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Since: Nov 28, 2006 Posts: 268
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:56 am
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:19 pm
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Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the product.
There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any other
ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do not know
the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted usenet
announcements of other photography products. Is it only my impression that
he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his 'reviews'?
"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
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> I've just posted my review of the Freedom tripod Ballhead: >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:56 am
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"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler.RemoveThis@abc.net> wrote in message
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> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the
product.
> There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any other
> ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do not know
> the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted usenet
> announcements of other photography products. Is it only my impression that
> he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his 'reviews'?
It certainly seems that way to me too. Paid per "click through" I imagine,
and is simply trying to drive people to the web site. In fairness though,
it's quite a common practice. Some of his information is reasonably useful,
and it doesn't cost anything to look.
MrT. >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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Since: Sep 23, 2005 Posts: 175
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:41 am
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Happy Traveler wrote:
> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the product.
> There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any other
> ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do not know
> the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted usenet
> announcements of other photography products. Is it only my impression that
> he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his 'reviews'?
>
Yup, the php script imbedded in the link is a clue somebody is tracking
mouse clicks, though we still don't know why.
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jer
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Since: Nov 28, 2006 Posts: 268
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:56 pm
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No, I do not earn anything from the people I review. Look at the code
and you will see a straight link to Freedom. The clickthrough tracking
is on the ads on the side, google and amazom ads, nothing to do with the
article.
I put in the review what I could. I did not feel I had more to say, so I
did not. It was not a comparison review. I may do one of those in future
but this was just a straight writeup on the product I have been using. I
had no problems with it over several months of heavy use, so what more
could I say beyond the main features and my experience? If you would
care to post your more extensive review of ballheads I would be
interested in reading it.
I cross post because it is relevant to a number of groups and there are
those who prefer this to individual posting.
Cheers,
Wayne
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
Happy Traveler wrote:
> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the product.
> There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any other
> ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do not know
> the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted usenet
> announcements of other photography products. Is it only my impression that
> he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his 'reviews'?
>
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne.DeleteThis@dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:463f1e89$0$24092$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> I've just posted my review of the Freedom tripod Ballhead:
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> >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:56 pm
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> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet police. They
> click on your links, read your stuff, then complain about it or analyze
> your motives. I don't care about your motives or wasting time trying to
> figure out your angle. That has nothing to do with the content.
I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to narrow
the choices down to something that will work for me. There are dozen
manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging from less than $50 to
$500 or more for a seemingly identical product. And on the manufacturers'
sites lots of mumbo jumbo about the vast superiority of their
super-fine-grain, accurate-to the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited
erbium-titanium-niobium finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one
that he'd just purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than
impressed. It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just three
or four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I noticed Mr.
Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find some useful
information. Might have been OK for one of those postings that people put by
the hundreds on store sites about their personal experience with a product
they had just purchased, but that's it. For something purporting to be a
review in a professional publication it was a disappointment. What else
should I say? >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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Since: Nov 28, 2006 Posts: 268
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:56 pm
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Read the code. The click through tracking is ONLY on the google, amazon
and the small ads on the sidebar of some pages. The link to Freedom
reads as "<a target="_blank"
href="http://www.freedomballhead.com/">http://www.freedomballhead.com/</a>".
That is a straight link. Perhaps you, MrT and HappyTraveller should
actually check things before you are so quick to slander someone who is
just doing what he can.
Criticism of a review is fine. If you can do better, I'd love to read
them. But some people seem to just bag others when they contribute
nothing useful themselves.
For the record, I earn money off of my sites from advertising, Google
and Amazon. That is it. In 10+ years of journalism in print and online I
have never written a story for a kickback from the company. No smart
person who wants to stay in journalism does that. Now if a company whose
products I review wants to put paid ads on the site, that's fine but I
still write a review on what I believe is the case, not on what they
want to hear. You can believe this or not.
