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eyalnevo

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:05 am
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I have more than 20 old albums with hundreds of degregating photos that
I want to save for future generations. Most of these photos are more
than 30 years old - either B/W or off spectrum color. I want to find a
reliable service that would unmount these photos, scan them in
reprintable resolution (preferrably even fix the colors), and re-mount
them into new albums. Does anyone know of such a service in the US,
preferrably in NYC?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:23 pm
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<eyalnevo DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have more than 20 old albums with hundreds of degregating photos that
> I want to save for future generations. Most of these photos are more
> than 30 years old - either B/W or off spectrum color. I want to find a
> reliable service that would unmount these photos, scan them in
> reprintable resolution (preferrably even fix the colors), and re-mount
> them into new albums. Does anyone know of such a service in the US,
> preferrably in NYC?

Your better off doing it yourself then relying on someone else! I don't
recommend sending out any photos - especially old family photos! How would
you feel if someone screwed up or lost one of those old family photos - you
wouldn't like it very much!!

Your better off scanning the images yourself, then find a digital imaging
professional either online or in your area. This way you have the originals
in your possession without the possibility of loss or destruction.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:42 pm
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On 7 Jul 2006 08:05:58 -0700, "eyalnevo@gmail.com"
<eyalnevo DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>I have more than 20 old albums with hundreds of degregating photos that
>I want to save for future generations. Most of these photos are more
>than 30 years old - either B/W or off spectrum color. I want to find a
>reliable service that would unmount these photos, scan them in
>reprintable resolution (preferrably even fix the colors), and re-mount
>them into new albums. Does anyone know of such a service in the US,
>preferrably in NYC?

Are you prepared to pay the price? I'm going to guess if you do find a
place to do everything you want to be done it will cost you much more
than a buck per photo. More $ if you want colors tuned.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:29 pm
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"David Sommers" <dsommers.DeleteThis@ACM.org> wrote:

> I bought a copy stand with lights similar to this and
>used my Olympus E-10 in RAW mode to capture the images.

Thanks so much for that idea and info!!

I've actually thought abt your method as well (copy
stand) but wasn't sure how well it worked.

Have you used the copy stand for other stuff as well?
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David Sommers

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:00 am
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This was my reply to a similar question a week or so ago . . . . . . . .

I used a slightly different method because many of the photos I was trying
to preserve were over 70 years-old and in disintegrating albums that would
be difficult to scan. I bought a copy stand with lights similar to this and
used my Olympus E-10 in RAW mode to capture the images.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=detail...=&sku=5

I then used these Kodak Photoshop-compatible plug-ins to process the
pictures. The Kodak ROC (Restore Original Colors) tool was most helpful.
These tools for the PC are the same Kodak ICE technology used in some
scanners.

http://www.asf.com/

Here is a 79 year-old wedding photo of Sarah and Max:

http://www.fototime.com/38E67588B106DEC/standard.jpg

And here is one of my attempts to restore it:

http://www.fototime.com/55110294C19C8F8/standard.jpg

Bye.

<eyalnevo DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have more than 20 old albums with hundreds of degregating photos that
> I want to save for future generations. Most of these photos are more
> than 30 years old - either B/W or off spectrum color. I want to find a
> reliable service that would unmount these photos, scan them in
> reprintable resolution (preferrably even fix the colors), and re-mount
> them into new albums. Does anyone know of such a service in the US,
> preferrably in NYC?
>
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carolyn

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:02 am
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i am not in NYC but i can do all you are asking. someone already
suggested a light stand with copy lights and using your camera to copy
your images. great idea. i teached retouching and restoration here in
austin, texas at austin community college and have suggested many times
that your digital camera is an excellent scanner. it acutally works
much better than a scanner with any photo that has texture to it but i
suggest shooting those with indirect lighting. like under a porch or
awning. just make sure you have no shadows or reflections. a nice
cloudy day works wonders. (i heard you have had a few lately).after you
photograph your originals, store them in a nice archival box (
www.lightimpressionsdirect.com ) has some wonderful products. then
start working on your digital images in photoshop or your editing
software, or send them out. a digital file can be sent over and over
without degredation or loss of quality unless you downsize it. i
suggest using a high quality digital camera that allows you to shoot in
camera raw. also, if your angle is slightly off while shooting,
photoshop has "lens correcting" capabilities. you can send off (or ftp
right through the computer) to anyone you want to help with your
project because you have your originals and the digital version safe
with you. . i am working with the katrina victims and my students are
restoring a ton of their photos right now and everything is going
through via internet. just for a little ease of mind, the mail is much
more reliable these days and i receive photos from around the world to
restore. i have never lost a photo and have never damaged one. we do
send our precious cameras through the mail when they need fixed:)

good luck to you and your wonderful project.

