[SI] "Bad Travel" Problems

"Alan Browne" wrote in message


On 2011.01.11 7:56 , Bowser wrote:
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> "tony cooper" wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:01:31 -0500, Bowser
> wrote:
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>> No, not another date or time change, just a question for
>> all the AFP
>> members here. I've been going through my travel photos,
>> and I'm having a
>> hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I didn't
>> realize how many
>> bad travel photos I had until I started looking for this
>> mandate.
>>
>> Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I
>> swear I could
>> increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter and
>> I'd still want
>> to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo of a
>> dog's grave,
>> anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I really did...
>
>
> I think you said, when announcing the mandate, that we
> were supposed
> to say why we thought it was bad and what we would have
> done
> differently. How? In the email submitting it, do we add
> lines of
> comment?
>
> =========================================
>
> Yes, put some lines in the email and I'll paste them into
> the photo's
> description.


I think that should be left for discussion. IAC, my phots
are in (ain't
archive nice) w/o description of the issues, those should be
evident enough.

=============================================

Fair enough. If you photos are obviously sucky then there's
no need to explain. Up to you.

And yes, archive is nice.
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:42:31 -0500, "Bowser" wrote:

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>"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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>On 2011.01.11 7:56 , Bowser wrote:
>>
>>
>> "tony cooper" wrote in message
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:01:31 -0500, Bowser
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No, not another date or time change, just a question for
>>> all the AFP
>>> members here. I've been going through my travel photos,
>>> and I'm having a
>>> hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I didn't
>>> realize how many
>>> bad travel photos I had until I started looking for this
>>> mandate.
>>>
>>> Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I
>>> swear I could
>>> increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter and
>>> I'd still want
>>> to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo of a
>>> dog's grave,
>>> anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I really did...
>>
>>
>> I think you said, when announcing the mandate, that we
>> were supposed
>> to say why we thought it was bad and what we would have
>> done
>> differently. How? In the email submitting it, do we add
>> lines of
>> comment?
>>
>> =========================================
>>
>> Yes, put some lines in the email and I'll paste them into
>> the photo's
>> description.
>
>
>I think that should be left for discussion. IAC, my phots
>are in (ain't
>archive nice) w/o description of the issues, those should be
>evident enough.
>
>=============================================
>
>Fair enough. If you photos are obviously sucky then there's
>no need to explain. Up to you.

My guess is that Alan will submit photos that would match or exceed
what the rest of us would find completely acceptable, but don't live
up to his standards. I can't imagine Alan taking an obviously sucky
photo, let alone keeping it on file.


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On Jan 11, 6:58 am, "Bowser" wrote:
> "otter"  wrote in message
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> On Jan 10, 3:11 pm, Savageduck
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> wrote:
> > On 2011-01-10 12:01:31 -0800, Bowser
> > said:
>
> > > No, not another date or time change, just a question for
> > > all the AFP
> > > members here. I've been going through my travel photos,
> > > and I'm having
> > > a hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I
> > > didn't realize how
> > > many bad travel photos I had until I started looking for
> > > this mandate.
>
> > > Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I
> > > swear I could
> > > increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter
> > > and I'd still
> > > want to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo
> > > of a dog's
> > > grave, anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I
> > > really did...
>
> > You are aware that the "Bad travel" shots was suggested as
> > a snipe at
> > John Sisker, who did his damage in alt.photography?
>
> > After enduring a year of the Sisker travel galleries let's
> > just keep it
> > at three. You wouldn't need to pick any of the shots you
> > took, just
> > pick any three Sisker shots from his years worth of
> > submissions.
>
> I'm going to be a LOT careful with my suggestions from now
> on.
>
> But, it is actually an intriguing category.  I kind of like
> Alan
> Browne's take.  Maybe something that is "bad" in some way,
> but
> otherwise slightly interesting.  Like, say, Barstow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4922867360/#/photos/billkes...
>
> ======================================================
>
> I was and am aware that it was posed as a joke, but I liked
> it! Something we can have some fun with, no question about
> it. And that Barstow shot is classic.

