Kodak Z612 Digital Camera

"Lou" <louie_117.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a Kodak
> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my cats and
> they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so I am
> using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory and I
> see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video clips, or
> a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card. I just
> looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards (Kodak
> brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes
> for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium"
> card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting
> married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding
> pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any
> thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Lou

There is a standard set for SD memory cards set by the SD card association
(www.sdcard.org). Any memory card carrying the official SD logo and not
exceeding 2 GB of capacity should be compatible with your camera. Any place
selling digital cameras should have them. There is probably no advantage in
write speed with the Kodak Z - series camera when uyou use a so called "high
speed" version, recent standard SD cards are also relatively fast. Brands
known to be reliable include SanDisk, Samsung, Toshiba, Panasonic, Transcend
and a few others. Just look in local photo shops, supermarkets or drug
stores. You should be able to buy a brand name 1 GB SD card for around US$
20 a 2 GB at or below US$ 40.
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Lou wrote:
> I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a Kodak
> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my cats and
> they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so I am
> using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory and I
> see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video clips, or
> a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card. I just
> looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards (Kodak
> brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes
> for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium"
> card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting
> married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding
> pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any
> thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Lou

DON'T BUY THE KODAK CARDS!

Since you can, assuming you live in the US, find 1GB cards for under
$20, there is NO POINT in spending 3 or 4 times that for a card.
Believe me, there is no significant difference between the $20 card you
can buy at CVS pharmacy, and the card Kodak sells for $84 in your camera.
 >> Stay informed about: Kodak Z612 Digital Camera 

"Lou" <louie_117.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a Kodak
> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my cats and
> they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so I am
> using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory and I
> see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video clips, or
> a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card. I just
> looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards (Kodak
> brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes
> for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium"
> card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting
> married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding
> pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any
> thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Lou

Hi

Strange as it may seem, the God of the Big Yellow Box, does not make any
kind of Memory Card.

They just get their Yellow Labels stuck on to someone elses card and charge
extra, because they know that a fair number of mugs will not know enough to
go and buy a card from one of the Companies who actually make them.

Just like they told everyone in the days of film to only ever put Kodak Film
in their Cameras.

So if you want to pay Kodak 3 times the price, on you go.

I much prefer to put Lexar, Sandisc, or even PNY or Kingston in my Nikon.

Roy G
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Ron Hunter wrote:
> Lou wrote:
>> I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a
>> Kodak Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my
>> cats and they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak so
>> I am using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal memory
>> and I see that if I want to take a large number of pictures, video
>> clips, or a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory card.
>> I just looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory Cards
>> (Kodak brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the "Premium"
>> Card goes for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the extra $$$ for a
>> "Premium" card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son
>> is getting married soon and I'd like to use this camera for some extra
>> wedding pictures and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card.
>> Any thoughts or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
>> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lou
>
> DON'T BUY THE KODAK CARDS!
>
> Since you can, assuming you live in the US, find 1GB cards for under
> $20, there is NO POINT in spending 3 or 4 times that for a card. Believe
> me, there is no significant difference between the $20 card you can buy
> at CVS pharmacy, and the card Kodak sells for $84 in your camera.

Hi...

I'd respectfully suggest that the OP buy not one, but two cards.
Perhaps three if the budget allows.

Then during significant shoots, such as his boy's wedding, change cards
once in a while, preferably during a lull in each of the events.
(coming out of the church, shoot a few, change cards, and continue
shooting)

Just as it's unwise to put all of our eggs in one basket, it's also
unwise to put all of our pics in one card

Take care.

