Refurbished Canon DSLRs

On Oct 18, 2:57 pm, "Summer Wind" <SummerW....DeleteThis@summer.com> wrote:
> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs atwww.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one wonder
> why they need refurbishing so soon.

The name is a clue.
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"Rich" <rander3127 DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 18, 2:57 pm, "Summer Wind" <SummerW... DeleteThis @summer.com> wrote:
>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs
>> atwww.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one
>> wonder
>> why they need refurbishing so soon.
>
> The name is a clue.

There are just as many refurbished Nikon's.

SW
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:

> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one wonder
> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the cameras it
> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of you
> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>
> Thanks,
> SW

Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The idea is
that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs made.
I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
equipment than new - because of thorough testing.

I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two Kodak
refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely satisfied
with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers refurbished -
and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought from the
corporate online store.
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Summer Wind wrote:
> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one wonder
> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the cameras it
> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of you
> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>
> Thanks,
> SW
>
>
Not sure about Adorama, a reputable shop, but B&H, another reputable
shop, has "used" gear that when rated condition 10 is usually refurbed
by Canon. Where they get them is easy. The Canon Sales Reps turn in
their sample cases on a regular schedule. The equipment gets a going
over by Canon but can not be sold as new. The equipmant may also be
store demos.

A nice way to get "new" at used prices. I bought my 28-135 IS that way
and a friend bought his 10D and maybe his 20D that way. We're both
happy with what we bought.

Check with Adorama and ask if that is what they do.
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"Bob S" <purpletop34.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
> Not sure about Adorama, a reputable shop, but B&H, another reputable shop,
> has "used" gear that when rated condition 10 is usually refurbed by Canon.
> Where they get them is easy. The Canon Sales Reps turn in their sample
> cases on a regular schedule. The equipment gets a going over by Canon but
> can not be sold as new. The equipmant may also be store demos.
>
> A nice way to get "new" at used prices. I bought my 28-135 IS that way
> and a friend bought his 10D and maybe his 20D that way. We're both happy
> with what we bought.
>

Thanks and it does appear to be a good way to save a few bucks. The price
difference is not that spectacular, but it does cover the shipping and taxes
you'd pay for new merchandise, plus a little more.

SW
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Where they get them is easy. The Canon Sales Reps turn in
> their sample cases on a regular schedule. The equipment gets a going
> over by Canon but can not be sold as new. The equipmant may also be
> store demos.
>
There aren't enough sales reps to account for the huge number of
refurbished Canons and Nikons.
I suspect a lot of them come from returned cameras and store demos.
They are carefully gone over and returned to factory specs. Most of
them probably need very little work done.
I own a refurbished Nikon D80 which looks exactly like new and
performs perfectly. Got a one-year warranty from the store, too.
My local camera store owner says he'd rather buy a refurb than a new
camera.
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"ray" <ray RemoveThis @zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>
>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make
>> one wonder
>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the
>> cameras it
>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any
>> of you
>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> SW
>
> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The
> idea is
> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs
> made.
> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>
> I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two Kodak
> refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely
> satisfied
> with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers
> refurbished -
> and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought from
> the
> corporate online store.

Let's not use doubletalk. Currently hucksters use terms like pre-owned
instead of used.
The fact of the matter is a "refurbished" item is a "used" item. You
do not know how
or where the original user handled the camera or lens. Trying to gloss
it over or
pretend that it is "more thoroughly tested" is pure hype.
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"Frank Arthur" <Art.DeleteThis@Arthurian.com> wrote in message
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> "ray" <ray.DeleteThis@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>>
>>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one
>>> wonder
>>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the cameras
>>> it
>>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of you
>>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> SW
>>
>> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
>> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The idea is
>> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs made.
>> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
>> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>>
>> I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two Kodak
>> refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely
>> satisfied
>> with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers
>> refurbished -
>> and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought from the
>> corporate online store.
>
> Let's not use doubletalk. Currently hucksters use terms like pre-owned
> instead of used.
> The fact of the matter is a "refurbished" item is a "used" item. You do
> not know how
> or where the original user handled the camera or lens. Trying to gloss it
> over or
> pretend that it is "more thoroughly tested" is pure hype.

