Which camera for pocket? Sigma DP1?

On Dec 1, 5:52 am, Viator <varioustr... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need a small, durable, good quality camera that I can keep
> in my jacket pocket at all times to capture sudden
> important events and that may include fast-moving objects.
> So, my priorities are:
> - durability
> - smaller size
> - megapixels
> - faster focus
>
> My price range is less than $500 but I could go up.
>
> 1.
> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
> Also, what will the price be?

Sigma has a very odd way of counting pixels, they count each one three
times,
so there 14 MP would be something just under 5.


Sigma is having a lot of problems getting the camera to market, it is
just getting into alfa testing now.

I would not even think about buying on untill there are some reviews
out.

Scott
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On Dec 1, 11:31 am, Scott W <biph....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 1, 5:52 am, Viator <varioustr....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I need a small, durable, good quality camera that I can keep
> > in my jacket pocket at all times to capture sudden
> > important events and that may include fast-moving objects.
> > So, my priorities are:
> > - durability
> > - smaller size
> > - megapixels
> > - faster focus
>
> > My price range is less than $500 but I could go up.
>
> > 1.
> > I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
> > older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
> > Also, what will the price be?
>
> Sigma has a very odd way of counting pixels, they count each one three
> times,
> so there 14 MP would be something just under 5.
>
> Sigma is having a lot of problems getting the camera to market, it is
> just getting into alfa testing now.
>
> I would not even think about buying on untill there are some reviews
> out.
>
> Scott

Actual resolution thanks to not having the kind of image-degrading
filters as a Bayer camera is that of a 10 megapixel DSLR, or so some
reviewers have said. That is based on the SD14 DSLR which has the
same sensor the pocketable thing is supposed to have. Interesting
thing is, why have they had image problems with it? Is it due to some
incompatibility with the Foveon sensor and a close-sensor fixed focal
length lens? Or, would Sigma actually say they had image problems
when in-fact their market analysis showed that a single focal length
lens is simply not salable in this camera buyer's climate so they went
back to create a 3x zoom or something?
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> 1.
> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
> Also, what will the price be?

Sigma lies about megapixels due to their oddball sensor technology. buy
a Sigma camera, and you'll be sorry.

> 2.
> I noticed that some Leica camera are nearly identical to
> Panasonic's, e.g. Leica Digilux 2 = Panasonic DMC LC-1.
> But are the Panasonic cameras as good?

No.
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> Viator <varioustrees DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
>> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
>> Also, what will the price be?
>
> the dp-1 is vaporware.
>
Wrong, it's Fartware! Like vapourware, but with a smell.
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"Viator" <varioustrees.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I need a small, durable, good quality camera that I can keep
> in my jacket pocket at all times to capture sudden
> important events and that may include fast-moving objects.

I don't think there's any pocketable camera capable of capturing fast moving
objects. They're all pretty slow.

> So, my priorities are:
> - durability
> - smaller size
> - megapixels
> - faster focus
>
> My price range is less than $500 but I could go up.
>
> 1.
> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
> Also, what will the price be?

According to an article on DPReview, that camera just entered alpha testing,
so it could be a while.

>
> 2.
> I noticed that some Leica camera are nearly identical to
> Panasonic's, e.g. Leica Digilux 2 = Panasonic DMC LC-1.
> But are the Panasonic cameras as good?

Same camera, different label.

>
> Thanks.
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"Viator" <varioustrees.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I need a small, durable, good quality camera that I can keep
> in my jacket pocket at all times to capture sudden
> important events and that may include fast-moving objects.
> So, my priorities are:
> - durability
> - smaller size
> - megapixels
> - faster focus
>
> My price range is less than $500 but I could go up.
>
> 1.
> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
> Also, what will the price be?
>

Why not focus on cameras that are actually available now?
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Kinon O'Cann <fuged.DeleteThis@bout.it> wrote:


: > But are the Panasonic cameras as good?
: Same camera, different label.

To be precise: Same hardware, different software. Leica's is pricier
and said to be better.
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Marty Fremen wrote:
> In
> principle the DP1 is like a GR-D with the added benefit of decent size
> sensor.

While not getting caught up in megapixel wars, the DP1 at 4.7 MP was
simply not going to make it, given all the other issues with the Foveon
sensor.
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> Kinon O'Cann <fuged RemoveThis @bout.it> wrote:
>
>
> : > But are the Panasonic cameras as good?
> : Same camera, different label.
>
> To be precise: Same hardware, different software. Leica's is pricier
> and said to be better.

I've yet to see this proved. Samples from both cameras are identical. Only
difference I can see is the longer warranty.
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> Viator <varioustrees DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> 1.
>> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
>> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
>> Also, what will the price be?
>
> Sigma lies about megapixels due to their oddball sensor technology. buy
> a Sigma camera, and you'll be sorry.
>
>> 2.
>> I noticed that some Leica camera are nearly identical to
>> Panasonic's, e.g. Leica Digilux 2 = Panasonic DMC LC-1.
>> But are the Panasonic cameras as good?
>
> No.

Same camera, different label. How are the Leicas better?
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Mark B. wrote:
> "Viator" <varioustrees.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4d2479f1-0a45-4ab6-81b3-0fe8e2a7f2da@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need a small, durable, good quality camera that I can keep
>> in my jacket pocket at all times to capture sudden
>> important events and that may include fast-moving objects.
>> So, my priorities are:
>> - durability
>> - smaller size
>> - megapixels

Don't worry here.

>> - faster focus
>>
>> My price range is less than $500 but I could go up.
>>
>> 1.
>> I have read that the Sigma DP1 will be 14 megapixels, but
>> older info seems to say it is only to be 5. Which is it?
>> Also, what will the price be?
>>
>
> Why not focus on cameras that are actually available now?

Nikon D50 used for $400 & a 28mm f/2.8 lens for $230 new though this is
not pocket sized it's pretty small & fast. Or a D40 & Sigma 30mm f/1.4
for more $, or a Canon Xt for $500 & 28/2.8 for $170.
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