Ken
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Ken Weitzel wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>> Lou wrote:
>>> I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a
>>> Kodak Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my
>>> cats and they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by Kodak
>>> so I am using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an internal
>>> memory and I see that if I want to take a large number of pictures,
>>> video clips, or a combination of ... I will need to purchase a memory
>>> card. I just looked at Kodak and they have two available SD Memory
>>> Cards (Kodak brand) for 1GB. The one card goes for $69 and the
>>> "Premium" Card goes for $84. I was wondering whether to spen the
>>> extra $$$ for a "Premium" card or not. Anyone have the Kodak Z612
>>> Camera too? My Son is getting married soon and I'd like to use this
>>> camera for some extra wedding pictures and mocie clips so that is why
>>> I chose the 1GB Card. Any thoughts or suggestions on choosing a
>>> memory card would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance for any
>>> help!
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Lou
>>
>> DON'T BUY THE KODAK CARDS!
>>
>> Since you can, assuming you live in the US, find 1GB cards for under
>> $20, there is NO POINT in spending 3 or 4 times that for a card.
>> Believe me, there is no significant difference between the $20 card
>> you can buy at CVS pharmacy, and the card Kodak sells for $84 in your
>> camera.
>
> Hi...
>
> I'd respectfully suggest that the OP buy not one, but two cards. Perhaps
> three if the budget allows.
>
> Then during significant shoots, such as his boy's wedding, change cards
> once in a while, preferably during a lull in each of the events.
> (coming out of the church, shoot a few, change cards, and continue
> shooting)
>
> Just as it's unwise to put all of our eggs in one basket, it's also
> unwise to put all of our pics in one card
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken
And put the cards in a safe place. The little buggers are easy to lose!
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"Cgiorgio" <me.RemoveThis@nowhere.org> wrote in
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>
> "Lou" <louie_117.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:Xns98CA83AA16BE8garfieldanetcom@216.168.3.44...
>>I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a
>>Kodak
>> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my
>> cats and they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by
>> Kodak so I am using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an
>> internal memory and I see that if I want to take a large number
>> of pictures, video clips, or a combination of ... I will need to
>> purchase a memory card. I just looked at Kodak and they have two
>> available SD Memory Cards (Kodak brand) for 1GB. The one card
>> goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes for $84. I was wondering
>> whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium" card or not. Anyone
>> have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting married soon
>> and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding pictures
>> and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any thoughts
>> or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
>> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lou
>
> There is a standard set for SD memory cards set by the SD card
> association (www.sdcard.org). Any memory card carrying the
> official SD logo and not exceeding 2 GB of capacity should be
> compatible with your camera. Any place selling digital cameras
> should have them. There is probably no advantage in write speed
> with the Kodak Z - series camera when uyou use a so called "high
> speed" version, recent standard SD cards are also relatively fast.
> Brands known to be reliable include SanDisk, Samsung, Toshiba,
> Panasonic, Transcend and a few others. Just look in local photo
> shops, supermarkets or drug stores. You should be able to buy a
> brand name 1 GB SD card for around US$ 20 a 2 GB at or below US$
> 40.
>
>

Thank you and the other persons who responded so well and quickly toi
my Memory Card question on my new Kodak Z612. I love the pictures it
takes and now I, like all of you get the 1GB SD Card from any of the
local stores that run a good sale ... and thanks for the added clue
that Kodak just attaches it name to a SD Card (as other companies do
as well in their product lines).

As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
"Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.

I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
Card all the better!!

Thanks again for the good information!

Lou
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Lou wrote:
> "Cgiorgio" <me.RemoveThis@nowhere.org> wrote in
> news:epth81$96a$03$1@news.t-online.com:
>
>> "Lou" <louie_117.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>> news:Xns98CA83AA16BE8garfieldanetcom@216.168.3.44...
>>> I am a newbie to these new digital cameras and I just purchased a
>>> Kodak
>>> Z612 Digital Camera. I just did a couple trial pictures of my
>>> cats and they look beautiful!! This is an Easyshare Camera by
>>> Kodak so I am using the Easyshare Software. This camera has an
>>> internal memory and I see that if I want to take a large number
>>> of pictures, video clips, or a combination of ... I will need to
>>> purchase a memory card. I just looked at Kodak and they have two
>>> available SD Memory Cards (Kodak brand) for 1GB. The one card
>>> goes for $69 and the "Premium" Card goes for $84. I was wondering
>>> whether to spen the extra $$$ for a "Premium" card or not. Anyone
>>> have the Kodak Z612 Camera too? My Son is getting married soon
>>> and I'd like to use this camera for some extra wedding pictures
>>> and mocie clips so that is why I chose the 1GB Card. Any thoughts
>>> or suggestions on choosing a memory card would be much
>>> appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Lou
>> There is a standard set for SD memory cards set by the SD card
>> association (www.sdcard.org). Any memory card carrying the
>> official SD logo and not exceeding 2 GB of capacity should be
>> compatible with your camera. Any place selling digital cameras
>> should have them. There is probably no advantage in write speed
>> with the Kodak Z - series camera when uyou use a so called "high
>> speed" version, recent standard SD cards are also relatively fast.
>> Brands known to be reliable include SanDisk, Samsung, Toshiba,
>> Panasonic, Transcend and a few others. Just look in local photo
>> shops, supermarkets or drug stores. You should be able to buy a
>> brand name 1 GB SD card for around US$ 20 a 2 GB at or below US$
>> 40.
>>
>>
>
> Thank you and the other persons who responded so well and quickly toi
> my Memory Card question on my new Kodak Z612. I love the pictures it
> takes and now I, like all of you get the 1GB SD Card from any of the
> local stores that run a good sale ... and thanks for the added clue
> that Kodak just attaches it name to a SD Card (as other companies do
> as well in their product lines).
>
> As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
> "Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
> so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.
>
> I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
> definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
> pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
> Card all the better!!
>
> Thanks again for the good information!
>
> Lou