carolyn

www.carolyncoffey.com
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David Sommers

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:03 pm
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No. So far I've only used it for my preservation project. With over a dozen
old albums, it turned into a lot of shots - about 300. My next project for
my copy stand is smaller. There are some old pictures, many mounted in
frames, from my Mother's estate that I want to reproduce and distribute
around my family. Sure beats arguing over who gets what.

Bye.

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> "David Sommers" <dsommers DeleteThis @ACM.org> wrote:
>
>> I bought a copy stand with lights similar to this and
>>used my Olympus E-10 in RAW mode to capture the images.
>
> Thanks so much for that idea and info!!
>
> I've actually thought abt your method as well (copy
> stand) but wasn't sure how well it worked.
>
> Have you used the copy stand for other stuff as well?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:03 pm
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"carolyn" <ccoffey2.TakeThisOut@austin.rr.com> wrote:

> store them in a nice archival box (
>www.lightimpressionsdirect.com ) has some wonderful products. t

I agree but these photos are a mish mash of sizes.....
big, small, VERY small.... ha!

advice on bets way to store such a variety of sizes? I
mean they wont all fit in one box will they?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:02 am
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carolyn wrote:
> i am not in NYC but i can do all you are asking. someone already
> suggested a light stand with copy lights and using your camera to copy
> your images. great idea. i teached retouching and restoration here in
> austin, texas at austin community college and have suggested many times
> that your digital camera is an excellent scanner. it acutally works
> much better than a scanner with any photo that has texture to it but i
> suggest shooting those with indirect lighting. like under a porch or
> awning. just make sure you have no shadows or reflections. a nice
> cloudy day works wonders. (i heard you have had a few lately).after you
> photograph your originals, store them in a nice archival box (
> www.lightimpressionsdirect.com ) has some wonderful products. then
> start working on your digital images in photoshop or your editing
> software, or send them out. a digital file can be sent over and over
> without degredation or loss of quality unless you downsize it. i
> suggest using a high quality digital camera that allows you to shoot in
> camera raw. also, if your angle is slightly off while shooting,
> photoshop has "lens correcting" capabilities. you can send off (or ftp
> right through the computer) to anyone you want to help with your
> project because you have your originals and the digital version safe
> with you. . i am working with the katrina victims and my students are
> restoring a ton of their photos right now and everything is going
> through via internet. just for a little ease of mind, the mail is much
> more reliable these days and i receive photos from around the world to
> restore. i have never lost a photo and have never damaged one. we do
> send our precious cameras through the mail when they need fixed:)
>
> good luck to you and your wonderful project.
>
> carolyn
>
> www.carolyncoffey.com
>
Carolyn,
I hope you don't teach punctuation, and capitalization, or grammar.
You don't do anything for the image of Texas with such posts.
Good luck with those Katrina restorations.
Please take note of the 'shift' key as it makes your postings easier to
read.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:02 am
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In article <UcFrg.24874$uy3.24124@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
"David Sommers" <dsommers RemoveThis @ACM.org> wrote:

> This was my reply to a similar question a week or so ago . . . . . . . .
>
> I used a slightly different method because many of the photos I was trying
> to preserve were over 70 years-old and in disintegrating albums that would
> be difficult to scan. I bought a copy stand with lights similar to this and
> used my Olympus E-10 in RAW mode to capture the images.
>
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku
> =53763&is=REG&addedTroughType=categoryNavigation

Looks pretty expensive for what it is, especially as the lights were an
extra $80 (and out of stock).
Keep a look out for old enlargers - the stand is ideal for photographing
albums etc.

If the photographs are deteriorating badly then the scans or photos will
be the only thing left shortly. Storing the originals in between sheets
of Japanese hand-made acid-free paper. Or you could clean them up and
then seal them in a laminator. Obviously the album is contributing to
the deterioration.