Cheers,
Wayne
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
Jer wrote:
> Happy Traveler wrote:
>> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
>> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the
>> product. There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to
>> any other ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise.
>> I do not know the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific
>> cross-posted usenet announcements of other photography products. Is it
>> only my impression that he is collecting a commission for each viewing
>> of his 'reviews'?
>>
>
> Yup, the php script imbedded in the link is a clue somebody is tracking
> mouse clicks, though we still don't know why.
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> >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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Since: Nov 28, 2006 Posts: 268
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:56 pm
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Sorry, one more thing, and this may be what you are seeing:
I do add to a count of pageviews in my database for individual articles.
I use this only for the Top 10 Articles panel which is now only
displayed on the home page. I do this because my web stats facility from
the hosting company doesn't track the database accesses. This
information is NEVER provided to anyone and, interestingly, no one has
ever asked for it either. Potential advertisers only ask for numbers of
unique viewers per month, and country breakdown, which the web stats
provide.
Cheers,
Wayne
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
Wayne J. Cosshall wrote:
> Read the code. The click through tracking is ONLY on the google, amazon
> and the small ads on the sidebar of some pages. The link to Freedom
> reads as "<a target="_blank"
> href="http://www.freedomballhead.com/">http://www.freedomballhead.com/</a>".
> That is a straight link. Perhaps you, MrT and HappyTraveller should
> actually check things before you are so quick to slander someone who is
> just doing what he can.
>
> Criticism of a review is fine. If you can do better, I'd love to read
> them. But some people seem to just bag others when they contribute
> nothing useful themselves.
>
> For the record, I earn money off of my sites from advertising, Google
> and Amazon. That is it. In 10+ years of journalism in print and online I
> have never written a story for a kickback from the company. No smart
> person who wants to stay in journalism does that. Now if a company whose
> products I review wants to put paid ads on the site, that's fine but I
> still write a review on what I believe is the case, not on what they
> want to hear. You can believe this or not.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
> http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
> Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
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>
>
> Jer wrote:
>> Happy Traveler wrote:
>>> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
>>> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the
>>> product. There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to
>>> any other ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise.
>>> I do not know the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific
>>> cross-posted usenet announcements of other photography products. Is
>>> it only my impression that he is collecting a commission for each
>>> viewing of his 'reviews'?
>>>
>>
>> Yup, the php script imbedded in the link is a clue somebody is
>> tracking mouse clicks, though we still don't know why.
>>
>> >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:07 pm
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"Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
news:4640e7eb$0$29697$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> No, I do not earn anything from the people I review. Look at the code and
> you will see a straight link to Freedom. The clickthrough tracking is on
> the ads on the side, google and amazom ads, nothing to do with the
> article.
>
> I put in the review what I could. I did not feel I had more to say, so I
> did not. It was not a comparison review. I may do one of those in future
> but this was just a straight writeup on the product I have been using. I
> had no problems with it over several months of heavy use, so what more
> could I say beyond the main features and my experience? If you would care
> to post your more extensive review of ballheads I would be interested in
> reading it.
>
> I cross post because it is relevant to a number of groups and there are
> those who prefer this to individual posting.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
> http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
> Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
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>
>
> Happy Traveler wrote:
>> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
>> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the
>> product. There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any
>> other ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do
>> not know the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted
>> usenet announcements of other photography products. Is it only my
>> impression that he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his
>> 'reviews'?
>>
>> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
>> news:463f1e89$0$24092$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>> I've just posted my review of the Freedom tripod Ballhead:
>>
I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet police. They
click on your links, read your stuff, then complain about it or analyze your
motives. I don't care about your motives or wasting time trying to figure
out your angle. That has nothing to do with the content. >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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Since: May 08, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:57 pm
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"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler.TakeThisOut@abc.net> wrote in message
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>> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet police. They
>> click on your links, read your stuff, then complain about it or analyze
>> your motives. I don't care about your motives or wasting time trying to
>> figure out your angle. That has nothing to do with the content.
