When that new camera arrives at your doorstep...

Dave wrote:
> If a camera been out in the cold, you don't want to take it out of the box
> for probably at least an hour, until it has a chance to gradually warm up to
> room temperature. If you take a cold camera and immediately bring it into a
> warm room, you'll get condensation on it which may damage it!
>

We don't have that problem, we keep the inside of the house the same
temperature as the outside of the house.

Scott
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Dave wrote:
> If a camera been out in the cold, you don't want to take it out of the box
> for probably at least an hour, until it has a chance to gradually warm up to
> room temperature. If you take a cold camera and immediately bring it into a
> warm room, you'll get condensation on it which may damage it!
>
>

We don't have that problem, we keep the outside of the house the same
temperature as the inside of the house.

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Scott W wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> If a camera been out in the cold, you don't want to take it out of the
>> box for probably at least an hour, until it has a chance to gradually
>> warm up to room temperature. If you take a cold camera and immediately
>> bring it into a warm room, you'll get condensation on it which may
>> damage it!
>
> We don't have that problem, we keep the inside of the house the same
> temperature as the outside of the house.
>
> Scott

Sure hope you don't live in Nome, Alaska, or Laredo, Tx.!!!
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I normally don't have the problem. I live in Tucson
"Scott W" <biphoto RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave wrote:
>> If a camera been out in the cold, you don't want to take it out of the
>> box for probably at least an hour, until it has a chance to gradually
>> warm up to room temperature. If you take a cold camera and immediately
>> bring it into a warm room, you'll get condensation on it which may damage
>> it!
>
> We don't have that problem, we keep the inside of the house the same
> temperature as the outside of the house.
>
> Scott
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"Dave" <dave2681 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> If a camera been out in the cold, you don't want to take it out of the box
> for probably at least an hour, until it has a chance to gradually warm up
> to room temperature. If you take a cold camera and immediately bring it
> into a warm room, you'll get condensation on it which may damage it!
>

This is an especially big problem with DSLR cameras that have more mass and
glass that stays cold longer. Be sure not to change lenses or remove lens
caps for at least four hours after bringing them indoors! Moisture can
damage the coatings on lenses.

Moisture can easily get trapped inside a sealed DSLR and corrode the insides
of the camera. Be sure to regularly warm up the camera and let it sit for a
while with the lens removed so that the internals can get dried out.

NM
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On Dec 5, 10:54 pm, Scott W <biph....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> We don't have that problem, we keep the inside of the house the same
> temperature as the outside of the house.
>
> Scott

I knew my favorite lucky bastard from Hawaii would say that!

Let me guess today's forecast. Low of 74, high of 82.
Was I close?
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Annika1980 wrote:
> On Dec 5, 10:54 pm, Scott W <biph... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> We don't have that problem, we keep the inside of the house the same
>> temperature as the outside of the house.
>>
>> Scott
>
> I knew my favorite lucky bastard from Hawaii would say that!
>
> Let me guess today's forecast. Low of 74, high of 82.
> Was I close?
>

Something like that, but we have a storm system parked over us right now.


<http://weather.hawaii.edu/satellite/satanim.cgi?chnl=ui4&domain=nep&banner=uhmet&satplat=goes10>

Yesterday we had a lot of rain and a lot of high wind, very rough seas.

<http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Dec/05/br/br3256849017.html>

We saw them coming in, wait for a while and then leave.

This would be one bad week to be vacationing in Hawaii.

But I did get more camera gear from UPS yesterday and I am happy to say
I did not need to let it warm up slowly. I will post some images from
the new stuff soon.

Scott
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On Dec 6, 2:35 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay....RemoveThis@blueyonder.not-this-
bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
> ~~NoMad~~ wrote:
>
> []
>
> > This is an especially big problem with DSLR cameras that have more
> > mass and glass that stays cold longer. Be sure not to change lenses
> > or remove lens caps for at least four hours after bringing them
> > indoors! Moisture can damage the coatings on lenses.
>
> I don't accept that statement about damage from moisture, but if it were
> true, it would be equally true for both large and small cameras.
>
> > Moisture can easily get trapped inside a sealed DSLR and corrode the
> > insides of the camera. Be sure to regularly warm up the camera and
> > let it sit for a while with the lens removed so that the internals
> > can get dried out.
> > NM
>
> I would not normally recommend keeping a DSLR with the lens removed for
> any period.
>
> David


I've been changing lenses outdoors, indoors just after coming in from
outdoors (ie while there is still condensation on the camera and lens
that was mounted on it from bringing it inside) etc for around 20
months now with my d200, with no problems.

