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Since: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:38 am
Post subject: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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| I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
to put on my walls.
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Since: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:53 pm
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<ephedralover.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
>
There are a lot of different opinions on this and it really just comes down
to what will satisfy you. The "lower limit" for printing at good (another
subjective term) quality is about 180 pixels per inch. That number, I think,
comes from the resolution needed to get a decent print from a printer with a
120 line screen (120 lines of resolution per inch). I.e., your input should
be 1.5 times output resolution to get a good result. This number is probably
outmoded for most modern high resolution inkjet printers, but its not a bad
lower limit to use.
I have printed what I consider to be acceptable 13x19 prints from my 6.0
megapixel 10D. Those prints were made without any cropping of the original
image and would probably have been perfectly acceptable for hanging on a
wall. So for your camera, I would think that an 11x14 would come out at good
quality (not very good or excellent, but non-photographers won't find fault
with it). 16x20 will probably look pretty good too as long and you aren't
examining the print very closely. It will help to start with a well-lit,
properly exposed, noise-free image.
I was in Sears before the holidays and noticed that their portrait studio
was selling very large posters using 5.0 megapixel images made in thier
studio. On close examination, pixelation was noticeable, but those kinds of
prints aren't really made for close examination and they looked pretty good
from normal viewing distances.
Eric Miller >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Apr 12, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:11 pm
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Since: Apr 11, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:57 pm
Post subject: Re: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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What I would do if I was you is to take one photo into Jessops and ask them
to do two prints at 11x14 and 16x20.
Then put them on the wall where you want them and see if you think that the
quality is acceptable. Obviously, as they are on a wall, you are usually
standing further away from the photo than you would be with a 6X4.
<ephedralover.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
> >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm
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<ephedralover.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> je napisal v sporocilo
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>I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
>
maybe (besides what jimmy said) if result would not satisfy you you could
increase number of pixels in graphic program (like paint shop pro-->resize
and you select, say bicubic resample and set to 200 %) - those recalculate
new pixels and in so corrected you don't see those square pixels at big
magnification, so in some way you can "increase" number of pixels. Od course
this is usable if you plan to make some images and period. It's not
convenient to do this day after day. >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Jul 06, 2006 Posts: 196
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm
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In article <461fc85e$1_1@x-privat.org>,
"Protoncek" <protoHAHAHncek1.RemoveThis@bonbon.net> wrote:
> <ephedralover.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> je napisal v sporocilo
> news:1176485927.034124.89630@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com ...
> >I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> > to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> > taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> > distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> > to put on my walls.
> >
>
> maybe (besides what jimmy said) if result would not satisfy you you could
> increase number of pixels in graphic program (like paint shop pro-->resize
> and you select, say bicubic resample and set to 200 %) - those recalculate
> new pixels and in so corrected you don't see those square pixels at big
> magnification, so in some way you can "increase" number of pixels. Od course
> this is usable if you plan to make some images and period. It's not
> convenient to do this day after day.
Scott Kelby describes about the same thing in his PhotoShop Elements
books. I do not know if it is illegal to quote him here, but you can
look under "sizeing" in the index and then go to "Poster sized prints".
Of course this assumes you are using PSE.
--
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross."
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Since: Jan 12, 2007 Posts: 205
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm
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<ephedralover DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
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I assume you are not going to stand 10" away and inspect the image for
pixilation, etc.
It should be fine provided you don't need to crop half the picture away.
Why not try it?
BTW you will need a 20Mp camera to get twice as good.
10Mp will be 1.4 times as good.
8Mp will barely be noticeable. >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Oct 07, 2005 Posts: 442
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 13 Apr 2007 10:38:47 -0700, ephedralover RemoveThis @hotmail.com <ephedralover RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
I've made a couple of 16x20s from my 5 MP FZ5. They look fine as long as
you're viewing them from a reasonable distance (say 5 or so feet), but
don't really stand up too well to close inspection.
So, I'd say it depends on your standards of "good enough", and whether
people are going to be right up next to the prints.
One cheap way to see for yourself is to take that 5 MP image, crop it in
half both in length and width (ie crop out 75% of the area), and get
that printed at 5x7 and 8x10. Use the same printing company that you're
considering for the big prints. Hang the small print where you're
planning on putting the large one, and see if pixelation/etc. are
obvious enough to bother you. If the small ones look OK to your eye,
large prints using the full image should be fine.