Probably wasted my best bad travel pic, but I posted it here before.
So I'll try to dig up something else.
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"otter" wrote in message

> On Jan 11, 6:58 am, "Bowser" wrote:
>> "otter" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 10, 3:11 pm, Savageduck
>>
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>> > On 2011-01-10 12:01:31 -0800, Bowser
>> > said:
>>
>> > > No, not another date or time change, just a question for
>> > > all the AFP
>> > > members here. I've been going through my travel photos,
>> > > and I'm having
>> > > a hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I
>> > > didn't realize how
>> > > many bad travel photos I had until I started looking for
>> > > this mandate.
>>
>> > > Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I
>> > > swear I could
>> > > increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter
>> > > and I'd still
>> > > want to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo
>> > > of a dog's
>> > > grave, anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I
>> > > really did...
>>
>> > You are aware that the "Bad travel" shots was suggested as
>> > a snipe at
>> > John Sisker, who did his damage in alt.photography?
>>
>> > After enduring a year of the Sisker travel galleries let's
>> > just keep it
>> > at three. You wouldn't need to pick any of the shots you
>> > took, just
>> > pick any three Sisker shots from his years worth of
>> > submissions.
>>
>> I'm going to be a LOT careful with my suggestions from now
>> on.
>>
>> But, it is actually an intriguing category. I kind of like
>> Alan
>> Browne's take. Maybe something that is "bad" in some way,
>> but
>> otherwise slightly interesting. Like, say,
>> Barstow:http://www.flickr.com/photos/billkeshlear/4922867360/#/photos/billkes...
>>
>> ======================================================
>>
>> I was and am aware that it was posed as a joke, but I liked
>> it! Something we can have some fun with, no question about
>> it. And that Barstow shot is classic.
>
> Probably wasted my best bad travel pic, but I posted it here before.
> So I'll try to dig up something else.

Be careful what you dig up: when I was a young person Barstow was on our
route to visit my parents' parents in Utah. I had nightmares about Barstow
at night for several years. Hope this doesn't dredge up whatever it was that
caused them.

I wonder if a loose interpretation of what is "bad" about travel is such a
good idea. We all know what travel pictures are, and probably have a pretty
good idea what "bad travel pictures" look like. I'm understanding the
pictures will be bad pictures about travel, not pictures about bad travel.
Eh?

Any too-convoluted logic trying to justify summat outside those bounds will
likely draw considerable badinage and persiflage, if not some downright
raillery.

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On 2011-01-11 20:04:49 -0800, "Frank ess" said:

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> "otter" wrote in message
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>> Jan 11, 6:58 am, "Bowser" wrote:

< Le Snip>

>>>
>>>
>>> I was and am aware that it was posed as a joke, but I liked
>>> it! Something we can have some fun with, no question about
>>> it. And that Barstow shot is classic.
>>
>> Probably wasted my best bad travel pic, but I posted it here before.
>> So I'll try to dig up something else.
>
> Be careful what you dig up: when I was a young person Barstow was on
> our route to visit my parents' parents in Utah. I had nightmares about
> Barstow at night for several years. Hope this doesn't dredge up
> whatever it was that caused them.

It is still the place of desolate nightmares, but better lit now.

>
> I wonder if a loose interpretation of what is "bad" about travel is
> such a good idea. We all know what travel pictures are, and probably
> have a pretty good idea what "bad travel pictures" look like. I'm
> understanding the pictures will be bad pictures about travel, not
> pictures about bad travel. Eh?

I see no reason why both concepts, or a combination of both would not
fit. I believe I have submitted shots of both types.

>
> Any too-convoluted logic trying to justify summat outside those bounds
> will likely draw considerable badinage and persiflage, if not some
> downright raillery.

Why not? We submitters for this mandate should have no complaint with
regard to comments on these shots as we have already labeled them as
"bad". The comments should truly be tongue in cheek.


