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64hundred

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:46 pm
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I'm a design student and I've been with my old trusty Epson 1280 for
years now and it's served me well... until it died last year. Warranty
has been long gone and I don't think sending it away for repairs would
be ideal for me (it's kinda too beat-up now and I'm better off getting
a new printer). Nonetheless, I think it's time for an upgrade (or not,
more on that later...) and I've narrowed it down to three: the Canon
I9900, Epson R1800, or a new Epson 1280... again (yep, it's served me
well afterall). I've been google'ing around looking for all sorts of
opinions and reviews but none seem to address how they handle two
particular things I'm looking for: type quality and how prints look on
matte paper. The bulk of the discussion I come across deals with what's
better at glossy prints (where the R1800 seems to excel) and what's
better at retaining color over decades upon decades (R1800 again).
While for purely typographic treatments I always use my laser printer,
there are times when I'll be printing text along with graphics from
Adobe Indesign/Illustrator; the way the 1280 rendered text was always
acceptable for me on Epson matte paper heavyweight. So... to cut to the
chase, should I just get a 1280 again or is the extra 200 dollars or so
for an R1800/I9900 more than worth it? If so, should I go for the R1800
or the I9900?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:11 pm
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64hundred RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> I'm a design student and I've been with my old trusty Epson 1280 for
> years now and it's served me well... until it died last year. Warranty
> has been long gone and I don't think sending it away for repairs would
> be ideal for me (it's kinda too beat-up now and I'm better off getting
> a new printer). Nonetheless, I think it's time for an upgrade (or not,
> more on that later...) and I've narrowed it down to three: the Canon
> I9900, Epson R1800, or a new Epson 1280... again (yep, it's served me
> well afterall). I've been google'ing around looking for all sorts of
> opinions and reviews but none seem to address how they handle two
> particular things I'm looking for: type quality and how prints look on
> matte paper. The bulk of the discussion I come across deals with what's
> better at glossy prints (where the R1800 seems to excel) and what's
> better at retaining color over decades upon decades (R1800 again).
> While for purely typographic treatments I always use my laser printer,
> there are times when I'll be printing text along with graphics from
> Adobe Indesign/Illustrator; the way the 1280 rendered text was always
> acceptable for me on Epson matte paper heavyweight. So... to cut to the
> chase, should I just get a 1280 again or is the extra 200 dollars or so
> for an R1800/I9900 more than worth it? If so, should I go for the R1800
> or the I9900?

Neither go for the Epson 2400 and get some good matte paper. Epson
heavy weight matte is an OK paper but fine art stocks are better.

Tom

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Bill Hilton

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:25 pm
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> (looking at) the Canon I9900, Epson R1800, or a new Epson
>1280... I'm looking for: type quality and how prints look on matte paper.

All of them will do OK with type at 300 ppi or greater ... but for
matte prints you should skip the dye ink 1280 and i9900 and look at the
Epson pigment printers like the 1800 or 2200 or 2400. These have two
black inks that are swappable, 'photo black' for glossy papers and
'matte black' for matte and fine art papers, and with the 'matte black'
ink you get a richer, deeper black on those papers than you can achieve
with the 1280 class dye printers with a single flavor of black (I have
a 1280, which is fine for glossy, and also a 2200, which is better for
matte).

As a bonus the pigment inks have a projected print life about 4x longer
than the dye inks of the 1280/i9900 type printers.

Bill
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:52 pm
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Bill Hilton wrote:
> > (looking at) the Canon I9900, Epson R1800, or a new Epson
> >1280... I'm looking for: type quality and how prints look on matte paper.
>
> All of them will do OK with type at 300 ppi or greater ... but for
> matte prints you should skip the dye ink 1280 and i9900 and look at the
> Epson pigment printers like the 1800 or 2200 or 2400. These have two
> black inks that are swappable, 'photo black' for glossy papers and
> 'matte black' for matte and fine art papers, and with the 'matte black'
> ink you get a richer, deeper black on those papers than you can achieve
> with the 1280 class dye printers with a single flavor of black (I have
> a 1280, which is fine for glossy, and also a 2200, which is better for
> matte).
>
> As a bonus the pigment inks have a projected print life about 4x longer
> than the dye inks of the 1280/i9900 type printers.
>
> Bill

Wow, thanks! Very informative indeed. Smile
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:18 pm
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tomm101 wrote:
> 64hundred.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I'm a design student and I've been with my old trusty Epson 1280 for
>>years now and it's served me well... until it died last year. Warranty
>>has been long gone and I don't think sending it away for repairs would
>>be ideal for me (it's kinda too beat-up now and I'm better off getting
>>a new printer). Nonetheless, I think it's time for an upgrade (or not,
>>more on that later...) and I've narrowed it down to three: the Canon
>>I9900, Epson R1800, or a new Epson 1280... again (yep, it's served me
>>well afterall). I've been google'ing around looking for all sorts of
>>opinions and reviews but none seem to address how they handle two
>>particular things I'm looking for: type quality and how prints look on
>>matte paper. The bulk of the discussion I come across deals with what's
>>better at glossy prints (where the R1800 seems to excel) and what's
>>better at retaining color over decades upon decades (R1800 again).
>>While for purely typographic treatments I always use my laser printer,
>>there are times when I'll be printing text along with graphics from
>>Adobe Indesign/Illustrator; the way the 1280 rendered text was always
>>acceptable for me on Epson matte paper heavyweight. So... to cut to the
>>chase, should I just get a 1280 again or is the extra 200 dollars or so
>>for an R1800/I9900 more than worth it? If so, should I go for the R1800
>>or the I9900?
>
>
> Neither go for the Epson 2400 and get some good matte paper. Epson
> heavy weight matte is an OK paper but fine art stocks are better.
>
> Tom
>
I would agree if the OP specified B&W phhoto printing as a priority...
The R1800 is better on matte than the 2100/2200 printer, which was
"state of the art" until the 2400 with K3 (= "3 blacks") came out. The
R2400 is more expensive, uses more ink, and requires a cartridge swap
between matte and photo black cartridge.
Epson Archival Matte is a much better paper for these printers than
Matte Heavyweight. Matte Heavyweight is optimised for dye printers.

With the pigment printers, the OP should be aware that although prints
on matte paper are more water resistant than dye ink on the same paper,
the prints are still easily marred - an accidental wipe with a
fingernail or edge of paper will "polish" the surface. Prints on
low-sheen photo papers are much more durable.
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