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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:33 am
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I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
its construction.
Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:41 am
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 09:33:09 -0800 (PST), Joe <in2deep DeleteThis @airpost.net>
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>I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
>most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
>am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
>format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
>page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
>the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
>borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
>couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
>hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
>necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
>basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
>profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
>its construction.
>
>Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
>something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
>camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
One time disposal digital cameras are available
Maybe the mp coount is only about 5mp. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:21 am
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There are many compact cameras on the market with more than 7 mp, and
in good light conditions you can have decent pictures. Price for
decent compact would start around $200. Check sites like dpreview for
detailed testing and recommendation. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:35 am
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It is possible to rent. Cheapest way may be to hire a photographer.
Magazine will probably prefer to do the editing. I would be happy to help
out for free if location is near Salem, Oregon. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:46 am
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Joe <in2deep.TakeThisOut@airpost.net> wrote:
>I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
>most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
>am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
>format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
>page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
>the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
>borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
>couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
>hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
>necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
>basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
>profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
>its construction.
>
>Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
>something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
>camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
Two suggestions, take your pick:
1) Rent a camera. A pro model Nikon or Canon.
2) Hire a photographer. One who owns and uses the
requisite Nikon or Canon...
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd.TakeThisOut@apaflo.com >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:25 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:59 pm
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:56:00 -0500
Shawn Hirn <srhi DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote:
> In article <fqCdnVB7jJ99a8_anZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d DeleteThis @pipex.net>,
> Brendan Gillatt <brendanREMOVETHIS DeleteThis @brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > What I can say, however is that 8mp is pushing it for the small
> > sensors and lenses in a point and shoot - expect quite a lot of
> > noise and some nasty aberrations.
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> Nonsense. I have a 12MM Sony point and shoot camera that takes
> spectacular photos, even in low light. It cost me around $300 and I
> am thrilled with it. I have a Canon Digital Rebel with probably about
> $2,000 worth of lenses and I like my little Sony a lot more.
Did you mean "12mp"? Although I can imagine reasons to prefer a
small camera over a half ton of DSLR gear, I don't buy the "spectacular
photos in low light" claim. Please prove it by posting a few samples
and identifying the camera.
Paul Allen (who uses an FZ30 point-n-shoot) >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:53 pm
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In article
<b30804cd-ac54-4d99-a308-e1154a5c389a.TakeThisOut@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Joe <in2deep.TakeThisOut@airpost.net> wrote:
> I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
> most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
> am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
> format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
> page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
> the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
> borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
> couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
> hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
> necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
> basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
> profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
> its construction.
>
> Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
> something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
> camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
The cheapest way? Ask friends, colleagues, relatives if they have a
digital camera to lend you for this project. If you prefer to stay with
large format photography, and you only need a digital camera for this
one projects, just borrow a camera from someone you know.
If you want to use the digital camera for other projects, there are tons
of excellent choices to consider. Check out http://www.dpreviewe.com and
see what interests you for your needs and budget. Good luck. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:53 pm
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I don't know why you can not use your large format camera. Take the
pictures and have the prints or negatives scanned to digital files, by a
professional service. You get the quality at almost no cost.
Al
"Shawn Hirn" <srhi.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-022479.13535502122007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article
> <b30804cd-ac54-4d99-a308-e1154a5c389a.DeleteThis@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> Joe <in2deep.DeleteThis@airpost.net> wrote:
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>> I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
>> most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
>> am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
>> format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
>> page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
>> the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
>> borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
>> couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
>> hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
>> necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
>> basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
>> profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
>> its construction.
>>
>> Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
>> something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
>> camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
>
> The cheapest way? Ask friends, colleagues, relatives if they have a
> digital camera to lend you for this project. If you prefer to stay with
> large format photography, and you only need a digital camera for this
> one projects, just borrow a camera from someone you know.
>
> If you want to use the digital camera for other projects, there are tons
> of excellent choices to consider. Check out http://www.dpreviewe.com and
> see what interests you for your needs and budget. Good luck. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:18 pm
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Joe wrote:
> I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
> most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
> am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
> format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
> page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
> the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
> borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
> couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
> hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
> necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
> basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
> profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
> its construction.
>
> Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
> something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
> camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
I've heard that Fujifilm digital point & shoot cameras have good sensors
and Sonys have good lenses. I've used only a couple of Sonys and one
Fujifilm (borrowed) so I can't give you a specific model to look out for.
What I can say, however is that 8mp is pushing it for the small sensors
and lenses in a point and shoot - expect quite a lot of noise and some
nasty aberrations.
- --
Brendan Gillatt
brendan {at} brendangillatt {dot} co {dot} uk
http://www.brendangillatt.co.uk
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:18 pm
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In article <fqCdnVB7jJ99a8_anZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d RemoveThis @pipex.net>,
Brendan Gillatt <brendanREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk>
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> Joe wrote:
> > I know next to nothing about digital, being a large format film user
> > most of my life. I have to shoot some digital images of a boat that I
> > am writing a magazine article about. Its not practical to use my large
> > format for this project. They prefer an 8 mp camera for a hi-res full
> > page shot but she said 7 mp might suffice. I have neither. What is
> > the cheapest way for me to get a publication quality image? I've
> > borrowed a friend's digital camera (unfortunately its not an 8mp) a
> > couple times and thats the limit of my digital experience. I expect/
> > hope the editor or his staff can do any fine tuning to the images, if
> > necessary, as I dont have time (or desire) to learn PS. I can do
> > basic manipulations and cropping etc. I'm going to want a full-frame
> > profile image of this 17 foot long boat and some moderate close ups of
> > its construction.
