Resolution or ratio set first?

"Wes" <BellevueNE.DeleteThis@Yahoo.Com> wrote in message
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> Hello Jim,
>
> Are you familiar with the computer program "Thumbs Plus Pro". This program
> allows for resize (resolution or sizes). It will also allow for triming to
> ratio, the 16:9 ratio my digital frame uses.
>
> So you are saying:
>
> 1. Set the resolution to 900x500 first.
> 2. Then do the trim to fit?
>
> Thanks
No, Wes, I know nothing of Thumbs Plus Pro. I gave an answer which fits
Photoshop.
I also interpreted 900x500 to be the dimensions of the image in pixels.
That is, it is 900 pixels wide by 500 pixels tall.
That is a very small image by the way.
By resolution, I mean the pixels per inch for the printer.
Perhaps what you are doing is creating a thumbnail because at the usual
setting for a print of no more than 300 pixels per inch, the
printed output would be 3 inches wide by 1.67 inches tall (i. e. rather
tiny).
In any case, what you need to do is to resize the image such that you can
crop to a 16:9 format. You may or may not need to interpolate.
Jim
> "Jim" <j.n.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Wes" <BellevueNE.DeleteThis@Yahoo.Com> wrote in message
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>>> Good day,
>>>
>>> I hope this question makes sense....
>>>
>>> I have digital picture frame. The resolution is 900x500. After reading a
>>> lot of comments by other people concerning this frame on www.buy.com it
>>> turns out that the picture ratio is 16:9 (HDTV).
>>>
>>> Here is my question: Should I set the resolution first or the ratio? Or
>>> does it even make a difference? I do take some pictures in raw format
>>> and the pictures can be 6meg or so.
>>>
>>> I want to thank you ahead of time for helping,
>>>
>>> Wes
>> You first enable the Rulers.
>> Then you enable "fit on screen"
>> Next you set the resolution.
>> Finally, you enable "Maintain Aspect Ratio", execute.
>>
>> If the resulting image would be too small, you then set the desired
>> resolution, enable resize, and select the interpolation method.
>>
>> If the resulting image is too large in one direction or the other, then
>> you must crop to fit the frame.
>> You will need to crop unless your camera takes the shot in 16:9 format.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first? 

I've found that having an extra-high resolution helps hide JPEG
artifacts. Purchase a big RAM card and let the picture frame do the
resampling.

There's no need to manually crop unless some images aren't coming out
right.



In article <%skAi.55695$rH6.13862@newsfe22.lga>,
"Wes" <BellevueNE DeleteThis @Yahoo.Com> wrote:

> Good day,
>
> I hope this question makes sense....
>
> I have digital picture frame. The resolution is 900x500. After reading a lot
> of comments by other people concerning this frame on www.buy.com it turns
> out that the picture ratio is 16:9 (HDTV).
>
> Here is my question: Should I set the resolution first or the ratio? Or does
> it even make a difference? I do take some pictures in raw format and the
> pictures can be 6meg or so.
>
> I want to thank you ahead of time for helping,
>
> Wes
 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first? 

On Aug 26, 11:40 pm, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmur... DeleteThis @dslextreme.com> wrote:
> I've found that having an extra-high resolution helps hide JPEG
> artifacts. Purchase a big RAM card and let the picture frame do the
> resampling.
>
> There's no need to manually crop unless some images aren't coming out
> right.
>
> In article <%skAi.55695$rH6.13...@newsfe22.lga>,
>
> "Wes" <Bellevu... DeleteThis @Yahoo.Com> wrote:
> > Good day,
>
> > I hope this question makes sense....
>
> > I have digital picture frame. The resolution is 900x500. After reading a lot
> > of comments by other people concerning this frame onwww.buy.comit turns
> > out that the picture ratio is 16:9 (HDTV).
>
> > Here is my question: Should I set the resolution first or the ratio? Or does
> > it even make a difference? I do take some pictures in raw format and the
> > pictures can be 6meg or so.
>
> > I want to thank you ahead of time for helping,
>
> > Wes

I'm not so sure about jpeg artifacts- higher resolution does prevent
SAMPLING artifacts (Shannon limits). However, I certainly agree with
the advise to let the frame do the resampling, resizing, and cropping
if it wll do so.
 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first? 

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 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first? 

Wes wrote:
> Good day,
>
> I hope this question makes sense....
>
> I have digital picture frame. The resolution is 900x500. After reading a lot
> of comments by other people concerning this frame on www.buy.com it turns
> out that the picture ratio is 16:9 (HDTV).
>
> Here is my question: Should I set the resolution first or the ratio? Or does
> it even make a difference? I do take some pictures in raw format and the
> pictures can be 6meg or so.
>
> I want to thank you ahead of time for helping,
>
> Wes
>
>
I usually crop the image to the ratio first. But sometimes
it is better to leave the ratio, and accept that the screen
won't be filled completely.
 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first? 

On Aug 27, 12:44 pm, Marvin <physc....RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote:
> Wes wrote:
> > Good day,
>
> > I hope this question makes sense....
>
> > I have digital picture frame. The resolution is 900x500. After reading a lot
> > of comments by other people concerning this frame onwww.buy.comit turns
> > out that the picture ratio is 16:9 (HDTV).
>
> > Here is my question: Should I set the resolution first or the ratio? Or does
> > it even make a difference? I do take some pictures in raw format and the
> > pictures can be 6meg or so.
>
> > I want to thank you ahead of time for helping,
>
> > Wes
>
> I usually crop the image to the ratio first. But sometimes
> it is better to leave the ratio, and accept that the screen
> won't be filled completely.

I just realized this is exactly the same decision faced when trying to
print on a printing paper that does not fit the aspect ratio of the
camera. Do you print smaller and trim the paper, or do you crop your
image before printing and then use the whole paper. A LOT goes into
this decision and is different for every print you make.

Personally, I have no objection to trimming print. Regardless of the
aspect ratio of the camera, or of the paper, the image itself should
suggest the best aspect ratio for it. For instance, I do a lot of
ships on the Great Lakes, and sometimes trim profile views to quite an
extreme aspect ratio. But this is, of course, a difference between a
print and a digital frame. So you are back to the original decision
whether to crop in the frame or crop in software, which is the same
decision as those who want to use commercial frames for prints.
 >> Stay informed about: Resolution or ratio set first?