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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:55 am
Post subject: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ?
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Just bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 and am very pleased with it. It outputs jpg
images in two compression levels but doesn't state what level the best is
(7M pixels translate into a 3Mb file).
So I thought I would experiment with RAW files. But cannot view them using
Irfanview 3.98 or edit them with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.
Irfanview does not give an error but displays an image that looks like just
noise.
Adobe now have a program/plugin that will read DMC-FZ8 raw files but cannot
be used with anything less than Elements 5.
Can anyone advise on how to overcome this problem? I gather there might be
a DNG based process but don't understand it.
thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:00 pm
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Davy" <david.DeleteThis@REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Just bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 and am very pleased with it. It outputs
> jpg
> images in two compression levels but doesn't state what level the best is
> (7M pixels translate into a 3Mb file).
> So I thought I would experiment with RAW files. But cannot view them
> using
> Irfanview 3.98 or edit them with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.
> Irfanview does not give an error but displays an image that looks like
> just
> noise.
>
> Adobe now have a program/plugin that will read DMC-FZ8 raw files but
> cannot
> be used with anything less than Elements 5.
>
> Can anyone advise on how to overcome this problem? I gather there might
> be
> a DNG based process but don't understand it.
>
> thanks
>
> Davy
>
>
Irfanview 3.91 reads RAW files OK from my old Canon G2, giving a quick
640x480 pixel preview. You could try contacting Irfanview to see if there
is an update for your camera.
For extracting the maximum quality from RAW files, and saving them as TIFFs,
BMPs or jpegs, I have found RawTherapee really excellent -
http://www.rawtherapee.com/?page=download - free, and if you like it you can
donate via PayPal.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:17 pm
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <YJ-dnd8uo6GMA27bnZ2dnUVZ8qminZ2d.RemoveThis@brightview.com>,
"Davy" <david.RemoveThis@REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote:
> Just bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 and am very pleased with it. It outputs jpg
> images in two compression levels but doesn't state what level the best is
> (7M pixels translate into a 3Mb file).
> So I thought I would experiment with RAW files. But cannot view them using
> Irfanview 3.98 or edit them with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.
> Irfanview does not give an error but displays an image that looks like just
> noise.
Why not use the software that came with your camera? >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:55 am
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Shawn Hirn" <srhi RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Why not use the software that came with your camera?
Silkypix came with the camera but I don't want to install it cos I
understand (maybe incorrectly) that it is a full blown picture editor and I
don't want to install a large amount of software. Also it will be an older
version and with probably no chance of updates?
So I went for Rawtherapee - it is a raw converter and nothing else and
updates freely available.
Davy >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:55 am
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:11:28 +0100, "Davy"
<david RemoveThis @REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote:
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>"Shawn Hirn" <srhi RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:srhi-B41823.22172921092007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>> Why not use the software that came with your camera?
>
>Silkypix came with the camera but I don't want to install it cos I
>understand (maybe incorrectly) that it is a full blown picture editor and I
>don't want to install a large amount of software. Also it will be an older
>version and with probably no chance of updates?
It's a raw converter, not a picture editor. The version
supplied is specifically for your camera, it's the
well-proven and stable version 2 and needs no updates.
>So I went for Rawtherapee - it is a raw converter and nothing else and
>updates freely available.
And it's not as good a raw converter as Silkypix, nor is it
"finished" software. That's why it needs frequent bug-fixes.
I find your reasoning a bit odd, but it's your choice of
course.
--
John Bean >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:30 am
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Davy wrote:
> Just bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 and am very pleased with it. It outputs jpg
> images in two compression levels but doesn't state what level the best is
> (7M pixels translate into a 3Mb file).
> So I thought I would experiment with RAW files. But cannot view them using
> Irfanview 3.98 or edit them with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.
> Irfanview does not give an error but displays an image that looks like just
> noise.
>
> Adobe now have a program/plugin that will read DMC-FZ8 raw files but cannot
> be used with anything less than Elements 5.
>
> Can anyone advise on how to overcome this problem? I gather there might be
> a DNG based process but don't understand it.
>
> thanks
>
> Davy
>
>
Maybe you can use adobe raw converter ?
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3730
Your camera is supported as far as I can see.
Wim >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:08 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:12 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:56 am
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"John Bean" <waterfoot DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:11:28 +0100, "Davy"
> <david DeleteThis @REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote:
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> >
> >"Shawn Hirn" <srhi DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:srhi-B41823.22172921092007@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> >> Why not use the software that came with your camera?
