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Michael J. Mahon wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
>> costco/kirkland/ilford works great in a canon printer with canon
>> ink. while paper is important it is more important to use factopry
>> ink so you do not ruin the printer. paper is either good or bad but
>> bad ink will give your printer the long kiss goodbye.
>
>
> All but a few inkjet printers have essentially the entire ink/printing
> system within the replaceable cartridge (Epson is a notable exception),
> so the worst that could happen with "bad ink" is a "bad cartridge".

totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.

>
> -michael
>
> Home page: http://members.aol.com/MJMahon/
>
> "The wastebasket is our most important design
> tool--and it is seriously underused."
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

>"measekite" <inkystinky RemoveThis @oem.com> wrote in message
>
>
>>kodak paper is terrible with canon printers.
>>
>>
>
>That has not been my experience with the top grade, may it is with the lower
>end stuff. No one I've showed the printing to can tell the difference from
>Canon paper.
>
>
canon tech support says this:

do not use kodak paper. it gives poor results. if one does not want to
use canon photo paper then we recommend epson paper. now you may not
have a canon printer even if the name on the printer says canon. if you
are using generic ink then you have a generic printer with a canon name.

>
>
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measekite wrote:
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>
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
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>> "measekite" <inkystinky.TakeThisOut@oem.com> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> kodak paper is terrible with canon printers.
>>>
>>
>> That has not been my experience with the top grade, may it is with the
>> lower end stuff. No one I've showed the printing to can tell the
>> difference from Canon paper.
>>
> canon tech support says this:
>
> do not use kodak paper. it gives poor results. if one does not want to
> use canon photo paper then we recommend epson paper. now you may not
> have a canon printer even if the name on the printer says canon. if you
> are using generic ink then you have a generic printer with a canon name.
>
>>
>>
>>

Translation from 'business speak'. We don't have a deal with Kodak to
promote their paper, so it is trash, and won't work with our printers,
or will work only very poorly with them. Isn't business wonderful?
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Ron Hunter wrote:

> measekite wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> "measekite" <inkystinky RemoveThis @oem.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>> kodak paper is terrible with canon printers.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That has not been my experience with the top grade, may it is with
>>> the lower end stuff. No one I've showed the printing to can tell
>>> the difference from Canon paper.
>>
>> canon tech support says this:
>>
>> do not use kodak paper. it gives poor results. if one does not want
>> to use canon photo paper then we recommend epson paper. now you may
>> not have a canon printer even if the name on the printer says canon.
>> if you are using generic ink then you have a generic printer with a
>> canon name.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> Translation from 'business speak'. We don't have a deal with Kodak to
> promote their paper, so it is trash, and won't work with our printers,
> or will work only very poorly with them. Isn't business wonderful?

oh yeah canon has a deal with epson

ha ha ha or is it he he he
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measekite wrote:
>
>
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>> measekite wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>> "measekite" <inkystinky.RemoveThis@oem.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> kodak paper is terrible with canon printers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That has not been my experience with the top grade, may it is with
>>>> the lower end stuff. No one I've showed the printing to can tell
>>>> the difference from Canon paper.
>>>
>>> canon tech support says this:
>>>
>>> do not use kodak paper. it gives poor results. if one does not want
>>> to use canon photo paper then we recommend epson paper. now you may
>>> not have a canon printer even if the name on the printer says canon.
>>> if you are using generic ink then you have a generic printer with a
>>> canon name.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Translation from 'business speak'. We don't have a deal with Kodak to
>> promote their paper, so it is trash, and won't work with our printers,
>> or will work only very poorly with them. Isn't business wonderful?
>
> oh yeah canon has a deal with epson
>
> ha ha ha or is it he he he

It's neither. Unless you are 7.

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Why not turn a perceived weakness into a strength? Advertise that you
use genuine HP photo paper because of its high archival quality and
fade resistance. You could even go so far as to say that your
clientele *prefers* HP over any other brand (it's not like any of your
clients have ever specifically asked for a different kind of paper).

At any rate, being proud of the paper you print on is a much cheaper
alternative to having to find a new supply.
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measekite wrote:
>
>
> Michael J. Mahon wrote:
>
>> measekite wrote:
>>
>>> costco/kirkland/ilford works great in a canon printer with canon
>>> ink. while paper is important it is more important to use factopry
>>> ink so you do not ruin the printer. paper is either good or bad but
>>> bad ink will give your printer the long kiss goodbye.
>>
>>
>>
>> All but a few inkjet printers have essentially the entire ink/printing
>> system within the replaceable cartridge (Epson is a notable exception),
>> so the worst that could happen with "bad ink" is a "bad cartridge".
>
>
> totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
> integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.

Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
HP.

-michael

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tool--and it is seriously underused."
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Mike Rosenberg wrote:
> Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
>>> integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.
>>
>> Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
>> HP.
>
> The Canon inkjets I've set up for clients recently have had a
> snap-in
> printhead, separate from the cartridges, which means Canon is using
> an
> approach intermediate between HP and Epson.

