Do other cameras have built-in feature similar to "Color a..

RockyZ wrote:
> On 30 May 2007 20:21:28 -0700, aniramca.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I notice that Canon G7, as well as a few other Canon compact digital
>> models has this feature, which can be set before a photo is taken.
>> With color accent, you can choose one color only to be present in the
>> image, while the other colors will be in B&W. Does Nikon compact
>> (P5000, etc), or Lumix (FZ7, FZ50, etc) has this feature? Any more
>> expensive DSLR cameras have this feature? perhaps in some Canon DSLR?
>> I believe that you can also create this effect afterwards in a
>> software, but the built-in feature in Canon compact would be much
>> more convenient.
>> Thanks for info.
>
> While it's a fun feature to have (I have a camera with it) for a party for
> people to play with it, or just playing around with it myself when bored, I
> really don't see it as any kind of necessity. "Color Accent" is a gimmick to
> bring attention to a subject when your normal photography and composition skills
> aren't good enough to accomplish that task. No different than photographers that
> have to stoop to effects like zoom-blur or radial-blur or even (groan)
> fog-filters with a clear central area. You might as well just smear some grease
> around the edges of a clear filter to bring attention to your subject if you're
> that desperate to have someone notice your mundane subjects and mediocre
> compositions. I've never used the "Color Accent" in my camera other than to see
> it work a few times. I guess I just can't lower myself to having to result to
> using a cheap gimmick like other "photographers" use. The next thing you know
> they'll be using something as ridiculous as that "LensBaby" toy in conjunction
> with "Color Accent", revealing their total lack of talent even further -- a
> scream of desperation.
>

Harsh but fair.

Besides you can knock it up a lot more effectively in Photoshop.
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On May 30, 11:21 pm, anira....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I notice that Canon G7, as well as a few other Canon compact digital
> models has this feature, which can be set before a photo is taken.
> With color accent, you can choose one color only to be present in the
> image, while the other colors will be in B&W. Does Nikon compact
> (P5000, etc), or Lumix (FZ7, FZ50, etc) has this feature? Any more
> expensive DSLR cameras have this feature? perhaps in some Canon DSLR?
> I believe that you can also create this effect afterwards in a
> software, but the built-in feature in Canon compact would be much
> more convenient.
> Thanks for info.


I always love how people cannot seem to just answer the question being
asked but rather have to berate the OP instead. It's fine to share
your opinion but at least do the person a favour and try to answer the
question.

Most if not all of the new Canon P&S models have this feature (both my
S80 and my SD650 have it). I do not belive the dSLRs do though (I
don't have one - Yet). The XTi for example has picture styles
settings - but they relate more to colour saturation and accuracy, and
do not necessarily allow the function you are looking for.

Now in regards to the comments on the effect's usefulness - if you
like it use it and don't worry about other people's opinions. Now if
you are looking for a better way to get the same effect, then sure
take some advice from people who have done this other ways. I agree
there are probably more effective ways to do the work in something
like Photoshop or Photopaint (as you yourself have mentioned), but
heck - it is much quicker to do in the camera. And if I am not
mistaken (I have not used this feature in a while) the Canon P&S's
will actually save both a "normal" image and the modified - colour
accent image. So really what is the harm - if you like the effect,
great - if you think you could have done better with software after
the fact - go back to the original and do it.

Bates....
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aniramca.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I notice that Canon G7, as well as a few other Canon compact digital
> models has this feature, which can be set before a photo is taken.
> With color accent, you can choose one color only to be present in the
> image, while the other colors will be in B&W. Does Nikon compact
> (P5000, etc), or Lumix (FZ7, FZ50, etc) has this feature? Any more
> expensive DSLR cameras have this feature? perhaps in some Canon DSLR?
> I believe that you can also create this effect afterwards in a
> software, but the built-in feature in Canon compact would be much
> more convenient.

Disagree. The processing and tweaking options
in a computer based package (there are many)
vastly outweigh what the camera can do, and
can be accessed from a much more convenient
user interface (large display, full keyboard, mouse)

BugBear
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"RockyZ" <anyone RemoveThis @spamfree.org> wrote in message
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> On 30 May 2007 20:21:28 -0700, aniramca RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
> "Color Accent" is a gimmick to
> bring attention to a subject when your normal photography and composition
> skills
> aren't good enough to accomplish that task... if you're
> that desperate to have someone notice your mundane subjects and mediocre
> compositions... revealing their total lack of talent even further -- a
> scream of desperation.