And I do think that leaving an slr sitting there with the lens off to
dry is a fairly stupid thing to do (sort of like leaving your film slr
open to dry... "dry"? come on!). However, this suggestion is but a
drop in the ocean of stupidity that this group has recently been
turned into.
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Jim Townsend <not DeleteThis @real.address> wrote:
>Joseph Meehan wrote:
>
>> You have a point, but in 45+ years of photography I have brought all
>> kinds of cameras in from the cold, including digitals, and never had a
>> problem.
>
>Same here.
>
>In cold climates, the relative humidity inside the house drops when the air is
>heated. Many people have to install humidifiers on their furnaces to keep the humidity
>up to a tolerable level. But with a humidifier, you can't put the humidity up too high
>or the windows will start dripping.
>
>The link below has the temps where I live right now. It gets down to 40 below zero
>here sometimes. Despite that, I've *never* had a problem with condensation.

So the windows drip, but your cameras don't???

I'm not sure if you are saying that you handle cameras
correctly and as a result have never had a problem; or
if you are claiming that no special handling is
necessary (which is only true if you don't take the
camera outside when it's cold).

>http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-38_metric_e.html

See what happens when we get a warm spell here? The
cold air from Siberia gets pushed north of us, and goes
east of us... and *you* get it!

Barrow is reporting -12C right now, and the low in the past
24 hours was only down to -24C.

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Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd DeleteThis @apaflo.com
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On Dec 6, 6:39 pm, "Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAM....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I suspect those who worship the camera rather than seeing it as just a
> tool to get the image, would have a different feel for all this. It has
> been a long time since I worked professionally in photography, but I did
> learn that all a camera is is a way to and end. It is to be used and not
> worshiped. Worrying about the camera can come between you and the image.
> Not that my images are anything to worship themselves, but frankly I don't
> worry all that much about my camera.

This I agree with, although they tend to be expensive and some care
should be taken. But, as I've said, I cycle daily 15km to work and
back, and it is usually cool and raining at night when I cycle back.
Mostly I normally just sling the camera over my shoulder, except if it
is heavily raining, when I put it in a rucksack or something similar.
So of course as soon as I enter my house it's moist all over (surface,
filter etc). What can I say, nothing has happened to it in 20 months
(although for part of that I used a bag all the time). Maybe I'm just
lucky.
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I suspect those who worship the camera rather than seeing it as just a
tool to get the image, would have a different feel for all this. It has
been a long time since I worked professionally in photography, but I did
learn that all a camera is is a way to and end. It is to be used and not
worshiped. Worrying about the camera can come between you and the image.
Not that my images are anything to worship themselves, but frankly I don't
worry all that much about my camera.

"Jim Townsend" <not.RemoveThis@real.address> wrote in message
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> Joseph Meehan wrote:
>
>> You have a point, but in 45+ years of photography I have brought all
>> kinds of cameras in from the cold, including digitals, and never had a
>> problem.
>
> Same here.
>
> In cold climates, the relative humidity inside the house drops when the
> air is
> heated. Many people have to install humidifiers on their furnaces to keep
> the humidity
> up to a tolerable level. But with a humidifier, you can't put the humidity
> up too high
> or the windows will start dripping.
>
> The link below has the temps where I live right now. It gets down to 40
> below zero
> here sometimes. Despite that, I've *never* had a problem with
> condensation.
>
> http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/mb-38_metric_e.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
Joseph Meehan

Dia 's Muire duit
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~~NoMad~~ wrote:
[]
> This is an especially big problem with DSLR cameras that have more
> mass and glass that stays cold longer. Be sure not to change lenses
> or remove lens caps for at least four hours after bringing them
> indoors! Moisture can damage the coatings on lenses.

I don't accept that statement about damage from moisture, but if it were
true, it would be equally true for both large and small cameras.

> Moisture can easily get trapped inside a sealed DSLR and corrode the
> insides of the camera. Be sure to regularly warm up the camera and
> let it sit for a while with the lens removed so that the internals
> can get dried out.
> NM

I would not normally recommend keeping a DSLR with the lens removed for
any period.

David
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