More Panasonic P&S perfection

agro D-Mac wrote:
> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most people
> will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be taken by
> nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with such an
> outfit.
> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
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> Douglas
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Nice shot of a classically beautiful subject.
Macro photography is where P/S cameras excel.
Almost any P/S can get 1:1 Macro shots straight away.
Most DSLRs cannot get a 1:1 macro without a separate macro lens or some
other auxiliary equipment.
Admittedly, with the Macro lens, a DSLR will probably outperform "most"
P/S cameras but it is a hassle, an added expense and does expose the
DSLR sensor to potentially troublesome dust particles.
Let the flames begin...
Bob Williams
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mark.thoma....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
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> G'day Howard - new to Usenet, I see!! Excellent first post.


Sorry "Mark", but this "Howard" is a resident troll who nameshifts.


> But that's just my opinion, and I'm sure Douglas will...

It is quite amazing how you just happen to be posting from Melborne
and constantly posting nice things about Douglas so frequently.

But that's just my opinion that it would seem that you also already
know what a "sockpuppet" is, and how to troll with them. In the old
days, this was called a "shill" when such seemingly third parties were
used to promote a business

Considering how unethical it is to use shills, it unfortunately casts
a negative light on "Photography by Douglas St James". Perhaps its
reflected in his business and he's struggling financially? Any idea
what Douglas's real day job is?

Of course, with the arrogance that he has in print on his own website,
it is hardly surprising that his attitude wouldn't scare away some
potential customers.

And the promotional shot in question ... if one examines it closely
(hint: left side) ... it has particular topical irony.



-hh
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On Nov 14, 3:13 am, "agro D-Mac" <o... RemoveThis @the.group> wrote:
> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most people
> will ever need.

Was that the combo used to take this masterpiece?

http://www.pbase.com/helens/image/87826789
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agro D-Mac wrote:
> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most people
> will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be taken by
> nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with such an
> outfit.
> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm

No such site.
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agro D-Mac wrote:
> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most
> people will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be
> taken by nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation
> with such an outfit.
> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
>
> Douglas

I share your enthuiasm for Panasonic "bridge" cameras, having an FZ20 that I
regularly take with me in preference to my Nikon D70s with it's various
lenses.

Dennis.
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:50:49 +1100, Pete D wrote:

> "agro D-Mac" <only RemoveThis @the.group> wrote in message
> news:w6y_i.12372$CN4.12193@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
>> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most
>> people will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be
>> taken by nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with
>> such an outfit.
>> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
>>
>> Douglas
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> Sorry but you don't seem to exist!
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> Server not found
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> Firefox can't find the server at www.douglasjames.com.au.
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Works for me. It's your ISP's DNS that's not updating.


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If you don't defend your rights... You end up without any!
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:50:49 +1100, "Pete D" <no.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote:

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>"agro D-Mac" <only.TakeThisOut@the.group> wrote in message
>news:w6y_i.12372$CN4.12193@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
>> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most
>> people will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be
>> taken by nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with
>> such an outfit.
>> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
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>> Douglas
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>Sorry but you don't seem to exist!
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>Server not found
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>Firefox can't find the server at www.douglasjames.com.au.
>

Sounds like your DNS (domain name server) is working about as well as any DSLR
at the moment. But unlike a DSLR, a DNS will be restored to full usefulness
eventually.

Page loaded up just fine here.

Nice use of a flash diffuser.
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On Nov 14, 7:34 pm, HowardEdwards <he1716....TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
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> Sounds like your DNS (domain name server) is working about as well as any DSLR
> at the moment. But unlike a DSLR, a DNS will be restored to full usefulness
> eventually.
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> Page loaded up just fine here.
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> Nice use of a flash diffuser.

G'day Howard - new to Usenet, I see!! Excellent first post.

(grin)

As for the photo, macros leave me cold unless very, very good. Roses
images leave me colder, unless... And use of flash, even when
(largely ineffectively) diffused by a highly professional paper bag,
for such images ...?

...well, you get the picture.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm sure Douglas will sell this one
for the same sort of profit levels he has received for his other
recently auctioned (in New York and London, doncha know) images.