So you're saying that people who have little or no talent for photography
shouldn't... what? Enjoy taking pictures? Own a camera at all?

R.
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ROCKYZ !!!! PLEASE tell us were we can view some of your amazing
photographic talent !!!!

Post some pics ( that YOU'VE taken



"RockyZ" <anyone.RemoveThis@spamfree.org> wrote in message
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> On 30 May 2007 20:21:28 -0700, aniramca.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I notice that Canon G7, as well as a few other Canon compact digital
>>models has this feature, which can be set before a photo is taken.
>>With color accent, you can choose one color only to be present in the
>>image, while the other colors will be in B&W. Does Nikon compact
>>(P5000, etc), or Lumix (FZ7, FZ50, etc) has this feature? Any more
>>expensive DSLR cameras have this feature? perhaps in some Canon DSLR?
>>I believe that you can also create this effect afterwards in a
>>software, but the built-in feature in Canon compact would be much
>>more convenient.
>>Thanks for info.
>
> While it's a fun feature to have (I have a camera with it) for a party for
> people to play with it, or just playing around with it myself when bored,
> I
> really don't see it as any kind of necessity. "Color Accent" is a gimmick
> to
> bring attention to a subject when your normal photography and composition
> skills
> aren't good enough to accomplish that task. No different than
> photographers that
> have to stoop to effects like zoom-blur or radial-blur or even (groan)
> fog-filters with a clear central area. You might as well just smear some
> grease
> around the edges of a clear filter to bring attention to your subject if
> you're
> that desperate to have someone notice your mundane subjects and mediocre
> compositions. I've never used the "Color Accent" in my camera other than
> to see
> it work a few times. I guess I just can't lower myself to having to result
> to
> using a cheap gimmick like other "photographers" use. The next thing you
> know
> they'll be using something as ridiculous as that "LensBaby" toy in
> conjunction
> with "Color Accent", revealing their total lack of talent even further --
> a
> scream of desperation.
>
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>
> Harsh but fair.
>
> Besides you can knock it up a lot more effectively in Photoshop.

Yes you could, but the total system to get this result will cost a number of
times the cost of the camera.
Although I do not consider such a feature usefull, there are people with
digital camera's, but without Photoshop or even without a PC.

So for some people these features are usefull, do not compare these features
with products costing a lot more.

ben
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"ben brugman" <ben DeleteThis @niethier.nl> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Harsh but fair.
>>
>> Besides you can knock it up a lot more effectively in Photoshop.
>
> Yes you could, but the total system to get this result will cost a number
> of times the cost of the camera.
> Although I do not consider such a feature usefull, there are people with
> digital camera's, but without Photoshop or even without a PC.
>
> So for some people these features are usefull, do not compare these
> features with products costing a lot more.
>
> ben

There you are then I knew PSP was best
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<aniramca.DeleteThis@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>I notice that Canon G7, as well as a few other Canon compact digital
> models has this feature, which can be set before a photo is taken.
> With color accent, you can choose one color only to be present in the
> image, while the other colors will be in B&W. Does Nikon compact
> (P5000, etc), or Lumix (FZ7, FZ50, etc) has this feature? Any more
> expensive DSLR cameras have this feature? perhaps in some Canon DSLR?
> I believe that you can also create this effect afterwards in a
> software, but the built-in feature in Canon compact would be much
> more convenient.
> Thanks for info.
>
Yes, other manufacturer's cameras also offer rather useless features,
frequently in the "scene mode" menu.
If the G7 permitted to store pictures in raw format, that might allow to
salvage otherwise pretty bad shots in post processing. This "color accent"
option allows to make sure a shot's results are fully useless even when post
processing is applied. Also the options for color to black and white
conversion are limited that way. To take useless, tasteless ugly pictures I
would personally prefer a cheaper model than the G7, but that is perhaps
just my personal taste. My suggestion is to shoot in normal color mode. At
least when using any decent image editing program (including Canon Arc Soft
Studio), post processing on a PC offers much more flexibility to "uglyfy"
your digital photos.
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On Jun 1, 12:28 am, RockyZ <any... RemoveThis @spamfree.org> wrote:
<snip>
> No, I'm saying that people who have little or no talent for photography should
> have their access to any photography equipment taken away from them and be
> imprisoned for life if they ever have the audacity to want to show their
> photography to anyone else.
<snip>