>
>
> I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to narrow
> the choices down to something that will work for me. There are dozen
> manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging from less than $50
> to $500 or more for a seemingly identical product. And on the
> manufacturers' sites lots of mumbo jumbo about the vast superiority of
> their super-fine-grain, accurate-to the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited
> erbium-titanium-niobium finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one
> that he'd just purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than
> impressed. It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just
> three or four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I
> noticed Mr. Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find
> some useful information. Might have been OK for one of those postings that
> people put by the hundreds on store sites about their personal experience
> with a product they had just purchased, but that's it. For something
> purporting to be a review in a professional publication it was a
> disappointment. What else should I say?
>
I think you said way too much. If you don't like what you read hit the
button for the "next message" and move on. Have you learned the two most
important things in life ? 1/ it's an imperfect world 2/ do not be easily
annoyed. I am violating #2 right now by feeling and spreading more
annoyance. I will stop now !
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:57 pm
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policy_wonk wrote:
> "Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler RemoveThis @abc.net> wrote in message
> news:AtmdnScDF7JcktzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet
>>> police. They click on your links, read your stuff, then complain
>>> about it or analyze your motives. I don't care about your motives
>>> or wasting time trying to figure out your angle. That has nothing
>>> to do with the content.
>>
>>
>> I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to
>> narrow the choices down to something that will work for me. There
>> are dozen manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging
>> from less than $50 to $500 or more for a seemingly identical
>> product. And on the manufacturers' sites lots of mumbo jumbo about
>> the vast superiority of their super-fine-grain, accurate-to
>> the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited erbium-titanium-niobium
>> finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one that he'd just
>> purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than
>> impressed.
>> It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just three
>> or
>> four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I noticed
>> Mr. Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find
>> some
>> useful information. Might have been OK for one of those postings
>> that people put by the hundreds on store sites about their personal
>> experience with a product they had just purchased, but that's it.
>> For something purporting to be a review in a professional
>> publication it was a disappointment. What else should I say?
>
> I think you said way too much. If you don't like what you read hit
> the button for the "next message" and move on. Have you learned the
> two most important things in life ? 1/ it's an imperfect world 2/ do
> not be easily annoyed. I am violating #2 right now by feeling and
> spreading more annoyance. I will stop now !
I doubt it. You have too much of the preacher in you.
The way things get polished is through contact with abrasives. Wayne
tries to do a good job, and sometimes he comes up a bit short. From
what I've seen, he makes changes when appropriately criticized.
If Mr HT clicks on by and says nothing, Wayne doesn't have the
opportunity to respond to the abrasion, either by refuting or by
shaping up his act.
Who is served by that?
--
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:56 pm
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"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler RemoveThis @abc.net> wrote in message
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>> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet police. They
>> click on your links, read your stuff, then complain about it or analyze
>> your motives. I don't care about your motives or wasting time trying to
>> figure out your angle. That has nothing to do with the content.
>
>
> I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to narrow
> the choices down to something that will work for me. There are dozen
> manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging from less than $50
> to $500 or more for a seemingly identical product. And on the
> manufacturers' sites lots of mumbo jumbo about the vast superiority of
> their super-fine-grain, accurate-to the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited
> erbium-titanium-niobium finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one
> that he'd just purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than
> impressed. It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just
> three or four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I
> noticed Mr. Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find
> some useful information. Might have been OK for one of those postings that
> people put by the hundreds on store sites about their personal experience
> with a product they had just purchased, but that's it. For something
> purporting to be a review in a professional publication it was a
> disappointment. What else should I say?
>
I am astounded that your built-in measurement gauge compares ballheads from
$50 to $500 and finds them "seemingly identical product". Also to see your
assessment of the manufacturers' specs reduced to a hyperbolic dissertation
on some sort of mythical material leaves me wondering whether or not you
know what you are looking for or if it even exists.
