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Chris Malcolm

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:31 pm
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David J Taylor <david-taylor.TakeThisOut@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
> frederick wrote:
> []
>> Samsung - you forgot Samsung. There are bound to be some people who
>> support Samsung,

> I don't know about the US - but in the UK Samsung is current running an
> advert about their cameras having millions of pixels, but only "thousands"
> of colours. Makes it a brand to avoid in my view - I want far more
> colours than that!

> (Noted that each pixel may only be quantised to 10-14 bits, so perhaps
> they are being /too/ honest!).

Why don't you hear people in music shops asking for an instrument with
more notes?

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:31 pm
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On 25 Jun 2008 08:38:19 GMT, Chris Malcolm wrote:

>> (Noted that each pixel may only be quantised to 10-14 bits, so perhaps
>> they are being /too/ honest!).
>
> Why don't you hear people in music shops asking for an instrument with
> more notes?

They will, they will. But right now they're too busy looking for
amps having volume controls that go to eleven!

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Neil Harrington

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:56 pm
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"Chris H" <chris RemoveThis @phaedsys.org> wrote in message
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>
> I just use a Nikon because my friend whose cameras I tried also uses Nikon
> because when he bought his cameras Nikon were just ahead that year.
>
> Also, of course, because God uses Nikon

True.


> and Canon users are all going to rot in hell. Smile

Not so sure about that. Canon users are perhaps too boring to be of interest
to the devil.

Purgatory, maybe.

Neil
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Tony B

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:05 pm
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Chris H wrote:

> I have has some very good Suzuki Motorbikes (admittedly 30 years ago)
>
> I agree about Disney.

it's the motorbikes that got them on my list Sad

T
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Neil Harrington

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(Msg. 35) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:57 pm
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"Chris Malcolm" <cam.DeleteThis@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> user.DeleteThis@domain.invalid wrote:

>
>> A fifth possibility is that they are paid by Nikon to do this.
>
> Why should Nikon bother, when there are plenty who have paid
> themselves to do it? They buy a very expensive camera without checking
> out all the options on the advice of a salesman or friend,

Yeah, right. God forbid anyone should ever buy a camera based on his own
experience and research, instead of "the advice of a salesman or friend."

Of course everyone should buy a camera only from some guy behind a counter
who says, "You wanna filter with that to protect the lens?"

<guffaw!>

Neil
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Chris H

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(Msg. 36) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:11 pm
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In message <4vudnaw2ae7Nw__VnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d RemoveThis @posted.plusnet>, Tony B
<tony RemoveThis @thebramahs.plus.com> writes
>Chris H wrote:
>
>> I have has some very good Suzuki Motorbikes (admittedly 30 years ago)
>> I agree about Disney.
>
>it's the motorbikes that got them on my list Sad

I had a TT250 and a GT380
Both were good bikes.

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Charles

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(Msg. 37) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:58 pm
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Dumbest post/reply I have ever read. Plonk!
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:55 pm
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"Charles" <charlesschuler.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Dumbest post/reply I have ever read. Plonk!

It was Chevy v Ford when I was a testosterone-pumped adolescent. It was
dumb then and is even dumber now.

It's not the camera; it's the jerk trying to use it.

The forum should foster unbiased information, help for all users, and
sharing of knowledge. Bias stinks.
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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 39) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:31 pm
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Chris Malcolm wrote:
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> Why don't you hear people in music shops asking for an instrument with
> more notes?

You can tune and tweak many instruments to get as many notes as you want!
And then there is the string section, and trombones....

David
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Giuseppe:G:

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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:08 pm
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Jake wrote:
> Is it just me, or

TROLL!

Very Nice one, I have to admit Wink
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:07 pm
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"Jake" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.com> wrote in message
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> Is it just me, or are there a lot of stupid posts here supporting Nikon?


Just had a talk with a Canon Rep today. He admitted to secretly preferring
Nikon.

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Chris Malcolm

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(Msg. 42) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:18 am
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David J Taylor <david-taylor DeleteThis @blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
> Chris Malcolm wrote:
> []
>> Why don't you hear people in music shops asking for an instrument with
>> more notes?

> You can tune and tweak many instruments to get as many notes as you want!
> And then there is the string section, and trombones....

That's true, but the more you make the less you can tell the
difference. There's a limit to how many different notes the best human
ear can hear, quite apart from the restricted range of our own
personal ears.

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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 43) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:40 am
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Chris Malcolm wrote:
> David J Taylor
> <david-taylor.DeleteThis@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
>> Chris Malcolm wrote:
>> []
>>> Why don't you hear people in music shops asking for an instrument
>>> with more notes?
>
>> You can tune and tweak many instruments to get as many notes as you
>> want! And then there is the string section, and trombones....
>
> That's true, but the more you make the less you can tell the
> difference. There's a limit to how many different notes the best human
> ear can hear, quite apart from the restricted range of our own
> personal ears.

Were that the same was true with eyes! I believe that I have been able to
see quantisation even in 24-bit displays ("16 million colours") if the
colours are carefully chosen to be adjacent (G=50, B=51 etc.) and the
image chosen to maximise quantisation visibility (slow changes across the
display, "circular greyscale"). Hence my comment that "thousands of
colours" would stop me purchasing a camera.

The trouble is that, with using LCD displays (as opposed to CRT) you never
know where you are with colour (it could even be 6-bits per channel, and
goodness knows what calibration), and I also watch some digital TV
(FreeView) and you have no idea how the bit-rate reduction there may have
damaged the original.

Cheers,
David
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:10 pm
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nospam wrote:
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> In article <h6d364dn44f327uti81uf77i2b539jh0ru.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, ASAAR
> <caught.TakeThisOut@22.com> wrote:
>
> > Many dolts also support Canon, Fuji, Kodak,
> > Minolta, Olympus, Panasonic, Pentax and Sony cameras.
>
> don't forget sigma. Smile


Hello, nospam:

Why? Sigma is quite forgettable, if nothing else. Wink


Cordially,
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:10 pm
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Ray Fischer wrote:
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> Neil Harrington <not.RemoveThis@home.today> wrote:

<edited for brevity>

> >5. Nikons are, by any reasonable measure or standard, simply the best.
>
> LOL! Insecure much, are you?
>
> >There are only two kinds of camera users: Nikon owners, and people who wish
> >they were Nikon owners. That second kind often get defensive, bitter and
> >cranky.
>
> You're acting very defensive about your brand.
>
> Why is that?


Hello, Ray:

No, the real question is: Why are >you< being so hostile? I believe it
should be readily apparent that, Neil Harrington's above comments are
laced with sarcasm.


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
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