my buying question, a canon a610 or a630?

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> freestonew DeleteThis @yahoo.com writes:
> > I have a canon a410 now, and I *sort* of like it, but often it fails to
> > capture a good image in low light and i do not like the flash.
>
> A 610 or 630 might be slightly better but the difference won't be great.
> You really want an external flash that you can bounce etc. I'd say
> save your money for a Rebel XT or something comparable.

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 >> Stay informed about: my buying question, a canon a610 or a630? 

On 8 Oct 2006 11:40:09 -0700, freestonew.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:

>hi all....
>
>Here I am with a camera buying problem. I really like the canon a610,
>but alas they cannot be found in stores, but these are several places
>on the net where they can be bought for $180 to $220
>refurbished, and with canon warrenty.
>Then there is Best buy with the new canon a630, at $300, and a $60
>protection plan to boot.
>
>but IS the 630 worth the extra $100, or so?!

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>
>Is the a630 worth that $100+ difference?
>
>thanks...freestone

freestone,
Here is my opinion as an A95 & A610 owner.

The A610, A630 & A640 all have the same physical size sensor,
1/1.8" with 5MP, 8MP & 10MP respectively. *If* all other factors are
the *same* then sensor noise should increase with the higher density
(smaller pixel size), less light per pixel per unit of time.

From what little I have seem thus far I won't be adding an
A630 to my collection for 2 reasons:

1> The A630 (8MP) may exhibit higher noise or added in-camera
processing effects employed to reduce image noise.

2> The A630 (8MP) lacks the remote image capture firmware just as the
A610 (5MP) does, however both the A620 (7.1MP) & the A640 (10MP) have
it. Likely Canon's was to justify the added cost for those who want
this feature.

Another thing to consider is @ Canon's web site:


http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fc...goryid=

Download their "Sample Images" from the cameras of
consideration & look @ the EXIF DATA & you will see that they have
been processed through Adobe PS SC on a Mac. This may have been done
only to reduce the image file size, but there is no way to know "if"
that's all that was done. Even so, just reducing file size alone
still makes direct comparisons much less meaningful with uncompressed
files from their other cameras.

Bottom line:

If you're not in a rush to replace what you have, I would hold
out until more information is available including a review from:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/

Until then, this may help:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a610.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a620.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/a630.html

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/a640.html

Best of luck with whatever you decide & if low noise in a P&S
is important to you, you may also want to consider the FUJI F30:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/fuji_f30.html

Respectfully, DHB


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
 >> Stay informed about: my buying question, a canon a610 or a630? 

DHB wrote:
> On 8 Oct 2006 11:40:09 -0700, freestonew.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >hi all....
> >
> >Here I am with a camera buying problem. I really like the canon a610,
> >but alas they cannot be found in stores, but these are several places
> >on the net where they can be bought for $180 to $220
> >refurbished, and with canon warrenty.
> >Then there is Best buy with the new canon a630, at $300, and a $60
> >protection plan to boot.
> >
> >but IS the 630 worth the extra $100, or so?!
>
> <CUT>
>
> >
> >Is the a630 worth that $100+ difference?
> >
> >thanks...freestone
>
> freestone,
> Here is my opinion as an A95 & A610 owner.
>
> The A610, A630 & A640 all have the same physical size sensor,
> 1/1.8" with 5MP, 8MP & 10MP respectively. *If* all other factors are
> the *same* then sensor noise should increase with the higher density
> (smaller pixel size), less light per pixel per unit of time.
>
> From what little I have seem thus far I won't be adding an
> A630 to my collection for 2 reasons:
>
> 1> The A630 (8MP) may exhibit higher noise or added in-camera
> processing effects employed to reduce image noise.
>
> 2> The A630 (8MP) lacks the remote image capture firmware just as the
> A610 (5MP) does, however both the A620 (7.1MP) & the A640 (10MP) have
> it. Likely Canon's was to justify the added cost for those who want
> this feature.
>
> Another thing to consider is @ Canon's web site:
>
>
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ProductCatIndexAct&fc...goryid=
>
> Download their "Sample Images" from the cameras of
> consideration & look @ the EXIF DATA & you will see that they have
> been processed through Adobe PS SC on a Mac. This may have been done
> only to reduce the image file size, but there is no way to know "if"
> that's all that was done. Even so, just reducing file size alone
> still makes direct comparisons much less meaningful with uncompressed
> files from their other cameras.
>
> Bottom line:
>
> If you're not in a rush to replace what you have, I would hold
> out until more information is available including a review from:
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/
>
> Until then, this may help:
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a610.html
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/a620.html
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/a630.html
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/a640.html
>
> Best of luck with whatever you decide & if low noise in a P&S
> is important to you, you may also want to consider the FUJI F30:
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_reviews/fuji_f30.html
>
> Respectfully, DHB
>
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
> or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
> is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
> to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918



I thank you DHB!

I am coming around to the very same conclusion: that canon is pushing
the 630 and taking the 610..620 out, but new may not be best!

someone on a ???forum says that canon made a small mistake, to make a
camera in the point/click line that is nearly equal to a SLR!
goota fix *that*!!

the fuji will need, i see, the most expensive reader card and battery
proprietory. all of my 1 gib SD cards would be useless. I also
compared the images with vthis camera against the
a610, and that schoolhouse, there was a tremendus difference in favor
of the 610, for me at least!

I will probably go for the 610, unless I soon read differently!

thanks....freestone
 >> Stay informed about: my buying question, a canon a610 or a630?