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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:02 pm
Post subject: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a backwater
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And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.
Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
2. HIGH quality lenses?
3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:55 pm
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"Rich" <rander3127 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
> 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
> 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
> 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
> 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
> an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.
>
> Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
> 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
> 2. HIGH quality lenses?
> 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>
> These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
> cell phone cams.
>
I remember wondering years ago, how far will digital cameras go. Now it
seems, in the point and shoot markets at least, they've gone right over the
hill. There are very few desirable models left. The feature set has
improved, but in their greedy interest of selling more cameras, the
manufacturers started packing pixels on yet smaller sensors to please the
unaware camera buying crowd.
Ha Ha! You thought a 1/2.5" sensor was small? Canon just announced 1/3", 6mp
gems!
I wonder what will happen to the dSLR market.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:55 am
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Rich wrote:
> And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
> 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
> 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
> 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
> 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look
> like an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the
> image.
>
> Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
> 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
> 2. HIGH quality lenses?
> 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>
> These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up
> from cell phone cams.
I'm sure you can still get the Nikon 8400 and 8700 should you wish - but
you're not actually interested are you? Just another troll, eh? >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:08 am
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"JohnR66" <nospam.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
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> "Rich" <rander3127.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1169600531.012559.186940@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>> And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
>> 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
>> 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
>> 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
>> 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
>> an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.
>>
>> Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
>> 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
>> 2. HIGH quality lenses?
>> 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>>
>> These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
>> cell phone cams.
>>
> I remember wondering years ago, how far will digital cameras go. Now it
> seems, in the point and shoot markets at least, they've gone right over
> the hill. There are very few desirable models left. The feature set has
> improved, but in their greedy interest of selling more cameras, the
> manufacturers started packing pixels on yet smaller sensors to please the
> unaware camera buying crowd.
>
> Ha Ha! You thought a 1/2.5" sensor was small? Canon just announced 1/3",
> 6mp gems!
Actually they are 5mp, but still the most densely packed CCDs in a digicam.
> I wonder what will happen to the dSLR market.
>
> John
>
> >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:56 am
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"Rich" <rander3127.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
> 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
> 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
> 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
> 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
> an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.
>
> Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
> 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
> 2. HIGH quality lenses?
> 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>
> These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up from
> cell phone cams.
Hi.
You do not have to go out and buy the highest Mp rated Camera available.
If you know better than the Sheep, pick one which is still reasonable, 4 or
5 Mp.
The Sheep don't, and never have known anything, about photography or
cameras, so the manufacturers take advantage of that.
Roy G >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:48 am
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On Jan 24, 3:59 am, "David J Taylor"
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> Rich wrote:
> > And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
> > 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
> > 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
> > 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
> > 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look
> > like an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the
> > image.
>
> > Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
> > 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
> > 2. HIGH quality lenses?
> > 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>
> > These new cloned silver boxes are a plague, only one small step up
> > from cell phone cams.I'm sure you can still get the Nikon 8400 and 8700 should you wish - but
> you're not actually interested are you? Just another troll, eh?
In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
P&S cameras.
If you don't like the message, put your head back in the sand. >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:50 pm
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On Jan 24, 5:04 pm, ASAAR <cau... DeleteThis @22.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:00:02 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:
> >> In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
> >> P&S cameras.
>
> > That's great - I haven't actually used that model, but I agree that the
> > 2/3-inch, 5MP cameras were, perhaps, the best compromise for the format Just in case you were referring to the C-8080, it has considerably
> more pixels than 5mp. 60% more in fact, and it had a lens that
> justified its 8mp sensor. All of those that tested it liked it a
> great deal, except for one illuminous, curmudgeonly reviewer. 
The same one who took "2000" images with the Leica M8 and never noticed
any problems with it. >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:56 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:04 pm
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:00:02 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:
>> In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of good
>> P&S cameras.
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> That's great - I haven't actually used that model, but I agree that the
> 2/3-inch, 5MP cameras were, perhaps, the best compromise for the format
Just in case you were referring to the C-8080, it has considerably
more pixels than 5mp. 60% more in fact, and it had a lens that
justified its 8mp sensor. All of those that tested it liked it a
great deal, except for one illuminous, curmudgeonly reviewer. >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:55 am
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ASAAR wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:00:02 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:
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>>> In fact I HAVE and Olympus C-8080 and only lament the passing of
>>> good P&S cameras.
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>> That's great - I haven't actually used that model, but I agree that
>> the 2/3-inch, 5MP cameras were, perhaps, the best compromise for the
>> format
>
> Just in case you were referring to the C-8080, it has considerably
> more pixels than 5mp. 60% more in fact, and it had a lens that
> justified its 8mp sensor. All of those that tested it liked it a
> great deal, except for one illuminous, curmudgeonly reviewer.
No, I was referring to the Nikon Coolpix 5400 and 5700. It was a pity
that that image stabilised long-zoom lens wasn't available until the Nikon
8800, which has an 8MP sensor. I have the 8MP 8400 with its 24mm
wide-angle, and I'm very pleased with it, but perhaps for my use 5MP would
be enough - most of the time. The lens justifies 8MP, though.
David >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:01 am
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"kinga202NOSPAM@hotmail.com" wrote:
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> On Jan 24, 12:02 pm, "Rich" <rander3....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And why DSLRs are dominating serious photography.
> > 1. Crappy little 1/2.5 sensor.
> > 2. Too many (7 meg) pixels crammed into the sensor.
> > 3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization "program" that just raises ISO.
> > 4. A completely unrealistic ISO 3200 mode that should either look like
> > an impressionist painting or coloured golf balls make up the image.
> >
> > Whatever a happened to P&S cameras with:
> > 1. Good quality 2/3rds sensors?
> > 2. HIGH quality lenses?
> > 3. Realistic ISO speed maximums?
>
> You can still get a great P&S that takes quality photos, u just have to
> make sure its a FujiFilm FinePix brand on it...F30 for instance.
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Hello, K202:
Ironically, however, Fuji is >the< prime example of a company, whose
digicams employ:
"3. a FAKE, PHONY image stabilization 'program' that just raises ISO."
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.DeleteThis@concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Pentax T30. Just one more example of why P&S is now a back.. |
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