Oh the grain of it

On Sep 10, 12:02 pm, Pat <gro....DeleteThis@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
> daylight shots.
>
> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&g...


Probably camera noise from a digital camera set at very high ISO.
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UC wrote:
> On Sep 10, 12:02 pm, Pat <gro....DeleteThis@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>
>>I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
>>their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
>>the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
>>daylight shots.
>>
>>http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&g...
>
>
>
> Probably camera noise from a digital camera set at very high ISO.
>

Clearly the photographer is submitting his work to the paper via FAX.
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Pat wrote:
> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are
> even daylight shots.

Texture screen (the digital equivalent of it), not grain.

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It might be to stop the photos being downloaded and reused.


"Pat" <groups.TakeThisOut@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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>I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
> daylight shots.
>
> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&ga...ry_page
>
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Pat wrote:
> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
> daylight shots.
>
> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&ga...ry_page
>
It is absent in the well-lit outdoor soccer shots and most noticeable in
the lower light stuff; this suggests it is high ISO camera noise (or
different cameras were used)...

Thumbnails should be noise free due to downsizing/averaging - maybe they
were simple pixel resizes without 'smart' interpolation/averaging?

Guy
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nt.
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Pat <groups.TakeThisOut@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
> daylight shots.

> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&ga...ry_page

And it's not as if you couldn't do something against the
noise. Taking
http://www.oleantimesherald.com/content/gallery/gallery_3/album_7/mids..._photo4
as a very quick, no extra work, example:
http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/3459216/1/194408656
Why, oh why do people insist on watermarks and noise?

(Conspiracy: Maybe because the noise hides AF errors?)

-Wolfgang
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:02:07 -0700, Pat
<groups RemoveThis @artisticphotography.us> wrote:

>I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
>their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
>the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
>daylight shots.
>
>http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&gallery_page=0&album_page=0&albumid=7

Newspapers aren't all they're cracked up to be these days. I doubt
they spend much money on photographers and I suspect their hiring
criteria isn't based on technological expertise as much as political
bent and length of tongue.
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On Sep 10, 12:02 pm, Pat <gro... RemoveThis @artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
> daylight shots.
>
> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&g...

It could simply be like our local weekly: no one there knows how to
use a camera; they use the cheapest they can find; they won't pay for
a class for anyone there (which would be pointless anyway, with their
gear).
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"Charlie Self" <charliediy DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 10, 12:02 pm, Pat <gro... DeleteThis @artisticphotography.us> wrote:
>> I was looking at our local newspaper. Here's the link to some of
>> their sports photos. They must be intentionally putting grain into
>> the thumbnails (and maybe the larger pictures). Some of them are even
>> daylight shots.
>>
>> http://www.oleantimesherald.com/shared-content/gallery/?galleryid=3&g...
>
> It could simply be like our local weekly: no one there knows how to
> use a camera; they use the cheapest they can find; they won't pay for
> a class for anyone there (which would be pointless anyway, with their
> gear).


Ever made a thumbnail for a web page?
They *need* sharpening, or they will turn out mushy and dull.

The paper in question just hit the "sharpen" button once too often - but who
cares? A thumbnail is not meant to be a work of technical brilliance.

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Jeff R.
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