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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:56 pm
Post subject: Re: should i buy a pentax k10d? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Oliver Costich" <ocostich.DeleteThis@NOSPAMcomcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:09:46 +0100, "Cgiorgio" <me.DeleteThis@nowhere.org> wrote:
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>><tootal2.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>news:yxozh.6476$gj4.4932@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
>>> lenses.
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>>If you find the Samsung GX10 at the same or better price: It includes
>>better
>>PC software (not sure about firmware differences except for the Logo).
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> But doesn't do Pentax RAW files. Only DNG. Most RAW workflow software
> won't process K10D (or Samsung) RAW properly.
DNG is PS standard, and the GX10 comes now with Silverfast, which gives
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:21 pm
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<tootal2 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Pete D wrote:
>> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet DeleteThis @mile23.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:1htbl8n.12qqacs1hdd69sN%usenet@mile23.c0m...
>>> tootal2 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net <tootal2 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:54:22 +0000, tootal2 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net wrote:
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>>>>>> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
>>>>>> lenses.
>>>>> So, what is the problem?
>>>> I think i will buy it. It will be nice to use my old 50 mm 1.7 lens on
>>>> it.
>>> If that older lens doesn't have an A setting on the aperture ring, you
>>> might have to change some settings on the camera to use it. But you
>>> *can* use it. 
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>> And the F1.7 is extremely sharp.
> Its also very old. i used it on my k1000. When went to Europe in 1982 I
> used my k1000 and a 50mm 1.7f lens. also used 64 and 100 iso slide film.
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> you can view them here on my smugmug site.
> ALL of them were taken with a k1000 and 50mm lens
> http://tootal2.smugmug.com/gallery/1215642#56872965
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> I think i will order the k10d kit tonight.
>
Have never had a K1000, as a features freak I went straight to the KM (still
use one occasionally) and I have had a K10D since the end of last Novemeber,
they are seriously good you will like it. |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:56 pm
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tootal2.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
> lenses.
I ordered the k10d from bhphoto.com I hope it is a good camera.
I will post some test photos with it next week i hope. >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:58 am
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 13:23:53 -0800, usenet RemoveThis @mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
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>Oliver Costich <ocostich RemoveThis @NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:46:40 -0800, usenet RemoveThis @mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
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>> >Oliver Costich <ocostich RemoveThis @NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:
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>> >> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:09:46 +0100, "Cgiorgio" <me RemoveThis @nowhere.org> wrote:
>> >> ><tootal2 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> >> >news:yxozh.6476$gj4.4932@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
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>> >> >> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
>> >> >> lenses.
>> >> >
>> >> >If you find the Samsung GX10 at the same or better price: It includes
>> >> >better PC software (not sure about firmware differences except for the
>> >> >Logo).
>> >>
>> >> But doesn't do Pentax RAW files. Only DNG. Most RAW workflow software
>> >> won't process K10D (or Samsung) RAW properly.
>> >
>> >I've never had a problem processing PEF files. What software are you
>> >having trouble with?
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>> Most notably, Adobe Camera Raw, which worked fine with PEF files up
>> to, but not including, the K10D, although apparently (I just checked)
>> the latest version does support the K10D files.
>>
>> I hadn't checked recently since I traded the K10D for a Nikon D80.
>
>So then it's unfair to say that 'most' RAW workflow software won't
>process K10D files.
Having rechecked, ACR support is not in the current version but in
the next version, to be released later this month. Silkypix and Bibble
supports it, but just recently. Last time I checked most of the
others, like Rawshooter, DxO, SharpRAW, ACDSee and Picasa do not.
Adobe Lightroom and Apple Aperture do not.
At this point most raw processing software does not properly read K10D
files. It's a good bet that all will eventually. >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:00 am
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 22:35:32 +0100, "Cgiorgio" <me DeleteThis @nowhere.org> wrote:
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>"Oliver Costich" <ocostich DeleteThis @NOSPAMcomcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:j0kus2l6a2na0akd5t6bt9tk9peguhcm8g@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 20:09:46 +0100, "Cgiorgio" <me DeleteThis @nowhere.org> wrote:
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>>><tootal2 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>>>news:yxozh.6476$gj4.4932@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
>>>> lenses.
>>>
>>>If you find the Samsung GX10 at the same or better price: It includes
>>>better
>>>PC software (not sure about firmware differences except for the Logo).
>>>
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>> But doesn't do Pentax RAW files. Only DNG. Most RAW workflow software
>> won't process K10D (or Samsung) RAW properly.
>
>DNG is PS standard, and the GX10 comes now with Silverfast, which gives
>excellent control (and the Samsung RAW converter).
>
TRy the White Balance settings on DNG files from the K10D and tell me
it is correctly reading them. Not all DNG diles are created equal. The
RAW software has to be able to read the info from the file and K10D
DNGs are different than others. >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:08 am
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:11:54 GMT, "tootal2@sbcglobal.net"
<tootal2.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>tootal2@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> Im thinking of buying a pentax k10d. it works with all my old pentax
>> lenses.
>I ordered the k10d from bhphoto.com I hope it is a good camera.
It is a good camera if you have a lot of Penatx lenses to use. I had
one but found the Pentax flash P-TTL oferings were much inferior ro
Nikon's equivalents. The selection of lenses specifically for the
Pentax DSLRs is pretty limited although apparently more are on the
way. The SR system works great and you can get really nice results
from RAW mode.if you want to spend some time with software. As
dpreview pointed out the jpg results aren't great. Overall it was a
tough call but I went to Nikon.
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>I will post some test photos with it next week i hope.
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> >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:04 am
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>>So then it's unfair to say that 'most' RAW workflow software won't
>>process K10D files.
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> Having rechecked, ACR support is not in the current version but in
> the next version, to be released later this month. Silkypix and Bibble
> supports it, but just recently. Last time I checked most of the
> others, like Rawshooter, DxO, SharpRAW, ACDSee and Picasa do not.
> Adobe Lightroom and Apple Aperture do not.
>
> At this point most raw processing software does not properly read K10D
> files. It's a good bet that all will eventually.
That's perfectly normal. Software developers are always playing catch-up
when it comes to decoding new RAW formats. It may take some weeks or it may
take some months, but eventually a new version of the software will be
released which supports the new format (as long as the software isn't dead
like RawShooter, and as long as the camera is sufficiently popular for there
to be a demand for it of course). >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:03 pm
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:12:53 +0100, "Ståle Sannerud"
<staale.sannerud.TakeThisOut@bibits.no> wrote:
>>>So then it's unfair to say that 'most' RAW workflow software won't
>>>process K10D files.
>>
>> Having rechecked, ACR support is not in the current version but in
>> the next version, to be released later this month. Silkypix and Bibble
>> supports it, but just recently. Last time I checked most of the
>> others, like Rawshooter, DxO, SharpRAW, ACDSee and Picasa do not.
>> Adobe Lightroom and Apple Aperture do not.
>>
>> At this point most raw processing software does not properly read K10D
>> files. It's a good bet that all will eventually.
>
>That's perfectly normal. Software developers are always playing catch-up
>when it comes to decoding new RAW formats. It may take some weeks or it may
>take some months, but eventually a new version of the software will be
>released which supports the new format (as long as the software isn't dead
>like RawShooter, and as long as the camera is sufficiently popular for there
>to be a demand for it of course).
>
I think many RAW processing software companies were waiting to see if
the K10D would be popular enough. Some have never developed for other
than Nikon and Canon. >> Stay informed about: should i buy a pentax k10d? |
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