Kodak Z612 Digital Camera

ASAAR wrote:

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> I
> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.


Hello, ASAAR:

C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
digicam?


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur DeleteThis @concentric.net>
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On 06 Feb 2007 00:08:11 EST, John Turco wrote:

>> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
>> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
>
>
> Hello, ASAAR:
>
> C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
> digicam?

More than enough to be *very* useful. It's a tremendous help when
you have several people speaking at the same time. The L & R
elements in my old Sony ECM-909 microphone provides a lot of easily
noticeable separation, and they're less than an inch apart. When
the same conversations are recorded in mono, intelligibility goes
down the drain. I suppose it's mostly due to the brain's ability to
narrowly focus on sounds appearing to come from specific locations,
ignoring sounds coming from surrounding locations, and it works
quite well. If the little digicam's sound is deficient in any area
it's probably not with its stereo ability but with it picking up
motor and finger noise. An external mic. eliminates most of this.
If you want to get a very nice mic., the ECM-907 replaced the 909
several years ago, and I think adds a mono position to the
wide/narrow stereo switch. It's not a "bowtie" clip-on type mic.,
but has a small pedestal and uses a single long lasting AA battery.
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John Turco wrote:
> Roy G wrote:
>
> <edited, for brevity>
>
>> Strange as it may seem, the God of the Big Yellow Box, does not make any
>> kind of Memory Card.
>>
>> They just get their Yellow Labels stuck on to someone elses card and charge
>> extra, because they know that a fair number of mugs will not know enough to
>> go and buy a card from one of the Companies who actually make them.
>>
>> Just like they told everyone in the days of film to only ever put Kodak Film
>> in their Cameras.
>>
>> So if you want to pay Kodak 3 times the price, on you go.
>>
>> I much prefer to put Lexar, Sandisc, or even PNY or Kingston in my Nikon.
>>
>> Roy G
>
>
> Hello, Roy:
>
> Kodak-branded memory cards are made by Lexar, as the "God of the Big
> Yellow Box" clearly states, on its packaging. :-J
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.TakeThisOut@concentric.net>

Yeah, but Kodak relabels them, and triples the price. Still, I recently
saw an ad for HP computers and cameras that wanted over $100 for a
512meg card.... And I suspect some people actually PAY that much....
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John Turco wrote:
> ASAAR wrote:
>
> <heavily edited, for brevity>
>
>> I
>> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
>> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
>
>
> Hello, ASAAR:
>
> C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
> digicam?
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.TakeThisOut@concentric.net>
About 3 inches? Grin.
Some to think about it, how much is available between your ears???
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ASAAR wrote:
> On 06 Feb 2007 00:08:11 EST, John Turco wrote:
>
>>> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
>>> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
>>
>> Hello, ASAAR:
>>
>> C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
>> digicam?
>
> More than enough to be *very* useful. It's a tremendous help when
> you have several people speaking at the same time. The L & R
> elements in my old Sony ECM-909 microphone provides a lot of easily
> noticeable separation, and they're less than an inch apart. When
> the same conversations are recorded in mono, intelligibility goes
> down the drain. I suppose it's mostly due to the brain's ability to
> narrowly focus on sounds appearing to come from specific locations,
> ignoring sounds coming from surrounding locations, and it works
> quite well. If the little digicam's sound is deficient in any area
> it's probably not with its stereo ability but with it picking up
> motor and finger noise. An external mic. eliminates most of this.
> If you want to get a very nice mic., the ECM-907 replaced the 909
> several years ago, and I think adds a mono position to the
> wide/narrow stereo switch. It's not a "bowtie" clip-on type mic.,
> but has a small pedestal and uses a single long lasting AA battery.
>
Our ears (active elements) are only 4 or 5 inches apart. The process of
stereo hearing takes place in the parallel processing elements in the
brain, and it is capable of some rather amazing results.
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John Turco wrote:
[]
> C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
> digicam?

The best stereo microphones have /zero/ separation, as they record sounds
coming from different directions.

