What price for framed prints?

>
> Moraine image: I'd love to see this in print- process? Gelatin or
> inkjet? Off the cuff, %450 sounds right.
>
> Hummers: Assuming a framing cost of ca. $50, I'd guess $ !50, maybe $250
> the pair.
>
> For me, the stem in the background stuck out, and now I can't get it out
> of my mind. I wonder if cloning it out might be an improvement? (It's
> the only one that's clearly OoF. Nothing wrong with OoF itself, but
> somehow, for me, it catches too much attention, due to where it lies in
> the photo.)
>
> Very nice stuff, Eric.
>

Thanks John. I have found a place online, Reed Photo, that will print
these images with a lightjet onto Fuji Crystal Archive paper. The
Moraine shot is a stitch of four portrait shots taken with a 5D so I
have plenty of pixels to work with.

The price on framing the hummingbirds will be around $50. The print
itself will probably cost about $20 more (just a guess, I haven't priced
the 11x14s, the 16x24 will run around $70 for the print, about $200
total cost framed. I was thinking somewhere around $400, but had
absolute no reference prices to use since I haven't bought or sold
prints before.

Thanks,

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
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Eric Miller wrote:
>>
>> Moraine image: I'd love to see this in print- process? Gelatin or
>> inkjet? Off the cuff, %450 sounds right.
>>
>> Hummers: Assuming a framing cost of ca. $50, I'd guess $ !50, maybe
>> $250 the pair.
>>
>> For me, the stem in the background stuck out, and now I can't get it
>> out of my mind. I wonder if cloning it out might be an improvement?
>> (It's the only one that's clearly OoF. Nothing wrong with OoF itself,
>> but somehow, for me, it catches too much attention, due to where it
>> lies in the photo.)
>>
>> Very nice stuff, Eric.
>>
>
> Thanks John. I have found a place online, Reed Photo, that will print
> these images with a lightjet onto Fuji Crystal Archive paper. The
> Moraine shot is a stitch of four portrait shots taken with a 5D so I
> have plenty of pixels to work with.
>
> The price on framing the hummingbirds will be around $50. The print
> itself will probably cost about $20 more (just a guess, I haven't priced
> the 11x14s, the 16x24 will run around $70 for the print, about $200
> total cost framed. I was thinking somewhere around $400, but had
> absolute no reference prices to use since I haven't bought or sold
> prints before.

I don't sell thataway, although maybe someday. I try to see all local
street fairs in the BayArea that I can, and my suggestions are based on
that. Though I was thinking the hummers were going to be 8 x 10, so
printing costs would be nil on that size. Darn, too bad you aren't
nearby. I could print the 16 x 24s on my new Epson 3800.

--
John McWilliams
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

In article <R4mnj.59945$Mu4.56267@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
Eric Miller <millereric_nospam_.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
>
> The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
> $125 framing cost):
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadian_rocki
> es_2007%2F2106573-9b19d126f0709a94.jpg>
>
>
> The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
> frames:
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3061.jpg
> >
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3242.jpg
> >
>
>
> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
> what price to charge. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com

Best to start out high and lower prices as needed. Most Photographers
under sell there work and this complicates the pricing for everyone.
Standard business practice use to be 100 percent mark up from expenses.
But many successful art selling photographers will tell you more like
700% is easily obtainable. It just depends on the buyer. I've sold lots
of 80 dollar 16x20's that I've printed and matted, a few 250.00 16x20's
framed under glass and an occasional 16x20 at 450.00 framed under glass.
I would rather sell 10 at 80.00 than one at 450.00 although two at
450.00 be nicer.

I think you could go higher for the humming birds than John's 50.00 I'd
say they are certainly worth 150.00 each at 11x14 matted and framed.
The B&W I think although a nice picture, its too generic for 450.00 It
is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
good at using a Large format camera printed at that size. There will be
competition doing so with better imagery. Of course it all depends on
the buyer as stated.

--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

On Jan 28, 9:58 am, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp... DeleteThis @bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
>
> The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
> $125 framing cost):
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadi...>
>
> The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
> frames:
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_...>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_...>
>
> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
> what price to charge. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com


Eric,
Nice images, I wouldn't print the Moraine picture on Fuji Archive, if
you want a chemical print, try to find a company that is working with
a b&w paper, much better tonality. I stopped using a local printer and
bought a wide format inkjet, just for the reason I really don't like
b&w images on color paper. Inkjet will give a more archival life
expectancy anyway.
Just my opinion,
Tom
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

____ wrote:
> In article <R4mnj.59945$Mu4.56267@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
> Eric Miller <millereric_nospam_ DeleteThis @bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
>> sale at an upcoming art show.
>>
>> The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
>> $125 framing cost):
>>
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadian_rocki
>> es_2007%2F2106573-9b19d126f0709a94.jpg>
>>
>>
>> The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
>> frames:
>>
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3061.jpg
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3242.jpg
>>
>> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
>> what price to charge. Any ideas?