-dms >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Mar 24, 2007 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:48 pm
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ephedralover.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote on 4/13/2007 :
> I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
I have 16" x 20" prints from my old Olympus 2020 camera (2 mp). They
look great. You won't see the pixels because whoever you send the file
to, to have it printed, will upsample to fill in the pixels. I think
you'll be very happy with the results from a 5 mp camera.
ed >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Sep 08, 2006 Posts: 155
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:00 am
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On Apr 13, 12:38 pm, ephedralo....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
Distortion is not a function of the chip, it is strictly a function of
the lens. Now, if you mean resolution rather than distortion, then the
answer depends on the subject matter. I have made several 11 x 14
from our five mp cameras with no problems. If the subject has a lot of
fine detail, the 16 x 20 may be a bit problematic. However, many
subjects, such as landscapes of natural areas either do not have that
much detail, or the detail is not essential to the subject. If you do
architectural subjects, however, a 5 mp is a bit weak for 16 x 20. >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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Since: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 511
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:43 am
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<ephedralover.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176485927.034124.89630@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
> to put on my walls.
>
All megapixels are not created equal. A larger sensor with the same number
of pixels may produce a remarkably better image than a smaller one. Noise,
or overly aggressive noise reduction, may enter into the equation. So your
smaller sensored Canon may not give as good quality as a 5mp Oly E-1, for
instance, nor as good as a 6mp Nikon D70.
That being said, what is good for one photographer may be totally
unacceptable to another. I have images from an old Canon D30 (3mp) at 8x10
that some observers think are quite good, but I think are awful. I would
not consider doing 16x20s with anything less than an 8mp DSLR, but that's
just me.
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Skip Middleton
www.shadowcatcherimagery.com
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Since: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:59 pm
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"Ockham's Razor" <Mencken.RemoveThis@pdx.net> je napisal v sporočilo
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> In article <461fc85e$1_1@x-privat.org>,
> "Protoncek" <protoHAHAHncek1.RemoveThis@bonbon.net> wrote:
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>> <ephedralover.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> je napisal v sporocilo
>> news:1176485927.034124.89630@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com ...
>> >I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
>> > to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
>> > taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
>> > distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
>> > to put on my walls.
>> >
>>
>> maybe (besides what jimmy said) if result would not satisfy you you could
>> increase number of pixels in graphic program (like paint shop
>> pro-->resize
>> and you select, say bicubic resample and set to 200 %) - those
>> recalculate
>> new pixels and in so corrected you don't see those square pixels at big
>> magnification, so in some way you can "increase" number of pixels. Od
>> course
>> this is usable if you plan to make some images and period. It's not
>> convenient to do this day after day.
>
> Scott Kelby describes about the same thing in his PhotoShop Elements
> books. I do not know if it is illegal to quote him here, but you can
> look under "sizeing" in the index and then go to "Poster sized prints".
>
> Of course this assumes you are using PSE.
well, it's pretty much the same no matter which program you use... >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:59 pm
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"Don Stauffer in Minnesota" <stauffer DeleteThis @usfamily.net> wrote in message
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> On Apr 13, 12:38 pm, ephedralo... DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>> I have a Canon SD450 5.0mp camera and wanted to know if I will be able
>> to have some 11x14 or 16x20 prints made from some pictures I plan on
>> taking. Is 5mp enough to get these size enlargements without too much
>> distortion? I am not looking for studio quality prints, just pictures
>> to put on my walls.
>
> Distortion is not a function of the chip, it is strictly a function of
> the lens. Now, if you mean resolution rather than distortion, then the
> answer depends on the subject matter. I have made several 11 x 14
> from our five mp cameras with no problems. If the subject has a lot of
> fine detail, the 16 x 20 may be a bit problematic. However, many
> subjects, such as landscapes of natural areas either do not have that
> much detail, or the detail is not essential to the subject. If you do
> architectural subjects, however, a 5 mp is a bit weak for 16 x 20.
>
If the subject allows, stitching will solve your problem.
DP >> Stay informed about: Is 5.0 megapixels enough? |
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