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On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:46:51 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:
: On 2011-01-10 22:35:38 -0800, tony cooper said:
:
: > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:38:17 -0800, Savageduck
: > wrote:
: >
: >> On 2011-01-10 20:44:29 -0800, tony cooper said:
: >>
: >>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:01:31 -0500, Bowser wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> No, not another date or time change, just a question for all the AFP
: >>>> members here. I've been going through my travel photos, and I'm having a
: >>>> hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I didn't realize how many
: >>>> bad travel photos I had until I started looking for this mandate.
: >>>>
: >>>> Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I swear I could
: >>>> increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter and I'd still want
: >>>> to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo of a dog's grave,
: >>>> anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I really did...
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> I think you said, when announcing the mandate, that we were supposed
: >>> to say why we thought it was bad and what we would have done
: >>> differently. How? In the email submitting it, do we add lines of
: >>> comment?
: >>
: >> Hey! If it is bad I think it should be obvious to all why it is bad.
: >> Why would we have to spell out the obvious?
: >> Perhaps a few words regarding the circumstances of the shot.
: >
: > You know me, Duck. I always follow the rules. Bowser's instructions
: > said: "Tell us when and where you took it, and what went wrong."
:
: You have quoted a suggestion, not an instruction.
: All that is said on the "Rulzpage" is the following:
: "We all have them. Show us your travel shots that, well, don't meet
: National Geographic standards. NOTE: archive shots are accepted for
: this mandate!"
: < http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage >

Refresh my memory: Which one of you guys is the retired lawyer?

Bob
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On 2011-01-22 18:51:38 -0800, Robert Coe said:

> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 23:46:51 -0800, Savageduck
> wrote:
> : On 2011-01-10 22:35:38 -0800, tony cooper
> said:
> :
> : > On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:38:17 -0800, Savageduck
> : > wrote:
> : >
> : >> On 2011-01-10 20:44:29 -0800, tony cooper
> said:
> : >>
> : >>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:01:31 -0500, Bowser wrote:
> : >>>
> : >>>> No, not another date or time change, just a question for all the AFP
> : >>>> members here. I've been going through my travel photos, and I'm having a
> : >>>> hell of a time selecting just three. Honestly, I didn't realize how many
> : >>>> bad travel photos I had until I started looking for this mandate.
> : >>>>
> : >>>> Anyone else having trouble paring it down to three? I swear I could
> : >>>> increase the number of submissions to 100 per shooter and I'd still want
> : >>>> to add a few more. I guess when you've shot a photo of a dog's grave,
> : >>>> anything is possible for bad photos. Yes, I really did...
> : >>>
> : >>>
> : >>> I think you said, when announcing the mandate, that we were supposed
> : >>> to say why we thought it was bad and what we would have done
> : >>> differently. How? In the email submitting it, do we add lines of
> : >>> comment?
> : >>
> : >> Hey! If it is bad I think it should be obvious to all why it is bad.
> : >> Why would we have to spell out the obvious?
> : >> Perhaps a few words regarding the circumstances of the shot.
> : >
> : > You know me, Duck. I always follow the rules. Bowser's instructions
> : > said: "Tell us when and where you took it, and what went wrong."
> :
> : You have quoted a suggestion, not an instruction.
> : All that is said on the "Rulzpage" is the following:
> : "We all have them. Show us your travel shots that, well, don't meet
> : National Geographic standards. NOTE: archive shots are accepted for
> : this mandate!"
> : < http://www.pbase.com/shootin/rulzpage >
>
> Refresh my memory: Which one of you guys is the retired lawyer?
>
> Bob

Neither of us.
You will have to speak to Peter N. to get a ruling on that.

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Savageduck
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tony cooper wrote:

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> >All that is said on the "Rulzpage" is the following:
> >"We all have them. Show us your travel shots that, well, don't meet
> >National Geographic standards. NOTE: archive shots are accepted for
> >this mandate!"
>
> It was an order from Obergruppenführer Bowser. He didn't say
> "Please".


Please, leave poor "Bowser" alone...Wolfgang Weisselberg is RPD's
resident stormtrooper.

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