If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer

Robert Coe wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:40:30 -0700, "Patrick L" <notso.RemoveThis@fast.com> wrote:
> :
> : "Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
> : news:13cs6ovm4lbbq8c@news.supernews.com...
> : > Which camera would he choose, a 40D or D200?
> : >
> : > Rita
> :
> : They don't make lefty cameras.
>
> All kidding aside, that's something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
> anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people? It wouldn't
> matter to me one way or the other, since I'm almost ambidextrous. But I could
> imagine that some lefties might have difficulty getting used to a right-handed
> camera.

I'm a lefty (handedness, eyeness, and political views), but I've never
had a problem using cameras. It's a matter of what I started with and am
used to. I used to have left-handed scissors, but not having seen a pair
for years I'm fine with normal scissors now. Can openers, same way. I
can't use a right-handed hockey stick or baseball glove, however.
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

"Robert Coe" <bob.DeleteThis@1776.COM> wrote

> something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
> anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people ...

I said it before (on May 20th, 2007 at 9:37 am)
and I'll say it again:

The Exakta cameras are considered 'left handed' because
the wind lever and the shutter release are operated by
the left hand.

This is a misconception as this left-handed camera was
specifically designed for right-handers: Exakta was the
only company to make a serious study of what side to
put the release and wind lever. They found the right
hand was able to hold the camera steadier, better at
supporting the weight, especially with long lenses,
and was better suited to focusing the camera
accurately and quickly. Pushing the shutter button
and stroking the advance lever took no dexterity
and these actions were relegated to the left hand.

I find supporting and focusing a monster lens
with my left hand to be, literally, a pain.

As Sigsev mentions, all modern cameras are
really best suited for left-handed photographers.

It is the majority of us that should be complaining
about the lack of cameras for right-handed people.


--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:00:21 +0100, Steve Wolstenholme
<steve.RemoveThis@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote:
: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:37:58 -0400, Robert Coe <bob.RemoveThis@1776.COM> wrote:
:
: >All kidding aside, that's something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
: >anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people? It wouldn't
: >matter to me one way or the other, since I'm almost ambidextrous. But I could
: >imagine that some lefties might have difficulty getting used to a right-handed
: >camera.
: >
: >Bob
:
: What makes a camera right or left handed? I'm left handed but I can't
: think of anything on my cameras that would be improved if I was right
: handed.

On virtually all cameras, one operates the shutter button and most of the
important option-setting buttons with the right hand. The manufacturers must
think that that's how the right-handed 75% of the population would prefer it.
At least they must have thought that at one time; I suppose that by now it
could be mostly tradition.

I think I could get used to it either way, since I have pretty good
coordination in both hands. (I'm even indifferent to which side of the
keyboard the mouse is on.) But since my right eye is stronger, I might need an
add-on eyepiece to use a left-handed camera properly.

Obviously most left-handed people learn to use a right-handed camera. I just
wondered if any of them have found it to be a problem. Now that I think about
it, my dad was left-handed, and I don't remember him complaining because his
cameras were right-handed.

Bob
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:37:58 -0400, Robert Coe <bob.RemoveThis@1776.COM> wrote:

>All kidding aside, that's something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
>anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people? It wouldn't
>matter to me one way or the other, since I'm almost ambidextrous. But I could
>imagine that some lefties might have difficulty getting used to a right-handed
>camera.
>
>Bob

What makes a camera right or left handed? I'm left handed but I can't
think of anything on my cameras that would be improved if I was right
handed.

