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Since: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:30 pm
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>periphs>printers, others (more info?)
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shnaggletooth.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>zakezuke wrote:
>> > I received a brand-new (refurbished? not sure) ip4000 Pixma tonight
>> > from Canon, even though my defective one was two weeks past warranty.
>> > And yes, it came with a new print head and new ink. So, thanks to this
>> > excellent customer service, my opinion on Canon has done a 180:
>> > (reversing my earlier, knee-jerk vow) I will definitely continue buying
>> > Canon products
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>> Cool beans... though technicaly we never ruled out your enviroment or
>> user as the cause of the issue. Well user is not likely unless you
>> were printing on cats or some such, more likely is power surge...
>> something that is always suspect. Given your oddball issue it would be
>> wise to check your surge protector.. if it blinks it means it's not
>> working and should be replaced. Many are not spendy, which is good as
>> they are ment to be kamikaze devices.
>>
>> Not saying it was the root cause, but it is a good printer, and worth a
>> few bucks to keep it protected in the unlikely event your MOV failed.
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>I'm kind of wondering about the cause myself. In the year I've had the
>ip4000, I probably printed a total of 70 pages, mostly just b/w text,
>and haven't used it in about three or four months. It's hooked up to an
>Electricord six-prong surge protector, which it shares with my
>computer, my computer speaker system (rarely turned on), a digital
>alarm clock and...er, a large, old, and energy-sucking air conditioner.
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>If a power surge is the culprit, then that air conditioner might be the
>problem; sometimes the lights in my apartment dim momentarily when the
>A/C periodically adjusts itself. (Though, the power to my printer was
>never turned on when I wasn't using it, so maybe it wasn't a power
>surge thing, after all.)
>
>Shnaggletooth
Air conditioners, especially the older type, have large "inrush" currents, this
is a very short lived current that occurs when the compressor starts that may
well be several times the normal operating current. So the advice given by Bob
Headrick and Zakezuke is sound.
Tony >> Stay informed about: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" |
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Since: Apr 17, 2006 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:52 pm
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> Wow you have a Kirby vacume and no AC? Those vacumes cost a small fortune.
> You must not live in Florida like me .. Living here without ac is very
> hot during the summer.
Those vacumes can be had used for much less... it's no big deal. But I
am in Washington. I don't know anyone with AC. There are only a few
days in the summer where it would be nice, but one could just install
an attic fan and be pretty much happy. >> Stay informed about: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" |
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Since: Oct 17, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:09 pm
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Wow you have a Kirby vacume and no AC? Those vacumes cost a small fortune.
You must not live in Florida like me  .. Living here without ac is very
hot during the summer.
- Mike
"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1145649741.654681.39700@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
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> Bob Headrick wrote:
>> <shnaggletooth.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1145633873.117545.33050@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > It's hooked up to an Electricord six-prong surge
>> > protector, which it shares with my computer, my
>> > computer speaker system (rarely turned on), a digital
>> > alarm clock and...er, a large, old, and
>> > energy-sucking air conditioner.
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>> I really *would not* plug an air conditioner into a surge protector, for
>> several reasons. The air conditioner may exceed the power rating of the
>> surge protector. The motor may generate various startup and shutdown
>> spikes of just the kind you are trying to protect your computer
>> equipment from. Lastly, an air conditioner is unlikely to gain any
>> benefit from a surge protector. Your printer and computer equipment
>> would likely be much happier on a separate circuit.
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> Agreed... I have had issues with a kirby vacuum on the same circuit, I
> can only imagine an air conditioner, don't own one. Even if it means
> investing in an extendtion cord, it would be wise to get these guys off
> the same circuit. Be sure it's grounded and is rated for at least the
> mount of watts your equipment is rated for. Be aware that some times
> jokers liked to cross wire electrical outlets, and a simple tester
> costing sub $5.00 can save you some heart ache.
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> Don't know if this is was your issue, but being paranoid will only cost
> you about $12.00 in your average hardware store.
> >> Stay informed about: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" |
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Since: Oct 04, 2005 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:17 pm
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"zakezuke" <zakezuke_us RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Wow you have a Kirby vacume and no AC? Those vacumes cost a small
>> fortune.
>> You must not live in Florida like me .. Living here without ac is very
>> hot during the summer.
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> Those vacumes can be had used for much less... it's no big deal. But I
> am in Washington. I don't know anyone with AC. There are only a few
> days in the summer where it would be nice, but one could just install
> an attic fan and be pretty much happy.
>
Sheesh, If responding, at least correct the spelling of vacuum. (The only
word in the English language with a double u in it.)
David >> Stay informed about: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" |
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Since: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 142
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:05 am
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 21 Apr 2006 08:37:53 -0700, shnaggletooth.RemoveThis@yahoo.com opined:
>I'm kind of wondering about the cause myself. In the year I've had the
>ip4000, I probably printed a total of 70 pages, mostly just b/w text,
>and haven't used it in about three or four months. It's hooked up to an
>Electricord six-prong surge protector, which it shares with my
>computer, my computer speaker system (rarely turned on), a digital
>alarm clock and...er, a large, old, and energy-sucking air conditioner.
Unplug your air-con from the surge protector! It's exactly the sort of
machine that your surge guard is trying to protect your electronic
stuff from! The back-EMF from the compressor will wear out MOV surge
guards very quickly, & will then start inflicting damage on the
delicate equipment. Jeez, no wonder your printer failed!
In general; anything with a mains-powered motor or a thermostat should
be run from a totally different outlet from anything electronic - even
better, a separate loop (ie; an outlet on a different fuse), if one is
available.
PS: I'm glad to hear that you had a good outcome from your call to
Canon.
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Since: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:57 pm
Post subject: Re: UPDATE: "Problem with Canon Pixma ip4000 printer" [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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