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squelch41

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:54 pm
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Hi,

I am looking to scan a load of my old slides.
I was wondering whether it would be better to buy a cheap, new film
scanner or buy an older second hand scanner on ebay.

The question is - does the advance in technology form say a coolscan
III's era now mean that a budget new scanner produces as good/better
results or can those older scanners still hold their own?

I dont have a huge budget - around the £100-£150 mark.

Thanks
squelch41

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:39 am
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On Sep 28, 5:54 am, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to scan a load of my old slides.
> I was wondering whether it would be better to buy a cheap, new film
> scanner or buy an older second hand scanner on ebay.
>
> The question is - does the advance in technology form say a coolscan
> III's era now mean that a budget new scanner produces as good/better
> results or can those older scanners still hold their own?
>
> I dont have a huge budget - around the £100-£150 mark.

I guess you are in the UK since you give your budget in pounds. When
I was looking for a dedicated slide scanner I found that the current
Nikon models on ebay were going for not much less than the new price,
but of course without the warrantee and so on so I got a new one.
However, it was way out of your price bracket and I suspect that would
still be the case even for the older models - you have to look to
see, I bit the financial bullet and got a batch feeder on Ebay for
half the new price, as I had enough slides that hand-feeding them or
doing them 4 at a time would be very tedious. I also brought what was
then a *big* USB external HDD to store the scans on!

Some new flatbed scanners that I think are in your price range have
Digital ICE, which unless you are scanning Kodachrome does a terrific
job of getting rid of marks from dirt and scratches. However it
usually doesn't produce acceptable results with Kodachrome, so if you
have Kodachrome slides it won't help which is a pity since the older
card mounts seem to be constantly shedding bits of dust onto the
slides.... Mine are a mixture of Kodachrome and Fujichrome, plus I am
still taking Fujichrome from time to time.

Also, the Nikons require slides to be fed one by one unless you have a
model that accepts a batch feeder *and* you can get a feeder (which
don't come up often and blow the budget), so you might find a modern
flat-bed that allows you to scan more at once better for your
purposes.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:39 am
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On Sep 28, 12:54 am, wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to scan a load of my old slides.
> I was wondering whether it would be better to buy a cheap, new film
> scanner or buy an older second hand scanner on ebay.
>
> The question is - does the advance in technology form say a coolscan
> III's era now mean that a budget new scanner produces as good/better
> results or can those older scanners still hold their own?
>
> I dont have a huge budget - around the £100-£150 mark.
>
> Thanks
> squelch41


Older scanners can be a pain especially when they are SCSI connection
as I believe the Coolscan 3 is. This scanner is also very slow ans
doesn't have great ability with denser slides. Look at a Nikon LS2000
or even some later Epson flatbeds, V700/750 are the best, but an Epson
4990 is also a good unit. I find my V700 to be bedtter than the LS2000
I also have, very close but the edge is to the Epson. The 4990 isn't
quite as good as the V700. Better scanners would be the Nikon LS4000
(the LS5000 is way out price wise), or the Minolta 5400, or the
Minolta Scan Multi, but that is SCSI too.
Scanning is a long slow process, editing you images is paramount.
Good luck
Tom
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Jon B

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:40 pm
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wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking to scan a load of my old slides.
> I was wondering whether it would be better to buy a cheap, new film
> scanner or buy an older second hand scanner on ebay.
>
> The question is - does the advance in technology form say a coolscan
> III's era now mean that a budget new scanner produces as good/better
> results or can those older scanners still hold their own?
>
> I dont have a huge budget - around the £100-£150 mark.
>
The Epsons come well liked, especially if you can dind one with digital
ice which is now affordable on those.

for eg
<http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94119>
<http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/132646>

though the latter is slightly over budget at that store.
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
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squelch41

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:14 pm
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On Sep 29, 5:40 pm, black.h... RemoveThis @jonbradbury.com (Jon B) wrote:
> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I am looking to scan a load of my old slides.
> > I was wondering whether it would be better to buy a cheap, new film
> > scanner or buy an older second hand scanner on ebay.
>
> > The question is - does the advance in technology form say a coolscan
> > III's era now mean that a budget new scanner produces as good/better
> > results or can those older scanners still hold their own?
>
> > I dont have a huge budget - around the £100-£150 mark.
>
> The Epsons come well liked, especially if you can dind one with digital
> ice which is now affordable on those.
>
> for eg
> <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94119>
> <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/132646>
>
> though the latter is slightly over budget at that store.
> --
> Jon B
> Above email address IS valid.
> <http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

So generally it is felt that the newer flat beds that have film
adapters are better than the older dedicated scanners?
SCSI isnt too much of a problem for me as it is built into my laptop's
dock.

Thanks for your advice
squelch41
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:30 am
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<snip>
> The Epsons come well liked, especially if you can dind one with digital
> ice which is now affordable on those.
>
> for eg
> <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94119>
> <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/132646>
>
> though the latter is slightly over budget at that store.
<snip>

Just be aware that D-ICE doesn't work on b&w film, doesn't often
produce good results on Kodachrome, but is fantastic on Fujichrome.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:19 pm
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On Sep 30, 9:30 am, Cats wrote:
> <snip>> The Epsons come well liked, especially if you can dind one with digital
> > ice which is now affordable on those.
>
> > for eg
> > <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94119>
> > <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/132646>
>
> > though the latter is slightly over budget at that store.
>
> <snip>
>
> Just be aware that D-ICE doesn't work on b&w film, doesn't often
> produce good results on Kodachrome, but is fantastic on Fujichrome.

Luckily, nearly all mine are Fujichrome Wink
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:42 pm
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On Oct 1, 12:19 am, wrote:
> On Sep 30, 9:30 am, Cats wrote:
>
> > <snip>> The Epsons come well liked, especially if you can dind one with digital
> > > ice which is now affordable on those.
>
> > > for eg
> > > <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/94119>
> > > <http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/132646>
>
> > > though the latter is slightly over budget at that store.
>
> > <snip>
>
> > Just be aware that D-ICE doesn't work on b&w film, doesn't often
> > produce good results on Kodachrome, but is fantastic on Fujichrome.
>
> Luckily, nearly all mine are Fujichrome Wink

Having had a quick look. I'm not sure the suggested scanners have D-
ICE... They might have some other kind of scratch removal software,
check the specifications carefully before you buy if you are
exdpecting D-ICE. I have a feeling it might come in somewhat over
your budget.
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