Jolly well done, I say!!
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On Nov 15, 4:38 am, taylor_n_grant <spamstop....DeleteThis@nospam.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:21:22 -0800, Bob Williams <mytbobnos....DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
> >agro D-Mac wrote:
> >> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
> >> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most people
> >> will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be taken by
> >> nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with such an
> >> outfit.
> >>http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
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> >> Douglas
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> >Nice shot of a classically beautiful subject.
> >Macro photography is where P/S cameras excel.
> >Almost any P/S can get 1:1 Macro shots straight away.
> >Most DSLRs cannot get a 1:1 macro without a separate macro lens or some
> >other auxiliary equipment.
> >Admittedly, with the Macro lens, a DSLR will probably outperform "most"
> > P/S cameras
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> Quite to the contrary. Due to the larger sensor size and useless shallow DOF it
> causes, they require: the use of f/stops so small that it creates blurring due
> to diffraction effects (totally negating any potential benefit to that expensive
> macro-glass), slow shutters speeds requiring non-moving subjects, and high ISOs
> that are beyond the capabilities of even the larger sensor. Always requiring use
> of flash or other artificial light changes to the subject, rendering the final
> photograph aesthetically unappealing and/or useless for any documentation
> purposes.
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> This is why I eventually rejected the whole idea of ever needing or struggling
> with a DSLR for my preferred photography. It doesn't matter how good of a lens
> you put on that larger sensor DSLR to get the DOF required, they are worthless
> for any meaningful macro-photography.

> "Due to the larger sensor size and useless shallow DOF"

The ability to create shallow DOF is for many, one of the most
attractive features of the DSLR. For me, the steroidal DOF of P&S is
OK for happy snapping, but a real PITA when trying to create an more
artistic image.

The thing thing is, most - if not all of us DSLR owners have a compact
digital as well and we understand that there are times when the
advantage pendulum swings from system to system.

Cheers

Rusty
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:21:22 -0800, Bob Williams <mytbobnospam.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote:

>agro D-Mac wrote:
>> The Panasonic FZ50 alone is an excellent camera. Couple it to a Metz
>> flashgun and you really have just about as good a combination as most people
>> will ever need. Total cost? Under $700 Images like this can be taken by
>> nearly anyone with a little patience and experimentation with such an
>> outfit.
>> http://www.douglasjames.com.au/more-panasonic.htm
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>>
>Nice shot of a classically beautiful subject.
>Macro photography is where P/S cameras excel.
>Almost any P/S can get 1:1 Macro shots straight away.
>Most DSLRs cannot get a 1:1 macro without a separate macro lens or some
>other auxiliary equipment.
>Admittedly, with the Macro lens, a DSLR will probably outperform "most"
> P/S cameras


Quite to the contrary. Due to the larger sensor size and useless shallow DOF it
causes, they require: the use of f/stops so small that it creates blurring due
to diffraction effects (totally negating any potential benefit to that expensive
macro-glass), slow shutters speeds requiring non-moving subjects, and high ISOs
that are beyond the capabilities of even the larger sensor. Always requiring use
of flash or other artificial light changes to the subject, rendering the final
photograph aesthetically unappealing and/or useless for any documentation
purposes.

This is why I eventually rejected the whole idea of ever needing or struggling
with a DSLR for my preferred photography. It doesn't matter how good of a lens
you put on that larger sensor DSLR to get the DOF required, they are worthless
for any meaningful macro-photography.
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On Nov 14, 6:03 pm, randy hayworth <nos....TakeThisOut@noaddress.org> wrote:
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> That's why I just use tele-macro or tele-converter setups to attain the very
> same DOF as available on a DSLR when needed.

LOL! What a funny troll!

Can't wait to see your pics taken at f/1.2 like this one:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/83251452
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On Nov 14, 8:25 pm, The Vintage Monk <themonkeythem... RemoveThis @the.monks.com>
wrote:
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> He could do a Dogless and just disappear from the thread when confronted
> with truth and facts.
>

You mean like D-Mac did when I asked him about his big London
auction? Listen ..... I hear crickets!
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In rec.photo.equipment.35mm taylor_n_grant <spamstopper DeleteThis @nospam.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:21:22 -0800, Bob Williams <mytbobnospam DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote:
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> Quite to the contrary. Due to the larger sensor size and useless
> shallow DOF it causes, they require: the use of f/stops so small
> it creates blurring due to diffraction effects

This may sound intuitive to some people, but it is wrong.

Large format macro work does not give less resolution
for a given depth of field. (This assumes that the
area being photographed is the same and the two prints
being compared are enlarged to the same size.)

Very good macro work can be done with a 4x5 camera, and
apart from the longer exposure times, can be at least
as good as that from a small format camera.

Peter.
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