Put your usage needs into a clear request and I'm sure you will get many
suggestions.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:20 pm
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I don't have an issue with people criticizing an article, just the
approach that was used. In fact the article is no worse than most such
reviews in camera magazines. Now if the original critic had simply asked
if I could do a more exhaustive, comparative review of a number of the
main ball heads, I would have been contacting the suppliers in 10
minutes of reading it to get them in for review.
Cheers,
Wayne
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
Frank ess wrote:
> policy_wonk wrote:
>> "Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler.TakeThisOut@abc.net> wrote in message
>> news:AtmdnScDF7JcktzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet
>>>> police. They click on your links, read your stuff, then complain
>>>> about it or analyze your motives. I don't care about your motives
>>>> or wasting time trying to figure out your angle. That has nothing
>>>> to do with the content.
>>>
>>>
>>> I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to
>>> narrow the choices down to something that will work for me. There
>>> are dozen manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging
>>> from less than $50 to $500 or more for a seemingly identical
>>> product. And on the manufacturers' sites lots of mumbo jumbo about
>>> the vast superiority of their super-fine-grain, accurate-to
>>> the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited erbium-titanium-niobium
>>> finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one that he'd just
>>> purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than impressed.
>>> It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just three or
>>> four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I noticed
>>> Mr. Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find some
>>> useful information. Might have been OK for one of those postings
>>> that people put by the hundreds on store sites about their personal
>>> experience with a product they had just purchased, but that's it.
>>> For something purporting to be a review in a professional
>>> publication it was a disappointment. What else should I say?
>>
>> I think you said way too much. If you don't like what you read hit
>> the button for the "next message" and move on. Have you learned the
>> two most important things in life ? 1/ it's an imperfect world 2/ do
>> not be easily annoyed. I am violating #2 right now by feeling and
>> spreading more annoyance. I will stop now !
>
> I doubt it. You have too much of the preacher in you.
>
> The way things get polished is through contact with abrasives. Wayne
> tries to do a good job, and sometimes he comes up a bit short. From what
> I've seen, he makes changes when appropriately criticized.
>
> If Mr HT clicks on by and says nothing, Wayne doesn't have the
> opportunity to respond to the abrasion, either by refuting or by shaping
> up his act.
>
> Who is served by that?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:21 pm
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Thanks.
Cheers,
Wayne
Wayne J. Cosshall
Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
policy_wonk wrote:
> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
> news:4640e7eb$0$29697$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> No, I do not earn anything from the people I review. Look at the code and
>> you will see a straight link to Freedom. The clickthrough tracking is on
>> the ads on the side, google and amazom ads, nothing to do with the
>> article.
>>
>> I put in the review what I could. I did not feel I had more to say, so I
>> did not. It was not a comparison review. I may do one of those in future
>> but this was just a straight writeup on the product I have been using. I
>> had no problems with it over several months of heavy use, so what more
>> could I say beyond the main features and my experience? If you would care
>> to post your more extensive review of ballheads I would be interested in
>> reading it.
>>
>> I cross post because it is relevant to a number of groups and there are
>> those who prefer this to individual posting.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> Wayne J. Cosshall
>> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/
>> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
>> Publisher, Experimental Digital Photography
>> http://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
>> Personal art site http://www.cosshall.com/
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>>
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>> Happy Traveler wrote:
>>> Mr. Cosshall's review of the Freedom ballhead is shallow and conveys
>>> practically no information, except for his warm endorsement of the
>>> product. There is almost no hard data and no comparison whatsoever to any
>>> other ballhead on the market; feature, price or performance-wise. I do
>>> not know the gentleman, but have seen his other prolific cross-posted
>>> usenet announcements of other photography products. Is it only my
>>> impression that he is collecting a commission for each viewing of his
>>> 'reviews'?
