Canon SD1000 and Linux

Matt wrote:

> Would I be able to read or even write the SD cards through an SD slot
> using Linux, without special drivers?

No problem with a typical USB card reader under Linux (I use a Lexar one,
which works splendidly)
I use this card reader under SuSE Linux 9.3, and the JPEG files are
viewed/processed in various ways.

> Would I be able to format an SD card appropriately using Linux?

Why not format the card inside the camera, *if* it is needed?

Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux, this company has non-existent
support for this operating system (why they don't just implement the Mass
Storage Protocol or even PTP, is beyond me).

Cheers,
N.F.
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Matt wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Thinking of buying a Canon SD1000 ...
>
> Could I expect to use an SD1000 with Linux and gPhoto approximately as
> well as I could use it with Windows and the Canon software?

Looks like yes (see the 6th bullet in "PTP2 driver" section):
http://www.gphoto.org/news/

And, from experience, camera<->Linux works, IMHO, better than in Windows.

>
> Would I be able to read or even write the SD cards through an SD slot
> using Linux, without special drivers?

Yes. I do this all the time (though I use an external card reader
connected to the USB port, but yours is essentially the same thing as
this). You will get the card auto-detected, auto-mounted and opened in a
window or via a camera detection application, depending on your
preferences on your system.

>
> Would I be able to format an SD card appropriately using Linux?

Sure. It is just memory, you can format it in whatever filesystem you
like, even ext3! However, I have never felt the need to. I might have
formatted an old 32 MB flash card though, that somebody didn't need
anymore and gave it to me. IIRC, there was a problem in its filesystem
and I formatted in Linux as vfat and started using it in a camera
without any problem. But usually, I format my cards within the camera.

Good luck,
->HS


>
> Thanks.
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Nick Fotis wrote:

> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux

That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able to
plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our photos.
For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.

hth
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:26:16 +0000, sid wrote:

> Nick Fotis wrote:
>
>> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux
>
> That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able to
> plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our photos.
> For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.
>
> hth

Lucky you. But it's 'in spite of' canon rather than 'because of' canon -
their linux support is non-existent.
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H.S. wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Thinking of buying a Canon SD1000 ...
>>
>> Could I expect to use an SD1000 with Linux and gPhoto approximately as
>> well as I could use it with Windows and the Canon software?
>
> Looks like yes (see the 6th bullet in "PTP2 driver" section):
> http://www.gphoto.org/news/
>
> And, from experience, camera<->Linux works, IMHO, better than in Windows.


Yes, and
http://www.infoborder.com/Digital_Cameras/Canon/powershot_sd1000.php
lists these items under "CONNECTIVITY":

> • USB 2.0 Hi-Speed (Mini-B, MTP, PTP)
> • AV out

However the SD1000 specification page at the Canon website does not
mention PTP:
http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategor...=145&mo
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Matt wrote:
> H.S. wrote:
>> Matt wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Thinking of buying a Canon SD1000 ...
>>>
>>> Could I expect to use an SD1000 with Linux and gPhoto approximately as
>>> well as I could use it with Windows and the Canon software?
>>
>> Looks like yes (see the 6th bullet in "PTP2 driver" section):
>> http://www.gphoto.org/news/
>>
>> And, from experience, camera<->Linux works, IMHO, better than in Windows.
>
>
> Yes, and
> http://www.infoborder.com/Digital_Cameras/Canon/powershot_sd1000.php
> lists these items under "CONNECTIVITY":
>
>> • USB 2.0 Hi-Speed (Mini-B, MTP, PTP)
>> • AV out
>
> However the SD1000 specification page at the Canon website does not
> mention PTP:
> http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategor...=145&mo

Okay, the specifications on page 137 of the SD1000 Advanced Camera User
Guide mentions MTP and PTP as "Communications Settings". I'm taking
that to mean that the camera will work with gPhoto.

Thanks to all for your replies.
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sid wrote:
> Nick Fotis wrote:
>
>> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux
>
> That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able to
> plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our photos.
> For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.
>
> hth

That seems to be consistent with the mention of PTP and MTP in the
specifications of the SD1000 Advanced Camera User Manual.