Lou,
I agree with the 'too many eggs in one basket' warning. Better two
1GB cards...
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On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:13:08 -0000, Lou wrote:

> As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
> "Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
> so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.
>
> I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
> definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
> pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
> Card all the better!!

In that case maybe you should find out if a slower card might
cause video problems. Two things to look out for are first, that if
a memory card is too slow to keep up, the saved video will have
occasional dropouts. A slower card will have even more dropouts.
The second problem I'd guess would be unlikely in a modern camera,
but some older ones the didn't use fast memory cards would create
dropout-free videos only until the camera's internal memory buffer
was full, and would then stop recording and save whatever video was
captured to that point, which might limit the video length to no
more than a couple of minutes, if that.

In other words, before shooting any videos that you won't have a
second chance at, make sure that the card you use is fast enough. I
noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:13:08 -0000, Lou wrote:
>
>> As I understand it from your response, the SD Card that is called a
>> "Premium Card" just stores the pics and videos faster and that is it
>> so I will stick to just a standard 1GB Card.
>>
>> I dont think the Kodak Z612 will take a 2GB Card but I will
>> definitely check that out. I plan to take a lot of video clips and
>> pictures at my Son's wedding later this year so if I can use the 2GB
>> Card all the better!!
>
> In that case maybe you should find out if a slower card might
> cause video problems. Two things to look out for are first, that if
> a memory card is too slow to keep up, the saved video will have
> occasional dropouts. A slower card will have even more dropouts.
> The second problem I'd guess would be unlikely in a modern camera,
> but some older ones the didn't use fast memory cards would create
> dropout-free videos only until the camera's internal memory buffer
> was full, and would then stop recording and save whatever video was
> captured to that point, which might limit the video length to no
> more than a couple of minutes, if that.
>
> In other words, before shooting any videos that you won't have a
> second chance at, make sure that the card you use is fast enough. I
> noticed that the Z612 also records stereo audio with its video,
> which is nice feature not shared by many cameras.
>

I can verify that situation (dropped frames) from personal experience.
I doubt many current cards would be too slow, however. As long as the
card is at least as fast as the camera can write, there should be no
problem, and the fastest cards are usually needed only for DSLR cameras.
 >> Stay informed about: Kodak Z612 Digital Camera 

On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:41:23 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:

> I can verify that situation (dropped frames) from personal experience.
> I doubt many current cards would be too slow, however. As long as the
> card is at least as fast as the camera can write, there should be no
> problem, and the fastest cards are usually needed only for DSLR cameras.

Video is more demanding than shooting long bursts of shots and
moderately fast cards that may be adequate for still photography may
still be too slow for video. Canon's manual for the A610/A620
indicates that video recording can continue uninterrupted until the
card is full or an individual clip uses 1GB of card memory,
whichever comes first. It also implies that the supplied memory
card is too slow (if not too small), adding:

> * Using super high-speed memory cards (SDC-512MSH recommended).