As the new owner of a refurbished Canon S3 IS, I gotta say... I'm hard
pressed to see the difference between refurbished and new. If it didn't come
with a refurbished sticker on the bottom, I wouldn't be able to tell.

dwight
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"dwight" <tfrog93.TakeThisOut@gEEmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "ray" <ray.TakeThisOut@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>>>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make
>>>> one wonder
>>>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the
>>>> cameras it
>>>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any
>>>> of you
>>>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> SW
>>>
>>> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned
>>> for
>>> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The
>>> idea is
>>> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary
>>> repairs made.
>>> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
>>> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>>>
>>> I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two
>>> Kodak
>>> refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely
>>> satisfied
>>> with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers
>>> refurbished -
>>> and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought
>>> from the
>>> corporate online store.
>>
>> Let's not use doubletalk. Currently hucksters use terms like
>> pre-owned instead of used.
>> The fact of the matter is a "refurbished" item is a "used" item.
>> You do not know how
>> or where the original user handled the camera or lens. Trying to
>> gloss it over or
>> pretend that it is "more thoroughly tested" is pure hype.
>
> As the new owner of a refurbished Canon S3 IS, I gotta say... I'm
> hard pressed to see the difference between refurbished and new. If
> it didn't come with a refurbished sticker on the bottom, I wouldn't
> be able to tell.
>
> dwight
> www.tfrog.com
>
Was there a significant price savings?
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ray wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>
>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one wonder
>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the cameras it
>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of you
>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> SW
>
> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The idea is
> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs made.
> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.

Returned for repair by who? If I send my camera in for repair I get my
camera back.

I agree with the thorough testing aspect. A friend of mine would buy
new ham radio equipment and never use it, but he would send it in for
warranty work because "it wasn't quite right". The warranty repair
procedure would include testing and alignment beyond that of the
production line. Seems like the same would apply to a D200 or 30D.

Bob S
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:21:20 -0400, Bob S wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>>
>>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one wonder
>>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the cameras it
>>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of you
>>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> SW
>>
>> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
>> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The idea is
>> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs made.
>> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
>> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>
> Returned for repair by who? If I send my camera in for repair I get my
> camera back.

Often if you send in a camera, you get another - not necessarily the same
one. You've never returned a faulty product for a refund?

>
> I agree with the thorough testing aspect. A friend of mine would buy
> new ham radio equipment and never use it, but he would send it in for
> warranty work because "it wasn't quite right". The warranty repair
> procedure would include testing and alignment beyond that of the
> production line. Seems like the same would apply to a D200 or 30D.
>
> Bob S
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:49:44 -0400, Frank Arthur wrote:

>
> "ray" <ray RemoveThis @zianet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>>
>>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make
>>> one wonder
>>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the
>>> cameras it
>>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any
>>> of you
>>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> SW
>>
>> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
>> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The
>> idea is
>> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs
>> made.
>> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
>> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>>
>> I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two Kodak
>> refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely
>> satisfied
>> with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers
>> refurbished -
>> and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought from
>> the
>> corporate online store.
>
> Let's not use doubletalk. Currently hucksters use terms like pre-owned
> instead of used.
> The fact of the matter is a "refurbished" item is a "used" item. You
> do not know how
> or where the original user handled the camera or lens. Trying to gloss
> it over or
> pretend that it is "more thoroughly tested" is pure hype.

Evidently your experiences have been different from mine. e.g. - the Kodak
DC210+ I bought several years ago came with a new warranty, plus several
items not ususally included with the new camera - at a considerable
savings. It had a refurbished sticker, and performed as new - still works
fine.
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>>> "ray" <ray.RemoveThis@zianet.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:57:09 -0500, Summer Wind wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are always a good number of refurbished Canon DSLRs at
>>>>> www.adorama.com. Some of them are new models, which has to make one
>>>>> wonder
>>>>> why they need refurbishing so soon. How does Canon come by the
>>>>> cameras it
>>>>> refurbishes and what does refurbishment usually entail? Have any of
>>>>> you
>>>>> bought one of these cameras and have you had any problems?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> SW
>>>>
>>>> Generally a product marketed as 'refurbished' has been returned for
>>>> repair. The problem may have been very minor or quite major. The idea
>>>> is
>>>> that every subsystem of the product is tested and necessary repairs
>>>> made.
>>>> I've heard folks say that they have more confidence in refurbished
>>>> equipment than new - because of thorough testing.
>>>>
>>>> I have no knowledge of canon products, but I've purchased two Kodak
>>>> refurbished cameras (a DC210+ and a P850) - I've been completely
>>>> satisfied
>>>> with both. I have also purchased Epson scanners and printers
>>>> refurbished -
>>>> and have been completely satisfied. In all cases I have bought from the
>>>> corporate online store.
>>>
>>> Let's not use doubletalk. Currently hucksters use terms like pre-owned
>>> instead of used.
>>> The fact of the matter is a "refurbished" item is a "used" item. You do
>>> not know how
>>> or where the original user handled the camera or lens. Trying to gloss
>>> it over or
>>> pretend that it is "more thoroughly tested" is pure hype.
>>
>> As the new owner of a refurbished Canon S3 IS, I gotta say... I'm hard
>> pressed to see the difference between refurbished and new. If it didn't
>> come with a refurbished sticker on the bottom, I wouldn't be able to
>> tell.
>>
>> dwight
>> www.tfrog.com
>>
> Was there a significant price savings?

Apparently, Canon could not repair my S1 (a repair for which a service
bulletin had been issued), so they sent me this refurbished S3 in its place.

So, yes, rather significant savings.

dwight
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