A few years ago any suggestion of using color laser printers for
photographic copies was easily dismisssed: quality of output rendered
them unusable. Is that still the case? While none of the reviews I've
managed to unearth have been wholeheartedly complimentary, a number
seem to suggest higher-quality prints from some units could be
serviceable.

I'm thinking in particular of the Konica-Minolta 2450, claiming "Up to
9600 x 600 dpi-class with Photo ART".

I print photos at home so seldom any more, but when I do it takes half
an hour and half an Epson color cartridge to clean the print head. I
could surely do without that bother for what usually amounts to a
proof print. Freeing up a little horizontal surface space wouldn't
hurt, either.

None of the local shops have that K-M 2450 printer in stock, so
there's no current likelihood I'll see a live sample. I think that
printer has been out for a year or so, and reckon it may soon be a
candidate for an improved replacement. My mono laser still works
perfectly (sound of woodknock). Just a passing (but not necessarily
idle) thought.

--
Frank ess
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Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

> > totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
> > integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.
>
> Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
> HP.

The Canon inkjets I've set up for clients recently have had a snap-in
printhead, separate from the cartridges, which means Canon is using an
approach intermediate between HP and Epson.

--
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<http://www.cafepress.com/macconsult,macconsult4> Mac-themed T-shirts
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HP photo paper is giving me excellent photos with an HP Photosmart 3200.

DSH

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> Why not turn a perceived weakness into a strength? Advertise that you
> use genuine HP photo paper because of its high archival quality and
> fade resistance. You could even go so far as to say that your
> clientele *prefers* HP over any other brand (it's not like any of your
> clients have ever specifically asked for a different kind of paper).
>
> At any rate, being proud of the paper you print on is a much cheaper
> alternative to having to find a new supply.
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mike RemoveThis @POSTTOGROUP.invalid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>> > totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
>> > integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.
>>
>> Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
>> HP.
>
>The Canon inkjets I've set up for clients recently have had a snap-in
>printhead, separate from the cartridges, which means Canon is using an
>approach intermediate between HP and Epson.
>
>--
>Mike Rosenberg
><http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
><http://www.cafepress.com/macconsult,macconsult4> Mac-themed T-shirts
><http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart

The situation is actually less cut and dried.
Canon use clip in printheads for most of the printers but use integrated (head
in cart) arrangements for a small number of printers.
HP use integrated printheads for their deskjet series but use separate ink
tanks and user replaceable printheads for most of their high end inkjets
(business and professional series).
Tony
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Frank ess wrote:
> Mike Rosenberg wrote:
>> Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
>>>> integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.
>>>
>>> Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
>>> HP.
>>
>> The Canon inkjets I've set up for clients recently have had a snap-in
>> printhead, separate from the cartridges, which means Canon is using an
>> approach intermediate between HP and Epson.
>
> A few years ago any suggestion of using color laser printers for
> photographic copies was easily dismisssed: quality of output rendered
> them unusable. Is that still the case? While none of the reviews I've
> managed to unearth have been wholeheartedly complimentary, a number seem
> to suggest higher-quality prints from some units could be serviceable.
>
> I'm thinking in particular of the Konica-Minolta 2450, claiming "Up to
> 9600 x 600 dpi-class with Photo ART".
>
> I print photos at home so seldom any more, but when I do it takes half
> an hour and half an Epson color cartridge to clean the print head. I
> could surely do without that bother for what usually amounts to a proof
> print. Freeing up a little horizontal surface space wouldn't hurt, either.
>
> None of the local shops have that K-M 2450 printer in stock, so there's
> no current likelihood I'll see a live sample. I think that printer has
> been out for a year or so, and reckon it may soon be a candidate for an
> improved replacement. My mono laser still works perfectly (sound of
> woodknock). Just a passing (but not necessarily idle) thought.
>
While they have improved, especially as to size and price, they are
still better suited to charts and graphs than photos.
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I just bought a new HP Allinone printer that has seperate ink carts. The
print head is not part of the cartridge.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/product_detail.do?storeName...orefron
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Small URL

Steve

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> mike RemoveThis @POSTTOGROUP.invalid (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:
>>Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > totally not true. only true with cetain hp printers that have an
>>> > integrated printhead. canon and epson are notable expecptions.
>>>
>>> Interesting...I thought that Canon used an approach similar to
>>> HP.
>>
>>The Canon inkjets I've set up for clients recently have had a snap-in
>>printhead, separate from the cartridges, which means Canon is using an
>>approach intermediate between HP and Epson.
>>
>>--
>>Mike Rosenberg
>><http://www.macconsult.com> Macintosh consulting services for NE Florida
>><http://www.cafepress.com/macconsult,macconsult4> Mac-themed T-shirts
>><http://bogart-tribute.net> Tribute to Humphrey Bogart
>
> The situation is actually less cut and dried.
> Canon use clip in printheads for most of the printers but use integrated
> (head
> in cart) arrangements for a small number of printers.
> HP use integrated printheads for their deskjet series but use separate ink
> tanks and user replaceable printheads for most of their high end inkjets
> (business and professional series).
> Tony
>
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