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DeanB

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:56 am
Post subject: Software to find a digital photo?
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Hello all,

I am about to write a program that will allow a user to scan (or
otherwise provide) a picture, and then search through a directory
structure of archived digital photos, and to attempt to find the
picture in its original form. Imagine a photographer who prints pics
for customers, and keeps all the images on a backup drive in case the
customer wants another copy. Customer later requests the image (or
more prints), and photographer has to go in and (from the approximate
date when the photos were taken) find the original image. Been there?

Does anyone know of software available that will do this? Basically
that can recognize a photo that is at least reasonably close to an
original?

I'm assuming the customer-provided image is altered in some way -
different resolution, possibly cropped, possibly scanned from a print,
possibly altered in brightness or contrast or color, etc. It should be
possible to write recognition software that will search based on the
layout of colors and patterns of light and dark, etc, and find the
closest matches.

Any comments welcomed. If there is software out there already then I
might not attempt this.

Thanks!

Dean

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frederick marco

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:55 am
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DeanB

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:39 am
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On Oct 8, 2:52 am, frederick marco <nob... DeleteThis @spamstop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:55:30 -0000, DeanB <deanbrow... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Any comments welcomed. If there is software out there already then I
> >might not attempt this.
>
> >Thanks!
>
> Sorry to burst your hopes, but most of the decent image cataloging programs
> already do this. Some are just small stand-alone applications that search all
> hard-drives for similar images. (duplicate image finders) These routines are
> also included in specialty applications for doing large, single-image mosaics
> from thousands of smaller images. Most digital forensic programs designed to
> support religiously-ideology law-enforcement even detects photos based on the
> amount of flesh-tones apparent in a photo collection. These already exist as an
> alert system in all large chain-stores that print your photos for you. Too many
> flesh-tones on your memory cards triggers the operator to flag your account for
> suspected pornography. If you're architecture includes a lot of beiges, be sure
> to wipe your hard-drives clean before they get hold of your hard-drives. These
> program being written by people with an overt interest for flesh to find others
> similarly afflicted. It's common human psyche to blame others for what they
> themselves suffer from. One day they may all grow beyond their immature
> fascination with the percentage of skin showing and devote their time to things
> much more useful to humanity. But I digress.
>
> Yes, there are dozens of programs that already do this.

Hi Frederick - do you have any examples you could name that do this
specific task?
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frederick marco

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:08 am
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 03:39:14 -0000, DeanB <deanbrown3d RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Oct 8, 2:52 am, frederick marco <nob... RemoveThis @spamstop.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:55:30 -0000, DeanB <deanbrow... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Any comments welcomed. If there is software out there already then I
>> >might not attempt this.
>>
>> >Thanks!
>>
>> Sorry to burst your hopes, but most of the decent image cataloging programs
>> already do this. Some are just small stand-alone applications that search all
>> hard-drives for similar images. (duplicate image finders) These routines are
>> also included in specialty applications for doing large, single-image mosaics
>> from thousands of smaller images. Most digital forensic programs designed to
>> support religiously-ideology law-enforcement even detects photos based on the
>> amount of flesh-tones apparent in a photo collection. These already exist as an
>> alert system in all large chain-stores that print your photos for you. Too many
>> flesh-tones on your memory cards triggers the operator to flag your account for
>> suspected pornography. If you're architecture includes a lot of beiges, be sure
>> to wipe your hard-drives clean before they get hold of your hard-drives. These
>> program being written by people with an overt interest for flesh to find others
>> similarly afflicted. It's common human psyche to blame others for what they
>> themselves suffer from. One day they may all grow beyond their immature
>> fascination with the percentage of skin showing and devote their time to things
>> much more useful to humanity. But I digress.
>>
>> Yes, there are dozens of programs that already do this.
>
>Hi Frederick - do you have any examples you could name that do this
>specific task?

Well, it's built into or the main purpose of programs like:

ImageDupeless (just for finding similar images)

ThumbsPlus (extensive image cataloging, including similarity searches)

Dup Detector (a phototile/mosaic utility, search by similarity, freeware)

AccessData Forensic Toolkit (an advanced utility aimed at corporations and
governments, is there a difference these days? which also includes image search
algorithms for government officials and CEOs to find their free porn to beat off
to)

These are just the ones I've tested or played with in the past.

There's more. Just do any search at most shareware and freeware sites to get a
more comprehensive list of them.

You may be behind the times though. Now even cameras are being designed to only
shoot an image depending on if it can detect a real or fake smile in the scene.
Smile (<--- was that a real or a fake one?)
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Shawn H.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:58 am
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In article <1191819330.915700.222280.RemoveThis@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
DeanB <deanbrown3d.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am about to write a program that will allow a user to scan (or
> otherwise provide) a picture, and then search through a directory
> structure of archived digital photos, and to attempt to find the
> picture in its original form. Imagine a photographer who prints pics
> for customers, and keeps all the images on a backup drive in case the
> customer wants another copy. Customer later requests the image (or
> more prints), and photographer has to go in and (from the approximate
> date when the photos were taken) find the original image. Been there?
>
> Does anyone know of software available that will do this? Basically
> that can recognize a photo that is at least reasonably close to an
> original?
>
> I'm assuming the customer-provided image is altered in some way -
> different resolution, possibly cropped, possibly scanned from a print,
> possibly altered in brightness or contrast or color, etc. It should be
> possible to write recognition software that will search based on the
> layout of colors and patterns of light and dark, etc, and find the
> closest matches.
>
> Any comments welcomed. If there is software out there already then I
> might not attempt this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dean

I am an amateur photographer, so my needs are modest in this area. I
simply keep each set of photos in a separate folder. When I need to find
an old photo, I use the built-in Spotlight search feature in Mac OS X.

I have years of photos sitting on an external hard drive and its fairly
easy for me to locate those photos that interest me. If I was a
professional photographer, I would definitely use something like
Extensis Portfolio.
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