What about the idiots who show no talent for putting their viewpoint
tactfully on usenet? I guess by your reckoning they should have their
connection taken away and all their posts removed from Usenet archives.
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"RockyZ" <anyone RemoveThis @spamfree.org> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:26:56 GMT, "Rudy Lacchin"
> <rulaREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> If you are any kind of photographer at all you'll KNOW when it's safe to
> show
> one of your images to another without offending everyone and without
> having to
> ask. Unfortunately 99.9999% of the people that buy a camera today are
> never
> bright enough to know this. Imagine the same scenario if those very same
> people
> all bought violins and posted all their sounds to every page on the
> internet, no
> images, just their dying-cat noises on every page on the internet.
>
> So I keep my gun handy.
>

Do the rest of us a huge favor and shoot yourself with said handy gun. But
be sure to capture a series of your own amazingly well composed photographs
of the process so that those of us who remain behind can marvel at your
sheer artistic expressionism and lament the world's having lost such an
incredible talent!
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 02:20:23 -0500, JoeT wrote:

> Do the rest of us a huge favor and shoot yourself with said handy gun. But
> be sure to capture a series of your own amazingly well composed photographs
> of the process so that those of us who remain behind can marvel at your
> sheer artistic expressionism and lament the world's having lost such an
> incredible talent!

Sorry, but one of this sock puppy's alter egos has already said
that since the world isn't deserving, none of us will be rewarded
with his award winning photos :

:: BaumBaddy, et. al. ::
:: Everyone that's seen my photography wonders why I don't sell
:: coffee-table books or enter them in galleries or contact Nat. Geo.
:: or something like that. Society as a whole would have to prove to
:: me that they deserve to see them. I know now that that's never
:: going to happen. I used to sell my photography long long ago. But
:: when I saw what kinds of undeserving useless cretins were able to
:: enjoy my photography just by handing me their ill-gotten money
:: I decided the best thing to do was take all of it off the market and
:: never reveal anything new to the general public ever again.
:: Instructions in my will to destroy them all, if I don't do it myself first.
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ben brugman wrote:
>
>>
>> Harsh but fair.
>>
>> Besides you can knock it up a lot more effectively in Photoshop.
>
> Yes you could, but the total system to get this result will cost a
> number of times the cost of the camera.
> Although I do not consider such a feature usefull, there are people with
> digital camera's, but without Photoshop or even without a PC.
>
> So for some people these features are usefull, do not compare these
> features with products costing a lot more.
>
> ben
>
Hey don't pick on me. I should've added a "" to my post, perhaps.
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"ASAAR" <caught DeleteThis @22.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 02:20:23 -0500, JoeT wrote:
>
>> Do the rest of us a huge favor and shoot yourself with said handy gun.
>> But
>> be sure to capture a series of your own amazingly well composed
>> photographs
>> of the process so that those of us who remain behind can marvel at your
>> sheer artistic expressionism and lament the world's having lost such an
>> incredible talent!
>
> Sorry, but one of this sock puppy's alter egos has already said
> that since the world isn't deserving, none of us will be rewarded
> with his award winning photos :
>
> :: BaumBaddy, et. al. ::
> :: Everyone that's seen my photography wonders why I don't sell
> :: coffee-table books or enter them in galleries or contact Nat. Geo.
> :: or something like that. Society as a whole would have to prove to
> :: me that they deserve to see them. I know now that that's never
> :: going to happen. I used to sell my photography long long ago. But
> :: when I saw what kinds of undeserving useless cretins were able to
> :: enjoy my photography just by handing me their ill-gotten money
> :: I decided the best thing to do was take all of it off the market and
> :: never reveal anything new to the general public ever again.
> :: Instructions in my will to destroy them all, if I don't do it myself
> first.
>

If the last bit of above quoted wisdom is an additional example of Mr.
perfect's grasp of grammatical structure and Usenet etiquette then as was
stated by another respondent, the application of his own standards dictates
that his ability to afflict anyone with his opinions in any form should be
irreversibly circumvented. Off with his fingers, tongue and internet access!
Personally I believe the world would benefit most immensely from the strict
and rapid enactment of my originally posted solution to his dilemma.

At any rate, if one has no intention of sharing a photograph then it would
seem counter-intuitive to influence the image by using a camera and its
limitations to screw it up with reality! Simply compose and memorize the
image in the unadulterated condition in which it exists at the precise
moment an actual photographer would press the shutter release!

To the OP I say this, the fewer special effects one applies to permanently
alter an image at the time of capture (in camera) the more one can do (or
more appropriately the less one must undo) in post editing to correct and
enhance or otherwise save the usefulness of that image.

In other words the color accent etc. done in camera had better turn out to
be exactly what you were after, if it doesn't there may be no way to remove
or change the effect after the fact.
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