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Greg Loriman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:55 am
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Hi folks,

As you may have seen in a previous post from me I am struggling to make a
decision between 3 cameras, one of which is 28mm ultra-compact (I am looking
for a small camera), the FX01.

However it occurred to me that for room shots (without people) I may be able
to get away with stitching. Has anyone ever tried this? The images would
probably only be used on the web. Obviously its not a perfect solution, but
it might be workable. Any opinions (and reasons, of course)?

If this is a possible solution then perhaps I can dismiss the FX01 in favour
of the TZ1 and the F30.

Greg


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:55 am
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Greg Loriman wrote:
> However it occurred to me that for room shots (without people) I may be able
> to get away with stitching. Has anyone ever tried this? The images would
> probably only be used on the web. Obviously its not a perfect solution, but
> it might be workable. Any opinions (and reasons, of course)?

Yes, it *might* be workable but:
1. These types of cameras are not renowned for rectilinearity in their
lenses, so your stitching will be made difficult.

2. As you will usually have foreground and background objects in the
images, rotating the camera around the optical centre becomes *very*
important - so you will have more stitching problems unless you
get/make a proper pano head.

3. If you use flash lighting, you will quickly discover that these
cameras are also not renowned for good/even illumination at wide angle
settings. Natural or off camera lighting should be ok, if you can do
it...

4. Well...there are probably other issues that haven't occurred to me
but it's late here... I'm sure someone else will chime in.

All of that is ameliorated somewhat by the web-images criteria...
Faults that might be obvious at large sizes will be much less obvious
at websize.

(Far be it from me to point out that this is the sort of thing that
would have helped on the other thread... (OWink

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:55 am
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Greg Loriman wrote:
> Thanks for the answer. Presumably you haven't actually tried this?
I have done a couple of interior stitchups, but only with an MF and a
35mm film SLR, and in both cases I didn't use on camera flash. The
rest of my answer is fairly common knowledge, and I do have a
reasonable amount of experience with outdoor landscape panoramas of the
stitched variety. I don't do a lot of them, but I know *how* to do
them and what the problems are, especially when using less than ideal
equipment.

> > (Far be it from me to point out that this is the sort of thing that
> > would have helped on the other thread... (OWink
>
> I had no specific questions to ask, and I was looking for unspecific
> answers.

Hmmmmm. I'm sorry for not getting it. I still don't. But let's move
on. (O;

> BTW, out of interest do you consider yourself politically left, right or
> liberal?
I don't go much for pigeonholing people, but somewhat left I guess.
However, I despair of the current political 'attitude' from *all* sides
of politics and believe things are going downhill at the moment - I
await a new movement worth supporting but see little evidence of that
happening in the immediate future. Is all that in some way important?

> And what does your rather obscure smiley mean?
It means exactly what bongo said - I'm genuinely trying to help and
trying to get you to realise that my perhaps terse comments were not
intended to insult you. I suggest you take things a little more
lightly, and concentrate on the issues and solutions. If you think my
information is flawed or not relevant, please say so, with reasons..
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:55 am
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<mark.thomas.7.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Greg Loriman wrote:
>> However it occurred to me that for room shots (without people) I may be
>> able
>> to get away with stitching. Has anyone ever tried this? The images would
>> probably only be used on the web. Obviously its not a perfect solution,
>> but
>> it might be workable. Any opinions (and reasons, of course)?
>
> Yes, it *might* be workable but:

[snip]

Thanks for the answer. Presumably you haven't actually tried this?

> (Far be it from me to point out that this is the sort of thing that
> would have helped on the other thread... (OWink

I had no specific questions to ask, and I was looking for unspecific
answers.

BTW, out of interest do you consider yourself politically left, right or
liberal?

And what does your rather obscure smiley mean?

Greg
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:55 am
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"Greg Loriman" <do DeleteThis @not.reply> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> <mark.thomas.7 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157713126.236473.22160@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Greg Loriman wrote:
>>> However it occurred to me that for room shots (without people) I may be
>>> able
>>> to get away with stitching. Has anyone ever tried this? The images would
>>> probably only be used on the web. Obviously its not a perfect solution,
>>> but
>>> it might be workable. Any opinions (and reasons, of course)?
>>
>> Yes, it *might* be workable but:
>
> [snip]
>
> Thanks for the answer. Presumably you haven't actually tried this?
>
>> (Far be it from me to point out that this is the sort of thing that
>> would have helped on the other thread... (OWink
>
> I had no specific questions to ask, and I was looking for unspecific
> answers.
>
> BTW, out of interest do you consider yourself politically left, right or
> liberal?
>
> And what does your rather obscure smiley mean?
>
> Greg
>

the smilie is saying that the previouse sentence was said as a friend and
not as a dig at someone.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:05 am
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Greg Loriman wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> As you may have seen in a previous post from me I am struggling to make a
> decision between 3 cameras, one of which is 28mm ultra-compact (I am looking
> for a small camera), the FX01.
>
> However it occurred to me that for room shots (without people) I may be able
> to get away with stitching. Has anyone ever tried this? The images would
> probably only be used on the web. Obviously its not a perfect solution, but
> it might be workable. Any opinions (and reasons, of course)?
> Greg Lorriman
Stitching is a great way to get room shots, and don't dismiss getting
shot with people too fast it is much easier then you might think.

This is a shot I took when we had people over last Thanksgiving, it
takes a bit of care when shooting for this king of shot but not all
that much.
http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/66506306/original

What you will need if you want the final image to stitch without some
misalignment between photos is a pano head, this allows you to rotate
the camera around the nodal point of the lens and thus avoid parallax
problems. You also need to use a good stitching programs, I use
PTGui, there are other good ones out there.

BTW photo I gave a link to is distorted because it is an extreme
wide-angle shot, you can also stitch for a non-distorted shot but then
you are limited in your field of view.

Scott
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:55 pm
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<mark.thomas.7 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Greg Loriman wrote:
>> Thanks for the answer. Presumably you haven't actually tried this?
> I have done a couple of interior stitchups, but only with an MF and a
> 35mm film SLR, and in both cases I didn't use on camera flash. The
> rest of my answer is fairly common knowledge, and I do have a
> reasonable amount of experience with outdoor landscape panoramas of the
> stitched variety. I don't do a lot of them, but I know *how* to do
> them and what the problems are, especially when using less than ideal
> equipment.

Thanks for that.

>> BTW, out of interest do you consider yourself politically left, right or
>> liberal?
> I don't go much for pigeonholing people, but somewhat left I guess.
> However, I despair of the current political 'attitude' from *all* sides
> of politics and believe things are going downhill at the moment - I
> await a new movement worth supporting but see little evidence of that
> happening in the immediate future. Is all that in some way important?

No, but I like my convictions to be confirmed.

>> And what does your rather obscure smiley mean?
> It means exactly what bongo said - I'm genuinely trying to help and
> trying to get you to realise that my perhaps terse comments were not
> intended to insult you.

I didn't think you were trying to insult me. The smiley makes no difference
to the unpleasantness of insufferable busybodies telling other people how
they should think and behave, and then calling on majority behaviour to
justify themselves. Yuk!

> I suggest you take things a little more
> lightly, and concentrate on the issues and solutions. If you think my
> information is flawed or not relevant, please say so, with reasons..

From that last little paragraph I can't imagine our budding friendship will
be terribly fruitful. Lets just not communicate. Over and out.
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