>>>
>>> "Wayne J. Cosshall" <wayne RemoveThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote in message
>>> news:463f1e89$0$24092$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> I've just posted my review of the Freedom tripod Ballhead:
> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet police. They
> click on your links, read your stuff, then complain about it or analyze your
> motives. I don't care about your motives or wasting time trying to figure
> out your angle. That has nothing to do with the content.
>
> >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:26 am
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On May 9, 7:20�am, "Wayne J. Cosshall" <w... DeleteThis @dimagemaker.com> wrote:
> I don't have an issue with people criticizing an article, just the
> approach that was used. In fact the article is no worse than most such
> reviews in camera magazines. Now if the original critic had simply asked
> if I could do a more exhaustive, comparative review of a number of the
> main ball heads, I would have been contacting the suppliers in 10
> minutes of reading it to get them in for review.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wayne
>
> Wayne J. Cosshall
> Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker,http://www.dimagemaker.com/
> Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/
> Publisher, Experimental Digital Photographyhttp://www.experimentaldigitalphotography.com
> Personal art sitehttp://www.cosshall.com/
>
>
>
> Frank ess wrote:
> > policy_wonk wrote:
> >> "Happy Traveler" <happy_trave... DeleteThis @abc.net> wrote in message
> >>news:AtmdnScDF7JcktzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>> I think you are wasting print on those self appointed usenet
> >>>> police. They click on your links, read your stuff, then complain
> >>>> about it or analyze your motives. I don't care about your motives
> >>>> or wasting time trying to figure out your angle. That has nothing
> >>>> to do with the content.
>
> >>> I intend to purchase a ballhead and have desperately been trying to
> >>> narrow the choices down to something that will work for me. There
> >>> are dozen manufacturers, hundreds of models, with prices ranging
> >>> from less than $50 to $500 or more for a seemingly identical
> >>> product. And on the manufacturers' sites lots of mumbo jumbo about
> >>> the vast superiority of their super-fine-grain, accurate-to
> >>> the-last-angstrom, electro-deposited erbium-titanium-niobium
> >>> finish... A coworker let me try an expensive one that he'd just
> >>> purchased (I won't mention the brand) and I was less than impressed.
> >>> It's a very confusing topic, and the local stores have just three or
> >>> four models of a single brand to put my hands on. So when I noticed
> >>> Mr. Cosshall's link to a review, I jumped on it, hoping to find some
> >>> useful information. Might have been OK for one of those postings
> >>> that people put by the hundreds on store sites about their personal
> >>> experience with a product they had just purchased, but that's it.
> >>> For something purporting to be a review in a professional
> >>> publication it was a disappointment. What else should I say?
>
> >> I think you said way too much. If you don't like what you read hit
> >> the button for the "next message" and move on. Have you learned the
> >> two most important things in life ? 1/ it's an imperfect world 2/ do
> >> not be easily annoyed. I am violating #2 right now by feeling and
> >> spreading more annoyance. I will stop now !
>
> > I doubt it. You have too much of the preacher in you.
>
> > The way things get polished is through contact with abrasives. Wayne
> > tries to do a good job, and sometimes he comes up a bit short. From what
> > I've seen, he makes changes when appropriately criticized.
>
> > If Mr HT clicks on by and says nothing, Wayne doesn't have the
> > opportunity to respond to the abrasion, either by refuting or by shaping
> > up his act.
>
> > Who is served by that?- Hide quoted text -
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Standard reply, one I use often on DPReview: tell the complainer to
ask for his money back.
Too much free material warps people, I think. DPReview is always
getting criticized for not doing enough reviews, not doing the reviews
the way that particular reader would like, having a terrible layout,
upwards and onwards.
That's one of the reasons I don't put very much current material up on
my web site. I don't have the patience to wade through the people who
can do it better, will do it better, know someone who can do it
better, and who never do it at all. >> Stay informed about: Review of Freedom Ballhead Model FB-12QR |
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