scanning colour slides

In article <NGhkh.526319$5R2.237872@pd7urf3no>,
gA <realty DeleteThis @ualberta.net> wrote:

> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
> flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
> adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
> - gA

You need a flatbed scanner with a transparency adapter.
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gA wrote:
> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
> flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
> adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
> - gA

What do you intend to do with the scanned images.
Like most processes, the cost of the duplication process increases
exponentially as the quality of the result.
If you don't have a whole lot of slides (say 100-300) you can send them
off and have them scanned pretty inexpensively.
See: http://www.discountdigitalart.com/slides.html
Scanning a lot of slides is a real PIA and a real time consumer.
Bob Williams
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In article <nogo-BFBC18.20190026122006 DeleteThis @news.isp.giganews.com>,
Gregory Blank <nogo DeleteThis @g-photo.com> wrote:

> In article <NGhkh.526319$5R2.237872@pd7urf3no>,
> gA <realty DeleteThis @ualberta.net> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
> > flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
> > adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
> > - gA
>
> You need a flatbed scanner with a transparency adapter.

If he values the content of the slides he is scanning he will use a
dedicated slide/film strip scanner. There is a Nikon for about 600.00
that beats every flat bed scanner out there. For higher level work
there are even more capable scanners.

And, use Vue Scan software.

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carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis
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"gA" <realty.RemoveThis@ualberta.net> wrote:
> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a flatbed
> scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency adapter. Any
> help appreciated. Thanks.

It's possible, but the quality is not great. Dedicated film scanners are
much better.

I forget the model numbers, but for web images and prints up to 5x7, the
current low-end Epson 4800 ppi model should do fairly well for well under
US$200 (I don't know the exact price).

If you are serious about image quality and want to make 8x10 or larger
prints, the Nikon dedicated 35mm film scanners are very good.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
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"gA" <realty.TakeThisOut@ualberta.net> wrote in message
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> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a flatbed
> scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency adapter. Any
> help appreciated. Thanks.
> - gA

Not really. Film scanners pull out much more information from film than
flatbed scanners can. Scan a slide on both, then compare the results.
There will be no contest--a film scanner will give much better results.
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"gA" <realty.DeleteThis@ualberta.net> wrote in message
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> Thank you for your quick reply, Jonesy. I should have asked "what is the
> best and cheapest way to convert slides to digital". I saw your device and
> I am impressed by the quality of the result. Is there any improvement that
> can be made to this procedure?
> Thanks, gA
>


PrimeFilm PF3600 Pro3 Scanner. About $350 on Amazon. Digital ICE3.
Multi-function (both slides and negs). I am unaware of anything cheaper,
and the scanner produces very good results. 3600 x 3600 optical resolution,
compared with Kodak PhotoCD of 3072 x 2048. DMAX of 3.6 versus Kodak
PhotoCD of 2.2.

There are better scanners, but not at that price point.
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"jeremy" <jeremy RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "gA" <realty RemoveThis @ualberta.net> wrote in message
> news:NGhkh.526319$5R2.237872@pd7urf3no...
> > Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
flatbed
> > scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency adapter. Any
> > help appreciated. Thanks.
> > - gA
>
> Not really. Film scanners pull out much more information from film than
> flatbed scanners can. Scan a slide on both, then compare the results.
> There will be no contest--a film scanner will give much better results.
>
>

Silly further question maybe,but,I have noticed in my old slides that many
of them are not 100% flat in the frame. Does that matter with, resp. flatbed
and dedicated slide scanners?

Gerrit
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I am not ready to dismiss the flatbed scanner yet.
yes, Nikon has the popular vote to be one of the best if not the best.
I would like to compare some sample gallery of 40 years old slides scanned
with an Nikon and Epson perfection 4490.
That would confirm that the dedicated scanner is the best tool for the job
or it may shown some interesting results for the Epson flatbed scanner?

"Ockham's Razor" <Mencken.RemoveThis@pdx.net> wrote in message
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> In article <nogo-BFBC18.20190026122006.RemoveThis@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> Gregory Blank <nogo.RemoveThis@g-photo.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <NGhkh.526319$5R2.237872@pd7urf3no>,
>> gA <realty.RemoveThis@ualberta.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
>> > flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
>> > adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
>> > - gA
>>
>> You need a flatbed scanner with a transparency adapter.
>
> If he values the content of the slides he is scanning he will use a
> dedicated slide/film strip scanner. There is a Nikon for about 600.00
> that beats every flat bed scanner out there. For higher level work
> there are even more capable scanners.
>
> And, use Vue Scan software.
>
> --
> "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
> carrying a cross."
> Sinclair Lewis
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:47:40 GMT, gA wrote:
> Thank you for your quick reply, Jonesy. I should have asked "what
> is the best and cheapest way to convert slides to digital".