Steve

--
Steve Wolstenholme Neural Planner Software Ltd

EasyNN-plus. The easy way to build neural networks.

http://www.easynn.com
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
news:13cs6ovm4lbbq8c@news.supernews.com...
> Which camera would he choose, a 40D or D200?
>
> Rita
Sharpton wouldn't take any picture except his own, so I don't think it
matters much. But, in the world of cons, I think he's without peer.
Peerless? Anyway, the best. He even got the best of O'Reilly a couple of
weeks ago. Imagine Guiliani without Sharpton to pull his covers? Guiliani
is the biggest thief and liar to ever hit NYC, and he's running on that,
like he's proud of it. Without Sharpton, he would have left it worse than he
did. Sharpton is prolly guilty on all counts, but where would we be without
him.? Bob Hickey
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 08:07:22 -0700, Pat <groups DeleteThis @artisticphotography.us> wrote:
: On Aug 25, 10:28 am, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s... DeleteThis @sig.com> wrote:
: > "Robert Coe" <b... DeleteThis @1776.COM> wrote
: >
: > > something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
: > > anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people ...
: >
: > I said it before (on May 20th, 2007 at 9:37 am)
: > and I'll say it again:
: >
: > The Exakta cameras are considered 'left handed' because
: > the wind lever and the shutter release are operated by
: > the left hand.
: >
: > This is a misconception as this left-handed camera was
: > specifically designed for right-handers: Exakta was the
: > only company to make a serious study of what side to
: > put the release and wind lever. They found the right
: > hand was able to hold the camera steadier, better at
: > supporting the weight, especially with long lenses,
: > and was better suited to focusing the camera
: > accurately and quickly. Pushing the shutter button
: > and stroking the advance lever took no dexterity
: > and these actions were relegated to the left hand.
: >
: > I find supporting and focusing a monster lens
: > with my left hand to be, literally, a pain.
: >
: > As Sigsev mentions, all modern cameras are
: > really best suited for left-handed photographers.
: >
: > It is the majority of us that should be complaining
: > about the lack of cameras for right-handed people.
: >
: > --
: > Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
: > Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Metershttp://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm
: > n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
:
: For once, a post I agree with.
:
: I'm left handed. My left hand is stronger, more dexterous, etc. I
: grew up shooting fully manual cameras. I always thought of them as
: being left handed. The right hand pushed the shutter and wound the
: film -- how hard is that? The left hand set the aperature and
: focused. Focusing a manual camera on a moving targets takes some
: coordination -- esp. while also holding up the camera. As one held
: the weight of the camera on one's palm, the fingertips adjusted the
: exposure (aperature), focus, and later the zoom. Meanwhile the right
: hand did nothing but trip the shutter and wind the film -- nbd.
:
: I always thought that cameras were one of the few things in life that
: were truly left-handed.

A French horn is another. And manual-shift automobiles in countries with the
steering wheel on the right.

Bob
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

Robert Coe wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:32:30 -0400, "mark_digital©" <976-XXX.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
> wrote:

>
> Well, he's a lot smarter than George W. Bush.
>
> Bob

What's the big deal about that. I turn on the light in the kitchen at
night, the cockroaches scattering are a lot smarter than George W. Bush.
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

In article <i280d31uukd7tl9kk6hvtijrvj4u9n9o49 DeleteThis @4ax.com>, Robert Coe
<bob DeleteThis @1776.COM> wrote:

> All kidding aside, that's something I've wondered about occasionally. Does
> anyone make cameras adapted to accommodate left-handed people? It wouldn't
> matter to me one way or the other, since I'm almost ambidextrous. But I could
> imagine that some lefties might have difficulty getting used to a right-handed
> camera.

Most of us lefties have grown up in a right-handed world and have made
the necessary accommodations. As others have said, the "handedness" of
cameras is not a problem - using our dexterous :-> hand to focus and
set aperture works out just fine.

My biggest problem with manual cameras has been being left-eyed. Often
the winding lever is poking my right eye as I peer through the
pentaprism with my left eye; and if the winder wasn't in my eye, my
thumb was. Winding the film required moving the camera off my face,
while righties just flipped away without taking their eye off the
viewfinder. With todays auto everything cameras, handedness is no
longer a problem as far as I'm concerned.

