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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:14 pm
Post subject: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well, or should I use PC software?
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Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well? Or am I
better off using PC software?
I'm considering buy a new Pentax Optio, but have noticed they
discontinued the feature on their new products. My Optio S5i had the
feature (rarely used at the time), and I've seen the feature offered
on competing models. The prospects of using the feature seem
important to me. But I can't help but wonder why Pentax decided to
discontinue the feature. Perhaps the in-camera assist was not that
good, and I could get far better results by taking the photos
manually, and using PC software.
I'd like to know what others have experienced, and if anyone knows why
such a nice feature would be removed from the cameras?
Thanks,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:57 am
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well, [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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snakyjake wrote:
> Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well? Or am I
> better off using PC software?
>
> I'm considering buy a new Pentax Optio, but have noticed they
> discontinued the feature on their new products. My Optio S5i had the
> feature (rarely used at the time), and I've seen the feature offered
> on competing models. The prospects of using the feature seem
> important to me. But I can't help but wonder why Pentax decided to
> discontinue the feature. Perhaps the in-camera assist was not that
> good, and I could get far better results by taking the photos
> manually, and using PC software.
>
> I'd like to know what others have experienced, and if anyone knows why
> such a nice feature would be removed from the cameras?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jake
>
Most 'panorama assist' modes must superimpose something in the
viewfinder to show recommended overlap. I have done panos for years,
even back when shooting film, and never had any assistance. With
automatic cameras, you need to watch the settings, and the light.
Cloudless days are the best, and setting the camera on something (a
tripod is best), and rotating it to give about 30% overlap works well.
PC based pano software will do much more than any camera can possibly
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:22 pm
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well, or should I use PC software? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well, [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ray Paseur wrote:
> Ron Hunter <rphunter.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in
> news:KJ6dncrt3tSZ9j3bnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@giganews.com:
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>> snakyjake wrote:
>>> Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well? Or am I
>>> better off using PC software?
>>>
>
> Have a look at PTGUI:
>
>> http://www.ptgui.com/
>
I think you've both missed the question, apologies if I'm wrong. I read
the post as the op believing the camera built in assist does all the
work AND the stitching. This of course is not so. The built in assist
shows a recommended portion of the image for optimum overlap and in the
case of canon names successive shots in this mode for utilization by
their included software. I only ever used it once and found it very easy
to use. Having got a good result on the monitor, getting it printed was
another matter and a discussion for another day.
To summarize, it is an assist, but by no means mandatory. I can only
speak for the canon setup and haven't attempted to use alternate software.
Dave Cohen >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well,or [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dave Cohen wrote:
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> Ray Paseur wrote:
> > Ron Hunter <rphunter RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote in
> > news:KJ6dncrt3tSZ9j3bnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@giganews.com:
> >
> >> snakyjake wrote:
> >>> Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well? Or am I
> >>> better off using PC software?
> >>>
> >
> > Have a look at PTGUI:
> >
> >> http://www.ptgui.com/
> >
>
> I think you've both missed the question, apologies if I'm wrong. I read
> the post as the op believing the camera built in assist does all the
> work AND the stitching. This of course is not so. The built in assist
> shows a recommended portion of the image for optimum overlap and in the
> case of canon names successive shots in this mode for utilization by
> their included software. I only ever used it once and found it very easy
> to use. Having got a good result on the monitor, getting it printed was
> another matter and a discussion for another day.
> To summarize, it is an assist, but by no means mandatory. I can only
> speak for the canon setup and haven't attempted to use alternate software.
> Dave Cohen
Hello, Dave:
My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
still unable to align the images, properly.
More practice is required, obviously. 
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:14 am
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well,or should I use PC software? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:56 am
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Dave Cohen wrote:
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> I think you've both missed the question, apologies if I'm wrong. I read
> the post as the op believing the camera built in assist does all the
> work AND the stitching. This of course is not so. The built in assist
> shows a recommended portion of the image for optimum overlap and in the
> case of canon names successive shots in this mode for utilization by
> their included software. I only ever used it once and found it very easy
> to use. Having got a good result on the monitor, getting it printed was
> another matter and a discussion for another day.