> >
> >Silkypix .........>
> It's a raw converter, not a picture editor. The version
> supplied is specifically for your camera, it's the
> well-proven and stable version 2 and needs no updates.
>
> >So I went for Rawtherapee -
> And it's not as good a raw converter as Silkypix, nor is it
> "finished" software. That's why it needs frequent bug-fixes.
>
> I find your reasoning a bit odd, but it's your choice of
> course.
>
> --
> John Bean
John,
my reasoning is not odd, just ignorant. Thanks for your advice. I will
install Silkypix; after a raw converter is unlikely to be excellent for all
subjects so I will have a choice of using Silkypix or Rawtherapee depending
upon image and results.
thanks, Davy >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:24 am
Post subject: Re: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview and Elements 2 ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:09 pm
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"Barry Pearson" <news.TakeThisOut@childsupportanalysis.co.uk> wrote in message >
> You can use the DNG route. Convert to DNG with the latest DNG
> Converter, then process the DNGs with older versions of ACR in older
> Adobe products.
> http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/articles/dng/ps_cs.htm
Barry, your reply is timely. I have just installed Silkypix that came with
the camera and it doesn't seem to work on my system - varying the sharpness
had no effect on the preview (even with preview refresh checked) or the
saved (developed) image.
I was beginning to wonder what was the point of Silkypix and Rawtherapee
when I could do exactly the same, or better, with my existing Photoshop
Elements 2 package without needing to learn a new package - if only I could
get the raw image into my Elements 2.
Your DNG route sounds interesting but I think that Elements 3 was the first
version that could read DNG files (??).
So if I need to upgrade to version 3 then I might as well go all the way to
version 5 which will read the raw file from my Panasonic DMC-FZ8
But part of me says that I would be foolish to leave my raw files in a
camera proprietary format which one day may be unusable - better to convert
to DNG?
Davy >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:38 pm
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"Davy" <david RemoveThis @REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote in message
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> So if I need to upgrade to version 3 then I might as well go all the way
to
> version 5 which will read the raw file from my Panasonic DMC-FZ8
>
whoops, just found out that the highest version of Photoshop Element that my
Windows 2000 will run is V3. So looks like the DNG route it is.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:51 pm
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:08:37 +0100, "Davy" <david.DeleteThis@REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk>
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>"TrevM" <nospam.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> For extracting the maximum quality from RAW files, and saving them as
>TIFFs,
>> BMPs or jpegs, I have found RawTherapee really excellent -
>> http://www.rawtherapee.com/?page=download - free, and if you like it you
>can
>> donate via PayPal.
>>
>Thanks TrevM, I downloaded and installed Rawtherapee and it works a treat.
>Crashed once and does not seem to allow me to reduce an image to web size -
>but otherwise excellent.
>
>Davy
>
If you want an editor with more features than PhotoShop, is a full 32-bit
platform as opposed to 16-bit only Photoshop, can also read nearly every RAW
file on earth, even some unknown experimental RAW formats, then get PhotoLine 32
from www.pl32.com
Though for freeware/donationware RAW Therapee can't be beat. I like it much
better than Adobe's Lightroom. Much more processing control on the RAW data. >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:53 pm
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:35:25 +0100, "Davy"
<david RemoveThis @REMOVEallTHISchobham.org.uk> wrote in
<YJ-dnd8uo6GMA27bnZ2dnUVZ8qminZ2d RemoveThis @brightview.com>:
>Just bought a Panasonic DMC-FZ8 and am very pleased with it. It outputs jpg
>images in two compression levels but doesn't state what level the best is
>(7M pixels translate into a 3Mb file).
>So I thought I would experiment with RAW files. But cannot view them using
>Irfanview 3.98 or edit them with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.
>Irfanview does not give an error but displays an image that looks like just
>noise.
>
>Adobe now have a program/plugin that will read DMC-FZ8 raw files but cannot
>be used with anything less than Elements 5.
>
>Can anyone advise on how to overcome this problem? I gather there might be
>a DNG based process but don't understand it.
Use the Adobe DNG Converter (free download) to convert to DNG, and then
open the DNG in Irfanview.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com> >> Stay informed about: How to read RAW files from Panasonic DMC-FZ8 in Irfanview .. |
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