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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 136) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:00 am
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John Turco wrote:
[]
>> John, I don't see IBM/DEC and Intel as competing in the same space.
>
> Hello, David:
>
> Well, Intel did its part to hasten DEC's demise, according to this
> Wikipedia article:
>
> Wikipedia - Digital Equipment Corporation/Closing DEC's business
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation#Closing_DEC.27s_business>
>
> "In May 1997, DEC sued Intel for allegedly infringing on its Alpha
> patents
> in designing the Pentium chips. As part of a settlement, DEC's chip
> business was sold to Intel. This included DEC's StrongARM
> implementation of the ARM computer architecture, which Intel sold as
> the XScale processors commonly
> used in Pocket PCs."

Yes, rather like lawyers are the only people to benefit, although Intel
did here. Perhaps DEC would have been better keeping quiet!


> Kodak is a very "diverse" operation, actually. Not nearly as much as
> Panasonic (or even Canon, perhaps), I grant you, but far more so,
> than Nikon ever was (or could ever hope to be).
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.TakeThisOut@concentric.net>

Raising the interesting question of whether you would expect a product
from a "specialist" company like Nikon to be "better"? <G>

Cheers,
David

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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 137) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:07 am
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John Turco wrote:
[]
> Hello, David:
>
> Yes, I've been doing some "Googling" on this subject, lately. It seems
> the 64-bit versions of XP and Vista are seriously lacking in driver
> support, which rules them out, for my purposes.
>
> Also, some people maintain that XP-32 can utilize 4GB of memory, but,
> will only "show" 3.5GB of it.
[]
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net>

I have 3GB RAM in each of my main PCs, and it feels quite comfortable
today, to be honest. Once 64-bit applications become more widespread I
suppose I will be looking for 8GB or 16GB PCs. The higher end of the 4GB
is taken by the address space for the video card(s).

For the two unusual items of hardware I have, there are 64-bit drivers
available, but both items are fairly recent (a satellite TV receiver and a
"virtual radar"). Vista-64 installed on the AMD hardware without
problems, and looked just about the same as Vista-32. But it's likely
that manufacturers of older printers or scanners may not want to spend
money providing new drivers. Caveat Emptor.

Cheers,
David

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Daniel Silevitch

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(Msg. 138) Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:11 pm
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On 07 Mar 2008 06:13:21 GMT, Ray Fischer <rfischer.DeleteThis@sonic.net> wrote:
> John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> wrote:
>>David J Taylor wrote:
>
>>> A year ago I would have agreed. Today, I see few problems with Vista, and
>>> would no longer recommend people to start with XP. I'm not saying you
>>> shouldn't - simply that it wouldn't be my default recommendation.
>>
>>Hello, David:
>>
>>Food for thought, at least. Anyhow, which OS (XP or Vista) would be more
>>comfortable with 4GB (or above) of RAM, do you think?
>
> I note that Apple is selling Macs with up to 32GB or RAM. Of course
> they charge $9000+ for that much memory, but the OS copes without any
> issues.

If you really do need a Mac with that much memory, you're much better
off buying one in the base configuration, and then getting the
additional RAM from some third-party vendor and putting it in yourself.
Apple is notorious for overcharging on RAM upgrades.

> Gee, you could run six 4GB Windows virtual machines all at the same
> time and still have 4GB of RAM for your Mac applications.

Or dual-boot into Vista/64 when the mood strikes.

-dms
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John Turco

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(Msg. 139) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:09 pm
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Ray Fischer wrote:
>
> John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> wrote:
> >David J Taylor wrote:
>
> >> A year ago I would have agreed. Today, I see few problems with Vista, and
> >> would no longer recommend people to start with XP. I'm not saying you
> >> shouldn't - simply that it wouldn't be my default recommendation.
> >
> >Hello, David:
> >
> >Food for thought, at least. Anyhow, which OS (XP or Vista) would be more
> >comfortable with 4GB (or above) of RAM, do you think?
>
> I note that Apple is selling Macs with up to 32GB or RAM. Of course
> they charge $9000+ for that much memory, but the OS copes without any
> issues.
>
> Gee, you could run six 4GB Windows virtual machines all at the same
> time and still have 4GB of RAM for your Mac applications.


Hello, Ray:

Sorry...don't want no Mac, no way, no how. <g>


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net>
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(Msg. 140) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:09 pm
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David J Taylor wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:
> []
> >> John, I don't see IBM/DEC and Intel as competing in the same space.
> >
> > Hello, David:
> >
> > Well, Intel did its part to hasten DEC's demise, according to this
> > Wikipedia article:
> >
> > Wikipedia - Digital Equipment Corporation/Closing DEC's business
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Equipment_Corporation#Closing_DEC.27s_business>
> >
> > "In May 1997, DEC sued Intel for allegedly infringing on its Alpha
> > patents in designing the Pentium chips. As part of a settlement,
> > DEC's chip business was sold to Intel. This included DEC's StrongARM
> > implementation of the ARM computer architecture, which Intel sold as
> > the XScale processors commonly used in Pocket PCs."
>
> Yes, rather like lawyers are the only people to benefit, although Intel
> did here. Perhaps DEC would have been better keeping quiet!

Hello, David:

Apparently, DEC's departure was a gradual, painful process, which took place
between 1992-1998. Intel merely delivered the "coup de grāce," one might say.

> > Kodak is a very "diverse" operation, actually. Not nearly as much as
> > Panasonic (or even Canon, perhaps), I grant you, but far more so,
> > than Nikon ever was (or could ever hope to be).
> >
>
> Raising the interesting question of whether you would expect a product
> from a "specialist" company like Nikon to be "better"? <G>
>
> Cheers,
> David

Oh, that's true; diversification isn't always a good thing. Even the renowned
General Electric conglomeration went too far, in that direction, once upon a
time; it decided to sell its computer division (to Olivetti), in the 1960's,
for instance.


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur DeleteThis @concentric.net>
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(Msg. 141) Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:09 pm
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David J Taylor wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:
> []
> > Hello, David:
> >
> > Yes, I've been doing some "Googling" on this subject, lately. It seems
> > the 64-bit versions of XP and Vista are seriously lacking in driver
> > support, which rules them out, for my purposes.
> >
> > Also, some people maintain that XP-32 can utilize 4GB of memory, but,
> > will only "show" 3.5GB of it.
>
>
> I have 3GB RAM in each of my main PCs, and it feels quite comfortable
> today, to be honest. Once 64-bit applications become more widespread I
> suppose I will be looking for 8GB or 16GB PCs. The higher end of the 4GB
> is taken by the address space for the video card(s).
>
> For the two unusual items of hardware I have, there are 64-bit drivers
> available, but both items are fairly recent (a satellite TV receiver and a
> "virtual radar"). Vista-64 installed on the AMD hardware without
> problems, and looked just about the same as Vista-32. But it's likely
> that manufacturers of older printers or scanners may not want to spend
> money providing new drivers. Caveat Emptor.
>
> Cheers,
> David


Hello, David:

"8GB or 16GB PCs," eh? You're far more of a "power user" than I am, I see! Wink


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net>
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