> To summarize, it is an assist, but by no means mandatory. I can only
> speak for the canon setup and haven't attempted to use alternate software.
> Dave Cohen
I think the Canons also "lock in" the exposure calcualated
on the first frame for all successive frames.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well,or should I use PC software? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi John,
It can get tricky. Personally, I have used this camera as I gave it to my
girlfriend. I set it on a tripod and loosen the head just a bit. The tricky
part is keeping the scene within perspective so when you bring the panorama
features into play it is as close to the preset image data that is included
to help you align the shot. the tripod does a good job, but you can do OK if
you keep a good stance.
Talk to you soon,
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
"John Turco" <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> wrote in message
news:46A428A7.5D35F0DC@concentric.net...
> Dave Cohen wrote:
>>
>> Ray Paseur wrote:
>> > Ron Hunter <rphunter RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote in
>> > news:KJ6dncrt3tSZ9j3bnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@giganews.com:
>> >
>> >> snakyjake wrote:
>> >>> Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well? Or am I
>> >>> better off using PC software?
>> >>>
>> >
>> > Have a look at PTGUI:
>> >
>> >> http://www.ptgui.com/
>> >
>>
>> I think you've both missed the question, apologies if I'm wrong. I read
>> the post as the op believing the camera built in assist does all the
>> work AND the stitching. This of course is not so. The built in assist
>> shows a recommended portion of the image for optimum overlap and in the
>> case of canon names successive shots in this mode for utilization by
>> their included software. I only ever used it once and found it very easy
>> to use. Having got a good result on the monitor, getting it printed was
>> another matter and a discussion for another day.
>> To summarize, it is an assist, but by no means mandatory. I can only
>> speak for the canon setup and haven't attempted to use alternate
>> software.
>> Dave Cohen
>
>
> Hello, Dave:
>
> My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
> mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
> still unable to align the images, properly.
>
> More practice is required, obviously.
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:41 am
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well,or [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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David J Taylor wrote:
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> John Turco wrote:
> []
> > Hello, Dave:
> >
> > My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
> > mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
> > still unable to align the images, properly.
> >
> > More practice is required, obviously.
> >
> >
> > Cordially,
> > John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net>
>
> Have you tried AutoStitch instead of the V603 firmware/software?
>
> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html
>
> David
Hello, David:
No, I haven't seriously attempted any panoramic pics; I'm just a
dabbler, mostly.
Thanks, for the suggestion, anyway.
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:12 am
Post subject: Re: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work well,or should I use PC software? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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John Turco wrote:
> David J Taylor wrote:
[]>> Have you tried AutoStitch instead of the V603 firmware/software?
>>
>> http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html
>>
>> David
>
>
> Hello, David:
>
> No, I haven't seriously attempted any panoramic pics; I'm just a
> dabbler, mostly.
>
> Thanks, for the suggestion, anyway.
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
John,
That software is so simple and easy to use, it's ideal for the "dabbler"!
<G>
Most of my use is just making a wide-angle shot from two, three or four
images, and not strictly panos as such.
Cheers,
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:11 pm
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Ron Baird wrote:
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> "John Turco" <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> wrote in message
> news:46A428A7.5D35F0DC@concentric.net...
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> > My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
> > mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
> > still unable to align the images, properly.
> >
> > More practice is required, obviously.
>
> Hi John,
>
> It can get tricky. Personally, I have used this camera as I gave it to my
> girlfriend. I set it on a tripod and loosen the head just a bit. The tricky
> part is keeping the scene within perspective so when you bring the panorama
> features into play it is as close to the preset image data that is included
> to help you align the shot. the tripod does a good job, but you can do OK if
> you keep a good stance.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
Hello, Ron:
Thanks, for your response. Actually, shortly after purchasing the
V603, I got lucky and made a successful 2-shot panorama -- and that
has hand-held, besides!