> I saw
> your device and I am impressed by the quality of the result.

Point of order: You did not see _my_ device. That URL covered the
original work of someone else. I merely reproduced the "prior art".
But, my device does not deviate much from what yoy see at that URL.
So, FWIW, the results are reproducible.

> Is there any improvement that can be made to this procedure?

I believe the inside of the tube should be painted flat black.
You wouldn't think that *cardboard* would present a reflection problem,
but it does. Or, at least I saw it in my implementation.

GL with your project.
Jonesy
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On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:50:21 GMT, gA wrote:
> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
> flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
> adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.

I suppose it depends on what 'quality' you want.
I've had some success with inverting a slide view table and placing it
over the slide(s) on the scanner. This was for images that were to be
"web site material" -- i.e., not for Photo Finish Work, nor for web
Photo Gallery purpose.

For better results I've made my own slide adapter for one of my digital
cameras. But, that's wasn't what you asked about. Disirregardless,
here's the ref:
http://users.iafrica.com/m/mc/mcollett/brsd/index.htm

HNY
Jonesy
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Thank you for your quick reply, Jonesy. I should have asked "what
is the best and cheapest way to convert slides to digital". I saw
your device and I am impressed by the quality of the result. Is
there any improvement that can be made to this procedure?
Thanks, gA

Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:50:21 GMT, gA wrote:
>> Is it possible to scan colour slides into a digital format, with a
>> flatbed scanner? I have a Umax Astra 4000U without a transparency
>> adapter. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
>
> I suppose it depends on what 'quality' you want.
> I've had some success with inverting a slide view table and placing it
> over the slide(s) on the scanner. This was for images that were to be
> "web site material" -- i.e., not for Photo Finish Work, nor for web
> Photo Gallery purpose.
>
> For better results I've made my own slide adapter for one of my digital
> cameras. But, that's wasn't what you asked about. Disirregardless,
> here's the ref:
> http://users.iafrica.com/m/mc/mcollett/brsd/index.htm
>
> HNY
> Jonesy
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<marierdj.RemoveThis@nb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> It looks that the Nikon 8000 is superior to the Epson 4890.
> Too bad I just bought an Epson 4490.

Not at all. The 4490 should be more than you need for web and smaller
prints. You may even be happy with 8x10 prints. And you can learn about
scanning without spending gobs of money.

> Nikon.ca are showing no Nikon 8000 but instead they have a 9000 with a
> mrsp of $2599.95 CAD before taxes.

Sorry. Nikon makes two scanner lines: one for up to 24x36 mm slides, and one
for up to 56x83mm slides. The 8000 and 9000 are the big ones. I have the
8000, the 9000 is the newer model.

But if you only have 35mm slides, you don't need the 9000. You only need the
5000 or the V.

> They have the 5000 at $1339.95CAD and the V ED at $739.95 CAD.
> In order to have a comparable match produced by the Nikon 8000 I would
> have to purchase the 9000.
> Or maybe the V ED at $739.95 CAD can perform the same as the 9000 which I
> have some doubt?

Yes. The V is a good scanner. The 9000 is only expensive because it handles
much larger film.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
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David J. Littleboy wrote:
> <marierdj RemoveThis @nb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> It looks that the Nikon 8000 is superior to the Epson 4890.
>> Too bad I just bought an Epson 4490.
>
> Not at all. The 4490 should be more than you need for web and smaller
> prints. You may even be happy with 8x10 prints. And you can learn
> about scanning without spending gobs of money.
>
>> Nikon.ca are showing no Nikon 8000 but instead they have a 9000 with
>> a mrsp of $2599.95 CAD before taxes.
>
> Sorry. Nikon makes two scanner lines: one for up to 24x36 mm slides,
> and one for up to 56x83mm slides. The 8000 and 9000 are the big ones.
> I have the 8000, the 9000 is the newer model.
>
> But if you only have 35mm slides, you don't need the 9000. You only
> need the 5000 or the V.
>
>> They have the 5000 at $1339.95CAD and the V ED at $739.95 CAD.
>> In order to have a comparable match produced by the Nikon 8000 I
>> would have to purchase the 9000.
>> Or maybe the V ED at $739.95 CAD can perform the same as the 9000
>> which I have some doubt?
>
> Yes. The V is a good scanner. The 9000 is only expensive because it
> handles much larger film.
>
> David J. Littleboy
> Tokyo, Japan

Plustek's 7200 scanner is cheap and does a great job. The SilverFast SE
software alone is worth the price of the scanner, and with a maximum dpi of
7200, the scans are superb. I use mine at 300dpi for 1024 by 768 viewing on
my PC. They are as good as the originals, and even Nikon can's improve on
that. For 10 by 8 prints I simply use Photoshop CS2 to put the final touches
to the file.

Google for Plustek and look at their range.

Dennis.
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