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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:25 am
Post subject: Recommendation for Photo Software
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Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:31 am
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> Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
Simple answer, no. You won't _lose_ detail, but increasing the image
size by 200% will make the limitations in the detail very apparent. The
problem is that you can't _add_ detail, and added detail is what you
would need to make these images satisfying at larger scales.
Some experimentation has been done with enlargers that use fractal
algorithms to increase image size without making the detail limitations
really distracting - but it, as everything else - has limits.
In my experience, you _can_ get away with increasing image size by
maybe 2x without a dramatic loss in image quality. Beyond that... I've
yet to see a good solution.
Perhaps other posters have more encouraging words. 
BD |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:23 am
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On 7/31/06 9:25 AM, Gil wrote:
> Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
>
Photoshop Elements is under $100, and you can get a free 30 day trial
from Adobe's site.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:30 am
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On 7/31/06 11:23 AM, John McWilliams wrote:
> On 7/31/06 9:25 AM, Gil wrote:
>> Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
>> saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
>> size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
>> these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
>> budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
>> be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
>> your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
>>
> Photoshop Elements is under $100, and you can get a free 30 day trial
> from Adobe's site.
>
I didn't read your post adequately, and seeing BD's post reminds me of
that. His admonitions are correct, and no software can do magic. I like
PS and its sibling, Elements, finding them easy to work with.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:46 am
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BD wrote:
> > Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> > saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> > size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> > these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> > budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> > be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> > your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
>
> Simple answer, no. You won't _lose_ detail, but increasing the image
> size by 200% will make the limitations in the detail very apparent. The
> problem is that you can't _add_ detail, and added detail is what you
> would need to make these images satisfying at larger scales.
>
> Some experimentation has been done with enlargers that use fractal
> algorithms to increase image size without making the detail limitations
> really distracting - but it, as everything else - has limits.
>
> In my experience, you _can_ get away with increasing image size by
> maybe 2x without a dramatic loss in image quality. Beyond that... I've
> yet to see a good solution.
>
> Perhaps other posters have more encouraging words.
>
> BD, Thanks for the advice. Will give PhotoShop Element a try. Drat, was hoping for a miracle. Gil >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:48 am
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John McWilliams wrote:
> On 7/31/06 9:25 AM, Gil wrote:
> > Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> > saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> > size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> > these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> > budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> > be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> > your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
> >
> Photoshop Elements is under $100, and you can get a free 30 day trial
> from Adobe's site.
>
> --
> John McWilliams
Thanks John, will give Photoshop Elements a shot. Gil >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:48 am
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BD wrote:
> > Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> > saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> > size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> > these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> > budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> > be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> > your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
>
> Simple answer, no. You won't _lose_ detail, but increasing the image
> size by 200% will make the limitations in the detail very apparent. The
> problem is that you can't _add_ detail, and added detail is what you
> would need to make these images satisfying at larger scales.
>
> Some experimentation has been done with enlargers that use fractal
> algorithms to increase image size without making the detail limitations
> really distracting - but it, as everything else - has limits.
>
> In my experience, you _can_ get away with increasing image size by
> maybe 2x without a dramatic loss in image quality. Beyond that... I've
> yet to see a good solution.
>
> Perhaps other posters have more encouraging words.
>
> BD >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:51 am
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John McWilliams wrote:
> On 7/31/06 11:23 AM, John McWilliams wrote:
> > On 7/31/06 9:25 AM, Gil wrote:
> >> Hi, new to this group so my first post. I have a lot of old pictures
> >> saved to disk and my computer. The pictures are old and very small in
> >> size. Is there a software program that I can buy and use to enlarge
> >> these small pictures without losing the detail? I am retired so my
> >> budget is constrained but it would be worth budget busting a little to
> >> be able to enlarge these (1,000 +) pictures. Thank you in advance,
> >> your recommendations will be appreciated. Gil
> >>
> > Photoshop Elements is under $100, and you can get a free 30 day trial
> > from Adobe's site.
> >
> I didn't read your post adequately, and seeing BD's post reminds me of
> that. His admonitions are correct, and no software can do magic. I like
> PS and its sibling, Elements, finding them easy to work with.
>
> --
> John McWilliams
Thanks again John. Drat, was hoping for a miracle. I will have joy
even if I can only enlarge the pictures 80% larger than they are now,
Gil >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:55 am
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If you have Photoshop Elements, try this...it might do what you need...
Open the image
Select Image > Resize > Image Size
In the Image Size dialog, ensure that "Resample Image" is enabled.
Change the units at the top of the dialog to "Percent"
Keyin 110 in the Width and Height fields
Do this as many times as needed to increase the image size without a whole
lot of quality loss.
This trick brought to you by:
"The Photoshop Elements book for Digital Photographers"
Author: Scott Kelby
"Gil" <gilgillberg RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:09 am
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In article <zIUzg.151655$I61.97896@clgrps13>,
"~Echo" <nobody.TakeThisOut@nowhere.net> wrote:
> If you have Photoshop Elements, try this...it might do what you need...
>
> Open the image
> Select Image > Resize > Image Size
> In the Image Size dialog, ensure that "Resample Image" is enabled.
> Change the units at the top of the dialog to "Percent"
> Keyin 110 in the Width and Height fields
> Do this as many times as needed to increase the image size without a whole
> lot of quality loss.
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> This trick brought to you by:
> "The Photoshop Elements book for Digital Photographers"
> Author: Scott Kelby
I have done this several times all successfully.
But no-one, even Kelby knows why you can enlarge without loss of quality.
Perhaps Adobe knows.
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There are two ways to spell Ockham/Occam. Britannica prefers the former. >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:55 pm
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Yeah, it's a cool trick alright!
"Ockham's Razor" <Mencken RemoveThis @pdx.net> wrote in message
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> I have done this several times all successfully.
>But no-one, even Kelby knows why you can enlarge without loss of quality.
> Perhaps Adobe knows. >> Stay informed about: Recommendation for Photo Software |
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