Thanks for your help.
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ray <ray RemoveThis @zianet.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:26:16 +0000, sid wrote:

>> Nick Fotis wrote:
>>
>>> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux
>>
>> That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able to
>> plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our photos.
>> For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.

> Lucky you. But it's 'in spite of' canon rather than 'because of' canon -
> their linux support is non-existent.

They don't need to support linux, all they need to do is to support
standard system independent file and directory formats, and these days
Micros**t systems are grown up enough that you can be doing that
without even realising it. Some MP3 players that come free in
cornflake packets do it.

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sid wrote:

> Nick Fotis wrote:
>
>> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux
>
> That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able
> to plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our
> photos. For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.
>
Well, this has nothing to do with official Canon support.
I suspect that you can 'see' these cameras *despite* Canon's ignorance of
Linux.
Old Olympus P&S I used since 2004 were using the Mass Storage Protocol, and
my then-current Linux box was working like a charm - something that didn't
happen with any Canon cameras I have tried during that era towards 2006.

Maybe Canon has improved in this aspect for non-Windows platforms, but again
I wouldn't expect remote control via USB (most probably it's
reverse-engineered).

Cheers,
N.F.
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Matt wrote:
>
> Okay, the specifications on page 137 of the SD1000 Advanced Camera User
> Guide mentions MTP and PTP as "Communications Settings". I'm taking
> that to mean that the camera will work with gPhoto.
>

At any rate, I would ask the reseller to verify explicitly that this camera
will work under Linux. Even if Canon refuses to explicitly endorse or not
the camera, they will listen to your 'customer remark'.

At worst, you can use a card reader and be done with that (that would save
also wear and tear on the USB mini-connector in the camera)

N.F.
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Nick Fotis wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> Okay, the specifications on page 137 of the SD1000 Advanced Camera User
>> Guide mentions MTP and PTP as "Communications Settings". I'm taking
>> that to mean that the camera will work with gPhoto.
>>
>
> At any rate, I would ask the reseller to verify explicitly that this camera
> will work under Linux.

ha ha, as if anyone I could reach at newegg would have a clue about it.

> Even if Canon refuses to explicitly endorse or not
> the camera, they will listen to your 'customer remark'.

that's a good one

It'll work.
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Matt wrote:

> that's a good one
>
> It'll work.

There's no need to be sarcastic.

Sometime (maybe even in 2007), the heads in Canon HQ will take the message
that there are other platforms than Windows. After all, there are business
data that mention Linux having the second market share behind Windows and
in front of MacOS X. And maybe in the server market, things are not-so-rosy
for Windows.

But if you do explicitly ask them 'Does it work with Linux?', and implying
that you *may* get your business elsewhere, THAT will cause even the most
bored and uninterested retailer to take notice (at least in the USA, it
seems to work, compared to Greece, where customer protection is still in
its infancy).

Hope that you get my drift. If enough customers ask 'does it work under
Linux?', every supplier will have to get a positive answer, if they do not
want to risk losing customers.

Cheers,
N.F.
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Nick Fotis wrote:
> sid wrote:
>
>> Nick Fotis wrote:
>>
>>> Do not expect Canon to be 'seen' from Linux
>> That's funny, both my A95 and my 350D and my daughters A540 are all able
>> to plug into our linux boxes and use various programs to download our
>> photos. For example, Gthumb, DigiKam, Gphoto to name but three.
>>
> Well, this has nothing to do with official Canon support.
> I suspect that you can 'see' these cameras *despite* Canon's ignorance of
> Linux.
> Old Olympus P&S I used since 2004 were using the Mass Storage Protocol, and
> my then-current Linux box was working like a charm - something that didn't
> happen with any Canon cameras I have tried during that era towards 2006.

What Canon cameras have you tried with Linux? As I mention elsewhere,
the Advanced guide for the SD1000 (IXUS 70) claims that the camera
implements PTP and MTP. Maybe you didn't have the right software (e.g.
gphoto2) installed on your Linux system. I notice that gphoto2 does not
come standard on (e.g.) Ubuntu 7.04---you have to fetch it from a
non-Ubuntu repository.

>
> Maybe Canon has improved in this aspect for non-Windows platforms, but again
> I wouldn't expect remote control via USB (most probably it's
> reverse-engineered).
>
> Cheers,
> N.F.
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