David
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 00:08:06 -0500, John Turco wrote:

> Lou wrote:
>
> <heavily edited, for brevity>
>
>> Thank you and the other persons who responded so well and quickly toi
>> my Memory Card question on my new Kodak Z612. I love the pictures it
>> takes and now I, like all of you get the 1GB SD Card from any of the
>> local stores that run a good sale ... and thanks for the added clue
>> that Kodak just attaches it name to a SD Card (as other companies do
>> as well in their product lines).
>>
>> As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
>> "Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
>> so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.
>>
>> I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
>> definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
>> pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
>> Card all the better!!
>>
>> Thanks again for the good information!
>>
>> Lou
>
>
> Hello, Lou:
>
> Good luck! Being a big fan of Kodak digicams, myself, I'm confident that
> you'll be satisfied with the Z612.
>
> Incidentally, my local Wal-Mart recently started carrying "Impact" 1GB
> SD cards, at $19.74 USD, each; no sales events, nor rebates, needed.
>
> [Note: I'd bought one, at a different Wal-Mart store, a couple of months
> ago. Another shopper had thrown it into a clearance bin, apparently;
> lacking a price tag, I ran the Impact package's UPC under a bar scanner,
> which Wal-Mart had installed, for its customers' convenience.
>
> So, when it came up with $19.74, I mistakenly thought I'd stumbled upon
> a nice, juicy, closeout bargain! <g>]
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>

Interesting. I recall checking WM shortly before Thanksgiving. Manager
asked if he could help me find anything. I simply queried how come they
were selling 1gb SD cards for about $60 when OfficeMax and Staples had
them for about $25. He just shrugged and said it had to be the same brand
for them to price match. He asked what brand they were - I replied "who
cares?"
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Greetings Lou,

Just browsing through the group and noticed your post.

Just an FYI that your camera will work in a Z612 camera. Actually, you can
find out more about SD cards by going to:

http://www.sdcard.org

Truth is, it is not possible for Kodak to test all brands and sizes of
memory cards, but in general, all P, C, V, Z and ONE series Kodak EasyShare
digital cameras will work properly with 2GB SD memory cards except the
following models:

C300; C310; C315; C530; CD50; C330; CD33

These models will work properly with SD memory cards up to 1GB capacity.

DX and CX 7000, 6000, 4000, 3000 and LS 700, 600 and 400 series Kodak
EasyShare digital cameras were designed before 2GB cards were generally
available and have not been tested to work with 2GB memory cards.

If someone is reading this that is not sure, it might be a good idea to
bring along your camera when you go to the store and try the type of card
you are considering in your Kodak camera prior to purchasing. This way you
will know for sure.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company


"Lou" <louie_117 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98CA83AA16BE8garfieldanetcom@216.168.3.44...
>I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a Kodak
> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my cats and
> they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so I am
> using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory and I
> see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video clips, or
> a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card. I just
> looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards (Kodak
> brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes
> for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium"
> card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting
> married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding
> pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any
> thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Lou
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Ron Baird wrote:
> Greetings Lou,
>
> Just browsing through the group and noticed your post.
>
> Just an FYI that your camera will work in a Z612 camera. Actually, you can
> find out more about SD cards by going to:
>
> http://www.sdcard.org
>
> Truth is, it is not possible for Kodak to test all brands and sizes of
> memory cards, but in general, all P, C, V, Z and ONE series Kodak EasyShare
> digital cameras will work properly with 2GB SD memory cards except the
> following models:
>
> C300; C310; C315; C530; CD50; C330; CD33
>
> These models will work properly with SD memory cards up to 1GB capacity.
>
> DX and CX 7000, 6000, 4000, 3000 and LS 700, 600 and 400 series Kodak
> EasyShare digital cameras were designed before 2GB cards were generally
> available and have not been tested to work with 2GB memory cards.
>
> If someone is reading this that is not sure, it might be a good idea to
> bring along your camera when you go to the store and try the type of card
> you are considering in your Kodak camera prior to purchasing. This way you
> will know for sure.
>
> Talk to you soon,
>
> Ron Baird
> Eastman Kodak Company
>
>

I have no need for 2GB cards, but have tried a 1GB card in my DX6440.
It works fine, and says I can take 1400+ pictures with the card. Now I
can't image anyone wanting a 2GB card in that camera.
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:05:06 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:

> I have no need for 2GB cards, but have tried a 1GB card in my DX6440.
> It works fine, and says I can take 1400+ pictures with the card. Now I
> can't image anyone wanting a 2GB card in that camera.