> >
> > Will a relative inexpensive P&S digital work, or can I possibly rent
> > something for a reasonable price? I really cant afford to buy an $800+
> > camera for one project that probably wont even pay that much.
>
> I've heard that Fujifilm digital point & shoot cameras have good sensors
> and Sonys have good lenses. I've used only a couple of Sonys and one
> Fujifilm (borrowed) so I can't give you a specific model to look out for.
>
> What I can say, however is that 8mp is pushing it for the small sensors
> and lenses in a point and shoot - expect quite a lot of noise and some
> nasty aberrations.
Nonsense. I have a 12MM Sony point and shoot camera that takes
spectacular photos, even in low light. It cost me around $300 and I am
thrilled with it. I have a Canon Digital Rebel with probably about
$2,000 worth of lenses and I like my little Sony a lot more. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:34 pm
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On Dec 2, 10:21 am, gnek... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> There are many compact cameras on the market with more than 7 mp, and
> in good light conditions you can have decent pictures. Price for
> decent compact would start around $200. Check sites like dpreview for
> detailed testing and recommendation.
What is "good light" for digital? I will be shooting inside under
primarily fluorescent lights, with some additional daylight from north
facing windows. However if its a dark day, the windows might not
provide much. Additional tungsten light may be available. I dont
know, its beyond my control.
BTW, why is the aperture range so limited on most (perhaps all) of the
P&S cameras I've looked at? Being used to large format lenses and
depth of field controls I'm confused and worried when I see apertures
only in the 3-5 range. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:20 pm
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In article <20071202125958.398c84cb RemoveThis @granite.localdomain>,
Paul Allen <paul.l.allen RemoveThis @NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 13:56:00 -0500
> Shawn Hirn <srhi RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
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> > In article <fqCdnVB7jJ99a8_anZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d RemoveThis @pipex.net>,
> > Brendan Gillatt <brendanREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @brendanREMOVETHISgillatt.co.uk>
> > wrote:
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> > > What I can say, however is that 8mp is pushing it for the small
> > > sensors and lenses in a point and shoot - expect quite a lot of
> > > noise and some nasty aberrations.
> >
> > Nonsense. I have a 12MM Sony point and shoot camera that takes
> > spectacular photos, even in low light. It cost me around $300 and I
> > am thrilled with it. I have a Canon Digital Rebel with probably about
> > $2,000 worth of lenses and I like my little Sony a lot more.
>
> Did you mean "12mp"? Although I can imagine reasons to prefer a
> small camera over a half ton of DSLR gear, I don't buy the "spectacular
> photos in low light" claim. Please prove it by posting a few samples
> and identifying the camera.
>
> Paul Allen (who uses an FZ30 point-n-shoot)
Yes, sorry. I meant 12MP. As for samples, go to
http://www.myspace.com/ketchup_on_everything and look in the photo album
called "Christmas in Philly" which were shot with the same P&S camera I
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:27 am
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Joe wrote:
> On Dec 2, 10:21 am, gnek....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> There are many compact cameras on the market with more than 7 mp, and
>> in good light conditions you can have decent pictures. Price for
>> decent compact would start around $200. Check sites like dpreview for
>> detailed testing and recommendation.
>
> What is "good light" for digital? I will be shooting inside under
> primarily fluorescent lights, with some additional daylight from north
> facing windows. However if its a dark day, the windows might not
> provide much. Additional tungsten light may be available. I dont
> know, its beyond my control.
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> BTW, why is the aperture range so limited on most (perhaps all) of the
> P&S cameras I've looked at? Being used to large format lenses and
> depth of field controls I'm confused and worried when I see apertures
> only in the 3-5 range.
Because small cameras just don't have room to include large lenses. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:48 am
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Joe wrote:
> On Dec 2, 10:21 am, gnek....RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>> There are many compact cameras on the market with more than 7 mp, and
>> in good light conditions you can have decent pictures. Price for
>> decent compact would start around $200. Check sites like dpreview for
>> detailed testing and recommendation.
>
> What is "good light" for digital?
Low ISO.
> I will be shooting inside under
> primarily fluorescent lights, with some additional daylight from north
> facing windows. However if its a dark day, the windows might not
> provide much. Additional tungsten light may be available. I dont
> know, its beyond my control.
>
> BTW, why is the aperture range so limited on most (perhaps all) of the
> P&S cameras I've looked at? Being used to large format lenses and
> depth of field controls I'm confused and worried when I see apertures
> only in the 3-5 range.
Smaller apertures suffer from diffraction on smaller sensors. f/3.5 or
so is as much as you can stop down without losing sharpness. >> Stay informed about: camera recommendation |
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