Nowhere do they say how fast this card is, or what speed is needed
to prevent problems, so if the camera owner wants to try a non-Canon
memory card, they do so at their own risk. What speed to you think
that Canon's "super high-speed memory" actually is? 20x, 40x, 60x
or really, *really* a lot faster? <g>
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"ASAAR" <caught.TakeThisOut@22.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:41:23 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> I can verify that situation (dropped frames) from personal experience.
>> I doubt many current cards would be too slow, however. As long as the
>> card is at least as fast as the camera can write, there should be no
>> problem, and the fastest cards are usually needed only for DSLR cameras.
>
> Video is more demanding than shooting long bursts of shots and
> moderately fast cards that may be adequate for still photography may
> still be too slow for video. Canon's manual for the A610/A620
> indicates that video recording can continue uninterrupted until the
> card is full or an individual clip uses 1GB of card memory,
> whichever comes first. It also implies that the supplied memory
> card is too slow (if not too small), adding:
>
>> * Using super high-speed memory cards (SDC-512MSH recommended).
>
> Nowhere do they say how fast this card is, or what speed is needed
> to prevent problems, so if the camera owner wants to try a non-Canon
> memory card, they do so at their own risk. What speed to you think
> that Canon's "super high-speed memory" actually is? 20x, 40x, 60x
> or really, *really* a lot faster? <g>
>
What is the cost of trying it out with a memory card you have in your
possession? Probably half a battery charge, and 1 of about 100.000 possible
read/write cycles on your card. The main problem with taking videos on a
still camera is that the optical zoom does not work with most still cameras,
which makes you end up with shorter video clips than what you would take on
a dedicated video cam. Also Mpeg4 - compression is rather lossy when you
have fast moving objects in your frame. I have tested taking video clips
with a few current digicams on standard SD - cards (1 - 2 GB) which did not
give any problems in 640 x 480 resolution, 30 fps with sound. Practically
all current SD cards are fast enough to cope with this. Some "antique" chips
were not, but they are no longer manufactured because they were also
occupying more Silicon real estate than current high capacity ones. Still
higher data rates than possible with the current memory chips can be
obtained by using more than one memory array and an interleaving operation,
which of course increases cost of such devices unless additional chips are
needed anyway for capacity reasons like in the SDHC cards and other memory
cards with 4 GB and more capacity. The camera interface has to support FAT32
file systems in order to use such capacities and there are only a few on the
market that do this so far.
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On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 10:54:14 +0100, Cgiorgio wrote:

>> Nowhere do they say how fast this card is, or what speed is needed
>> to prevent problems, so if the camera owner wants to try a non-Canon
>> memory card, they do so at their own risk. What speed to you think
>> that Canon's "super high-speed memory" actually is? 20x, 40x, 60x
>> or really, *really* a lot faster? <g>
>
> What is the cost of trying it out with a memory card you have
> in your possession?

Very little cost, but pointless, not only because I'm not
interested in using my cameras to take videos, but also because the
results I get with the cards in my Fuji or Canon cameras probably
won't be of much use to the OP who has a Kodak Z612. If I did any
testing it would probably be with the Fuji, and I'm sure that the
high speed Type H xD cards would be more than fast enough. The
standard xD card might be fast enough also, but my type M xD cards
may not, since from what I've heard they're supposed to be fairly
slow. Is anybody out there willing to fund these critical tests?
It will take hours of my oh so valuable time and the extra cash
could help speed up the purchase of my first DSLR. <g>
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 02:41:23 -0600, Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> I can verify that situation (dropped frames) from personal experience.
>> I doubt many current cards would be too slow, however. As long as the
>> card is at least as fast as the camera can write, there should be no
>> problem, and the fastest cards are usually needed only for DSLR cameras.
>
> Video is more demanding than shooting long bursts of shots and
> moderately fast cards that may be adequate for still photography may
> still be too slow for video. Canon's manual for the A610/A620
> indicates that video recording can continue uninterrupted until the
> card is full or an individual clip uses 1GB of card memory,
> whichever comes first. It also implies that the supplied memory
> card is too slow (if not too small), adding:
>
>> * Using super high-speed memory cards (SDC-512MSH recommended).
>
> Nowhere do they say how fast this card is, or what speed is needed
> to prevent problems, so if the camera owner wants to try a non-Canon
> memory card, they do so at their own risk. What speed to you think
> that Canon's "super high-speed memory" actually is? 20x, 40x, 60x
> or really, *really* a lot faster? <g>
>
Well, cards I see advertised range from 40x (cheap ones), to 133x
(rather more expensive). I have two of the 40x cards which seem to work
well in my wife's C743 that does 30fps VGA movies. Unfortunately, no
manufacturer I know of publishes max read/write specs for their camera
to card interface. I guess the only practical way way to determine if a
particular card is suitable is to try it and see if 'glitches' are
visible in a long (larger than internal memory) video. Sometimes the
old 'try it an see' method is the only practical one.
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