>
> I then used these Kodak Photoshop-compatible plug-ins to process the
> pictures. The Kodak ROC (Restore Original Colors) tool was most helpful.
> These tools for the PC are the same Kodak ICE technology used in some
> scanners.
>
> http://www.asf.com/
>
> Here is a 79 year-old wedding photo of Sarah and Max:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/38E67588B106DEC/standard.jpg
>
> And here is one of my attempts to restore it:
>
> http://www.fototime.com/55110294C19C8F8/standard.jpg
>
> Bye.
>
> <eyalnevo RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1152284758.017881.266460@k73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I have more than 20 old albums with hundreds of degregating photos that
> > I want to save for future generations. Most of these photos are more
> > than 30 years old - either B/W or off spectrum color. I want to find a
> > reliable service that would unmount these photos, scan them in
> > reprintable resolution (preferrably even fix the colors), and re-mount
> > them into new albums. Does anyone know of such a service in the US,
> > preferrably in NYC?
> >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:29 am
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Stewy wrote:
>
> Looks pretty expensive for what it is, especially as the lights were an
> extra $80 (and out of stock).
> Keep a look out for old enlargers - the stand is ideal for photographing
> albums etc.
>

A couple of desk lamps with bright bulbs and a tripod clamped
horizontally to a shelf above the work surface works just fine and you
probably already have everything you need.

I've done quite a bit of copying of both photos and pages of text for
OCR that way.

Mark
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:53 pm
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Carolyn, you're not related to Gary Coffey are you?


On 7/8/06 10:02 AM, in article
1152370958.754566.102970 DeleteThis @m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com, "carolyn"
<ccoffey2 DeleteThis @austin.rr.com> wrote:

>
> i am not in NYC but i can do all you are asking. someone already
> suggested a light stand with copy lights and using your camera to copy
> your images. great idea. i teached retouching and restoration here in
> austin, texas at austin community college and have suggested many times
> that your digital camera is an excellent scanner. it acutally works
> much better than a scanner with any photo that has texture to it but i
> suggest shooting those with indirect lighting. like under a porch or
> awning. just make sure you have no shadows or reflections. a nice
> cloudy day works wonders. (i heard you have had a few lately).after you
> photograph your originals, store them in a nice archival box (
> www.lightimpressionsdirect.com ) has some wonderful products. then
> start working on your digital images in photoshop or your editing
> software, or send them out. a digital file can be sent over and over
> without degredation or loss of quality unless you downsize it. i
> suggest using a high quality digital camera that allows you to shoot in
> camera raw. also, if your angle is slightly off while shooting,
> photoshop has "lens correcting" capabilities. you can send off (or ftp
> right through the computer) to anyone you want to help with your
> project because you have your originals and the digital version safe
> with you. . i am working with the katrina victims and my students are
> restoring a ton of their photos right now and everything is going
> through via internet. just for a little ease of mind, the mail is much
> more reliable these days and i receive photos from around the world to
> restore. i have never lost a photo and have never damaged one. we do
> send our precious cameras through the mail when they need fixed:)
>
> good luck to you and your wonderful project.
>
> carolyn
>
> www.carolyncoffey.com
>


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:58 pm
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Ron Hunter wrote:
>
> carolyn wrote:
> > i am not in NYC but i can do all you are asking. someone already
> > suggested a light stand with copy lights and using your camera to copy
> > your images. great idea. i teached retouching and restoration here in
> > austin, texas at austin community college and have suggested many times
> > that your digital camera is an excellent scanner.

<edited, for brevity>

> > good luck to you and your wonderful project.
> >
> > carolyn
> >
> > www.carolyncoffey.com
> >
> Carolyn,
> I hope you don't teach punctuation, and capitalization, or grammar.
> You don't do anything for the image of Texas with such posts.
> Good luck with those Katrina restorations.
> Please take note of the 'shift' key as it makes your postings easier to
> read.


Hello, Ron:

Carolyn is quite innovative, despite your negative remarks. Did the fact
she contributed a new word ("teached") to the English vocabulary, escape
your attention, somehow? <g>


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:20 am
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> Carolyn,
> I hope you don't teach punctuation, and capitalization, or grammar.
> You don't do anything for the image of Texas with such posts.
> Good luck with those Katrina restorations.
> Please take note of the 'shift' key as it makes your postings easier to
> read.

heaven forbid i have a life! and don't spend my days on a computer
putting people down! how rude you are!!!
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carolyn

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:28 am
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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer
in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is
taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a
total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae
the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a
wlohe. Amzanig huh?

i guess i just don't take the time to re-read my messages. i just
figure people would appreciate the little bit of information that i
find time to give. maybe not. maybe you guys just need a little more
attention!
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