8" vs the A710's 1/2.5" sensor.
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>> For stationary subjects in dim light, the A710 can take steadier
>> shots due to having IS, which the A630 lacks.
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> Doesn't the A630's better low light sensitivity mitigate this?
Somewhat, but not enough to match the A710's IS (sez I, who has
never used an A710). But as I said, only for stationary objects.
If they're moving, IS won't help avoid subject blur. So when IS can
be used (and is needed), it's a probably a little better, otherwise
the advantage would go to the A6x0's with their larger sensors. In
any case, for the *best* shots of stationary subjects, a tripod
can't be beat, and makes the A710 little more than an A700. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Sep 14, 2005 Posts: 187
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:55 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"ab sell" <itemsale2003 DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1166591469.807329.93560@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
> any thoughts - the only difference between A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP)
> is:
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> 4 vs 2 batteries
> 8 MP vs 7 MP
>
I have the the A540 and A610. The A710 uses a similar sized (read tiny)
sensor as the A540. I find it to be noisy for my needs so I'm giving it away
as a gift this Xmas. The A610/620, A630/640 is on a whole other level in
image quality.
The A710 has a longer zoom and IS. It is a bit smaller and lighter but more
plasticy. The A630 has a solid look and feel of a quality machine with the
aluminum lens rings and front panel.
-S >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Nov 23, 2005 Posts: 1029
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:55 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"SimonLW" <nospam.TakeThisOut@donet.com> writes:
> I have the the A540 and A610. The A710 uses a similar sized (read tiny)
> sensor as the A540. I find it to be noisy for my needs so I'm giving it away
> as a gift this Xmas. The A610/620, A630/640 is on a whole other level in
> image quality.
Hmm, is the 710 noisier than the 540? I sometimes think of getting a
710 because of its IS, though it has too many pixels for my
preferences. I now have a 530 (fairly similar to 540) and its noise
levels are tolerable for the way I use it. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 3969
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:07 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 20 Dec 2006 05:40:51 -0800, ab sell wrote:
> Thanks for all your comments. I checked some reviews on Amazon and I
> believe the batteries get drained faster in both of these.
>
> Are any other similar Cameras with rechargable batteries better?
Unless you mean that batteries in the A530, A540 and A710IS don't
last as long as batteries in the A630 (which is true, since the
former use only two AA cells and the A630 uses 4), don't believe
comments from Amazon. Many or most similar cameras from other
manufacturers get many fewer shots per charge than these Canons.
The A530/A540 and A710IS have excellent battery life. Using
rechargeable NiMH batteries, the A710IS is rated at 360 shots per
charge if the flash is frequently used and the LCD display is used.
For non-flash photography and using the viewfinder, the A710IS can
take 900 shots per charge. I doubt that you'll find another camera
that gets more shots from a pair of NiMH batteries. You'd do well
to get your information from sources more reliable than Amazon, and
these would be most of the camera review websites frequently
mentioned in this newsgroup's messages. Read them often enough and
you'll eventually get to the point where you'll know which poster's
camera comments are objective and worth considering, which ones are
tainted by a predictable bias, and which ones (are you reading this,
kinga?) should never be considered except for laughs. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Jul 27, 2006 Posts: 448
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:26 pm
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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SimonLW wrote:
> "Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7xk60miup7.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com...
>> "SimonLW" <nospam.RemoveThis@donet.com> writes:
>>> I have the the A540 and A610. The A710 uses a similar sized (read tiny)
>>> sensor as the A540. I find it to be noisy for my needs so I'm giving it
>>> away
>>> as a gift this Xmas. The A610/620, A630/640 is on a whole other level in
>>> image quality.
>> Hmm, is the 710 noisier than the 540? I sometimes think of getting a
>> 710 because of its IS, though it has too many pixels for my
>> preferences. I now have a 530 (fairly similar to 540) and its noise
>> levels are tolerable for the way I use it.
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> I can't say it is more noisy, but should be at least as noisy. In auto ISO
> normal indoor shoots have noise in the mid to darker areas. The A610 looks
> so much cleaner. If you can audition the camera in the store and take the
> card home to view, you can get a good idea. That what I should have done.
> -S
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I think bringing your own card in is a good idea. You could shoot
different canons models using the same card (I believe all the later A
models use sd cards.) By the by, I got 650 shots in an A95 (4 cells)
using never charged (by me) eneloop. I suspect the later models have
less drain than my camera. Although I like 600+ shots, I could settle
for half that if a model only used 2 cells, but based on my A95 I think
I would settle for the A630/640. I also suspect by the time I'm ready to
get another model there'll be 6x zoom version of these with IS.
Dave Cohen >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: Dec 21, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:55 am
Post subject: Re: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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ab sell:
> any thoughts - the only difference between A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP)
> is:
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> 4 vs 2 batteries
> 8 MP vs 7 MP
I've just bought a 710 IS. The results are fine compared to my 6 yr old Oly
4040 but the LCD is ABSOLUTELY SHITE! No camera, even very cheap ones should
have displays this bad. It's not that the pixel count is low, that's a red
herring but its brightness varies far too much over relatively small angles.
My SE phone has a better LCD than this model! You cannot change the display
brightness either with the A710 IS. Manufacturers would be better off
fitting smaller displays of better quality than cutting corners.
Otherwise, it's a good camera. Not many have such a wide zoom range in such
a small camera. Do I regret buying it? No - I knew all this before
purchase - I preferred it it to the 4xAA A630 (the articulating display
panel didn't want to click securely back in position which didn't impress me
although the quality is better) .
The IS works well & the noise even at 800 ISO ain't that bad at all. As for
the bundled software package - the less said about that the better but the
A630 has that in common I suspect. I've just uninstalled all the Canon
bloatware & just use what's already in WinXP. Good luck with your decision.
As an aside, I looked at the Fuji Z30 'cos it has legendary low noise at
high ISOs - its was just too small. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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Since: May 17, 2006 Posts: 22
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:34 am
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Since: Dec 19, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:43 am
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Since: Aug 02, 2005 Posts: 3969
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:35 am
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On 22 Dec 2006 05:43:32 -0800, ab sell wrote:
> rboy505.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I have a 640, and the battery life is very good. And I'm generally
>> very happy with the camera and its results.
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> Thanks again. How about the PSremote software capability. I believe
> A630 does not have this...
I'm surprised that you're aware of this software capability, and
it doesn't square with your original question that indicated an
almost extreme ignorance of the features of Canon's P&S cameras. >> Stay informed about: thoughts on Canon A630 (8 MP) Vs A710 (7 MP) |
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