If the DX6440 can't take videos, I'd tend to agree. Whether it
can or can't, with a 2GB card you'd have more than enough free space
to image a *lot* of the DX6440 owners that shoot videos.
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 20:05:06 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> I have no need for 2GB cards, but have tried a 1GB card in my DX6440.
>> It works fine, and says I can take 1400+ pictures with the card. Now I
>> can't image anyone wanting a 2GB card in that camera.
>
> If the DX6440 can't take videos, I'd tend to agree. Whether it
> can or can't, with a 2GB card you'd have more than enough free space
> to image a *lot* of the DX6440 owners that shoot videos.
>
The DX6440 does do videos, albeit with rather low resolution, and lack
of zoom during the capture. On a 1GB card one could capture about 45
minutes of video. More than adequate for 'clips'. For better (VGA
30fps), a larger card would be needed. Not on a DX6440. Wrong tool.
I like my DX6440, but for videos, my wife's C743 does MUCH better (VGA
30fps), and will handle a 2GB card, not that WE need one.
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Ron Hunter wrote:
>
> John Turco wrote:

<edited, for brevity

> > Kodak-branded memory cards are made by Lexar, as the "God of the Big
> > Yellow Box" clearly states, on its packaging. :-J
> >
> >
> > Cordially,
> > John Turco <jtur.TakeThisOut@concentric.net>
>
> Yeah, but Kodak relabels them, and triples the price.

Hello, Ron:

I never implied that Kodak doesn't plaster its own name, all over
its Lexar-supplied stuff.

[What is it about my "Kodak-branded" statement, which escapes your
grasp? <g>]

> Still, I recently
> saw an ad for HP computers and cameras that wanted over $100 for a
> 512meg card.... And I suspect some people actually PAY that much....

Getting stuck with a Hewlett-Packard digicam, at >any< price -- quite a
"shuttering thought," no? Only thing more depressing, would be Sigma
branching out into computers!


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.TakeThisOut@concentric.net>
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Ron Hunter wrote:
>
> ASAAR wrote:
> > On 06 Feb 2007 00:08:11 EST, John Turco wrote:
> >
> >>> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
> >>> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
> >>
> >> Hello, ASAAR:
> >>
> >> C'mon, man...how much stereo separation is possible, on a little
> >> digicam?
> >
> > More than enough to be *very* useful. It's a tremendous help when
> > you have several people speaking at the same time. The L & R
> > elements in my old Sony ECM-909 microphone provides a lot of easily
> > noticeable separation, and they're less than an inch apart. When
> > the same conversations are recorded in mono, intelligibility goes
> > down the drain. I suppose it's mostly due to the brain's ability to
> > narrowly focus on sounds appearing to come from specific locations,
> > ignoring sounds coming from surrounding locations, and it works
> > quite well. If the little digicam's sound is deficient in any area
> > it's probably not with its stereo ability but with it picking up
> > motor and finger noise. An external mic. eliminates most of this.
> > If you want to get a very nice mic., the ECM-907 replaced the 909
> > several years ago, and I think adds a mono position to the
> > wide/narrow stereo switch. It's not a "bowtie" clip-on type mic.,
> > but has a small pedestal and uses a single long lasting AA battery.
> >
> Our ears (active elements) are only 4 or 5 inches apart. The process of
> stereo hearing takes place in the parallel processing elements in the
> brain, and it is capable of some rather amazing results.


Hello, Ron:

You and ASAAR might be right; I guess I was thinking in terms of musical
recordings (and/or "Dolby Surround" movies, perhaps? <g>).


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
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