The best left-handed camera I've ever used was the old Nikonos I, II,
and III model. In fact, I think it was the most ergonomic camera I've
ever used. I used to buy them second, third, or fourth hand (they were
old and outdated) and use them not only for snorkeling, but for my
carry-around camera for snapshots. And the film advance lever cum
shutter release was on the front of the camera under my right index
finger. No having to move the camera to advance the film and take the
next photo - just two quick presses: one to take the photo, the next to
wind the film. Absolutely wonderful after using winders on the back of
the camera.

They were made for hyperfocal focusing, and with the f/16 rule, getting
acceptable exposures was generally no problem, so it was very close to
automatic operation but taking some thought, which made me slow down
enough to make a picture instead of taking one.

--
Phil Stripling | email to the replyto address is presumed
The Civilized Explorer | spam and read later. email from this URL
http://www.cieux.com/ | http://www.civex.com/ is read daily.
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

An unrealistic hypothetical. He'd never be one. Too much like honest work.


"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
news:13cs6ovm4lbbq8c@news.supernews.com...
> Which camera would he choose, a 40D or D200?

Neither. The biggest TV camera at the scene is the one he chooses to parade
in front of. He has no interest in pictures of anyone else.

Neil
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

"Robert Coe" <bob.RemoveThis@1776.COM> wrote in message
news:kd70d3hk2qvjtikg54r4jonpi7aq1hu4hq@4ax.com...

> : >
> : > Don't be fooled, Al lives pretty high on the hog. He just has no
> money
> : > "on record". He's a first class con man.
> :
> : True. And that's all he is.
> : ----------------------------
> : Besides being a boob.
>
> Well, he's a lot smarter than George W. Bush.

If that's really what you think, he's sure a lot smarter than you.
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

"Charles" <ckraft DeleteThis @SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:ovnuc31rh3330up02jrmdd220k5hliehfv@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:13:34 -0400, "Peter A. Stavrakoglou"
> <ntotrr DeleteThis @optonline.net> wrote:
>
>>"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:13cuiifkmkjug99@news.supernews.com...
>>> Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't be fooled, Al lives pretty high on the hog. He just has no
>>>> money "on record". He's a first class con man.
>>>
>>> So does Jesse Jackson. I've been in his house down by Howard University
>>> and
>>> I must say that keeping racism alive and well in America really pays
>>> off.
>>
>>Yes it does pay off. They have no interest in seeing racism stopped
>>(although they find it in places it doesn't exist). Those two guys are
>>poverty pimps, they have a vested interest in seeing the supposed racism
>>they cry about continue so their gravy train can keep rolling.
>>
>>Jesse Jackson is another con man. Some "minister of the Lord" he is. He
>>got tossed out of one college for plagiarism and fathered a child from an
>>adulterous affair. What an example.
>>
> How racist of you to notice.

<guffaw!>

Indeed, that's Jesse Jackson's working definition of "racist" -- anyone who
*notices* anything he does that happens to be sleazy or dishonest.

Therefore, from Jackson's point of view there are only two kinds of
people -- the "racist" and the stupid. As long as there are plenty of the
latter, the old Chicago shakedown artist will continue to thrive.

Neil
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:07:52 -0400, Neil Harrington wrote:

> Neither. The biggest TV camera at the scene is the one he chooses to parade
> in front of. He has no interest in pictures of anyone else.

Hmm. Then you probably wouldn't care much for Rudy Giuliani.
He's known for that, and even got rid of one of the city's most
effective police commissioners because Bill Bratton was getting too
much good press, pushing Der Rudy to the back pages.

[ Notice the subtle reference to Der Bush? ]
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer 

Robert Coe wrote:
> A French horn is another. And manual-shift automobiles in countries with the
> steering wheel on the right.

You must be right eyed. A friend of mine who is right handed, but left
eyed, has to either use a camera with a winder, or remove the camera
from her face to wind it.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel gsm.RemoveThis@mendelson.com N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/
 >> Stay informed about: If Rev. Al Sharpton Were A Photographer