Alas, my (few) subsequent efforts have all been failures, despite
mounting the camera on a mini-tripod, in some cases.
Although, I'm pretty sure I'll get the hang of it, eventually. <g>
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:00 pm
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Hi John,
Glad to hear. Hey, if you ever need anything I can do, let me know.
Talk to you soon,
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
"John Turco" <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Baird wrote:
>>
>> "John Turco" <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> wrote in message
>> news:46A428A7.5D35F0DC@concentric.net...
>>
>> > My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
>> > mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
>> > still unable to align the images, properly.
>> >
>> > More practice is required, obviously.
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> It can get tricky. Personally, I have used this camera as I gave it to my
>> girlfriend. I set it on a tripod and loosen the head just a bit. The
>> tricky
>> part is keeping the scene within perspective so when you bring the
>> panorama
>> features into play it is as close to the preset image data that is
>> included
>> to help you align the shot. the tripod does a good job, but you can do OK
>> if
>> you keep a good stance.
>>
>> Talk to you soon,
>>
>> Ron Baird
>> Eastman Kodak Company
>
>
> Hello, Ron:
>
> Thanks, for your response. Actually, shortly after purchasing the
> V603, I got lucky and made a successful 2-shot panorama -- and that
> has hand-held, besides!
>
> Alas, my (few) subsequent efforts have all been failures, despite
> mounting the camera on a mini-tripod, in some cases.
>
> Although, I'm pretty sure I'll get the hang of it, eventually. <g>
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:56 pm
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Ron Baird wrote:
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> Hi John,
>
> Glad to hear. Hey, if you ever need anything I can do, let me know.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
<cut previous messages, for brevity>
Hello, Ron:
Thanks! How 'bout giving me some free samples of Kodak cameras, for all
I do to promote your employer's products, here? 
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:57 pm
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Hi John,
I am sure you will. If you did it once, you can do it every time. Let
me know if you need me.
Talk to you soon,
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
"John Turco" <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Baird wrote:
>>
>> "John Turco" <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> wrote in message
>> news:46A428A7.5D35F0DC@concentric.net...
>>
>> > My Kodak V603 does the stitching, itself. I've only tried its panorama
>> > mode, a few times, and with little success; even using a tripod, I'm
>> > still unable to align the images, properly.
>> >
>> > More practice is required, obviously.
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> It can get tricky. Personally, I have used this camera as I gave it to my
>> girlfriend. I set it on a tripod and loosen the head just a bit. The
>> tricky
>> part is keeping the scene within perspective so when you bring the
>> panorama
>> features into play it is as close to the preset image data that is
>> included
>> to help you align the shot. the tripod does a good job, but you can do OK
>> if
>> you keep a good stance.
>>
>> Talk to you soon,
>>
>> Ron Baird
>> Eastman Kodak Company
>
>
> Hello, Ron:
>
> Thanks, for your response. Actually, shortly after purchasing the
> V603, I got lucky and made a successful 2-shot panorama -- and that
> has hand-held, besides!
>
> Alas, my (few) subsequent efforts have all been failures, despite
> mounting the camera on a mini-tripod, in some cases.
>
> Although, I'm pretty sure I'll get the hang of it, eventually. <g>
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur RemoveThis @concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:24 pm
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Hey John,
I would be glad to share with you if I had any cameras. I only have access
to the new cameras coming to market and none that available. The days of
giving cameras to supporters has long gone. Kodak is so finely tuned that
such options do not exist. But, I do appreciate your interest. My offer was
more in the way of intellectual sharing. I have a lot of that.
Talk to you soon, John,
Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
"John Turco" <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Baird wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Glad to hear. Hey, if you ever need anything I can do, let me know.
>>
>> Talk to you soon,
>>
>> Ron Baird
>> Eastman Kodak Company
>
> <cut previous messages, for brevity>
>
> Hello, Ron:
>
> Thanks! How 'bout giving me some free samples of Kodak cameras, for all
> I do to promote your employer's products, here?
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Does the in-camera panorama assist/stitch feature work wel.. |
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