>
> Best to start out high and lower prices as needed. Most Photographers
> under sell there work and this complicates the pricing for everyone.
> Standard business practice use to be 100 percent mark up from expenses.
> But many successful art selling photographers will tell you more like
> 700% is easily obtainable. It just depends on the buyer. I've sold lots
> of 80 dollar 16x20's that I've printed and matted, a few 250.00 16x20's
> framed under glass and an occasional 16x20 at 450.00 framed under glass.
> I would rather sell 10 at 80.00 than one at 450.00 although two at
> 450.00 be nicer.
>
> I think you could go higher for the humming birds than John's 50.00 I'd
> say they are certainly worth 150.00 each at 11x14 matted and framed.

It looks like I hit the ! exclamation point ! instead of a one. It may
show up differently or blank depending on your set up, but we're in the
same pew with $150- I was thinking 8 x 10 matted and framed, though.


--
John McWilliams
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tomm42 wrote:
> On Jan 28, 9:58 am, Eric Miller <millereric_nosp....RemoveThis@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
>> sale at an upcoming art show.
>>
>> The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
>> $125 framing cost):
>>
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadi...>
>>
>> The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
>> frames:
>>
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_...>
>> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_...>
>>
>> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
>> what price to charge. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Eric Millerwww.dyesscreek.com
>
>
> Eric,
> Nice images, I wouldn't print the Moraine picture on Fuji Archive, if
> you want a chemical print, try to find a company that is working with
> a b&w paper, much better tonality. I stopped using a local printer and
> bought a wide format inkjet, just for the reason I really don't like
> b&w images on color paper. Inkjet will give a more archival life
> expectancy anyway.
> Just my opinion,
> Tom

Thanks, I'll probably give it a try with a local printer.

Eric Miller
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

> It
> is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
> good at using a Large format camera printed at that size. There will be
> competition doing so with better imagery. Of course it all depends on
> the buyer as stated.
>

Maybe so, but that image is a stitch of 4 portrait oriented shots from a
Canon 5D so there really are a lot of pixels to work with.

Eric Miller
www.dyesscreek.com
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

In article <soNnj.75642$rc2.56404@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
Eric Miller <millereric_nospam_.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > It
> > is also probably not going to be as sharp as someone who is using and is
> > good at using a Large format camera printed at that size. There will be
> > competition doing so with better imagery. Of course it all depends on
> > the buyer as stated.
> >
>
> Maybe so, but that image is a stitch of 4 portrait oriented shots from a
> Canon 5D so there really are a lot of pixels to work with.
>
> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com

If its stitched it may be sharper. It just lacks a dramatic sky and
maybe some foreground interest.....then it would be a more salable shot.

--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

Eric Miller wrote:
> I don't generally sell photos, but I will be offering three prints for
> sale at an upcoming art show.
>
> The following image will be 16x25 inches and custom framed (for about
> $125 framing cost):
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/galleries/index.php?display=travel%2Fcanadian_rockies_2007%2F2106573-9b19d126f0709a94.jpg>
>
>
>
> The following two images will be printed at 11x14 and framed in wooden
> frames:
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3061.jpg>
>
> <http://www.dyesscreek.com/birds/index.php?display=hummingbirds%2F_MG_3242.jpg>
>
>
>
> The prints will likely be lightjet prints. I am trying to figure out
> what price to charge. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Eric Miller
> www.dyesscreek.com
I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
Allen
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In article <479fd246$0$30717$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Allen <allen.RemoveThis@nothere.net> wrote:

> I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
> for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
> Allen

Maybe you should just pay someone else it will be cheaper, and less work
understanding that complicated camera

--
Reality is a picture perfected and never looking back.
 >> Stay informed about: What price for framed prints? 

____ wrote:
> In article <479fd246$0$30717$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> Allen <allen DeleteThis @nothere.net> wrote:
>
>> I can't give you help on your question, but your pictures make me lust
>> for a 5D (and the talent to get pictures like these.
>> Allen
>
> Maybe you should just pay someone else it will be cheaper, and less work
> understanding that complicated camera
>
Maybe you should not prejudge a person's level of intelligence; don't
assume that everyone is as incompetent as you. I would be happy to match
my IQ, technical skills and photographic experience with you, but that
wouldn't be possible, considering that I won't be seeing any more of
your idiotic posts.
Allen
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