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Rob

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:02 am
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I'm not familiar yet with RAW photos but am familiar with jpegs. I've
read that RAW is highly editable for photo touch ups but using a
program like photoshop or paint shop, isn't jpegs just as editable for
photo touch ups? I realize that the jpeg is compressed so I guess the
editing on RAW will be more efficient, effective and probably look
better??

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Stacey

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:40 am
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Rob wrote:

> I'm not familiar yet with RAW photos but am familiar with jpegs. I've
> read that RAW is highly editable for photo touch ups but using a
> program like photoshop or paint shop, isn't jpegs just as editable for
> photo touch ups?

Not for things like exposure/contrast adjustment or dealing with WB issues.
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dave6134

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:17 am
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:40:19 -0400, Stacey <fotocord.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Rob wrote:
>
>> I'm not familiar yet with RAW photos but am familiar with jpegs. I've
>> read that RAW is highly editable for photo touch ups but using a
>> program like photoshop or paint shop, isn't jpegs just as editable for
>> photo touch ups?
>
>Not for things like exposure/contrast adjustment or dealing with WB issues.

This is nonsense and I don't understand how it ever got started!

By exposure/contrast I presume you mean gamma and curves/levels. All
of these adjustments plus white balance corrections work just fine on
JPEG files. I've been editing digital images from scanner and Kodak CD
files using Paintshop Pro, PictureWindows and various Adobe programs
for over fifteen years. Raw image files are relatively new on the
scene and while are able to utilize a wider dynamic range for some
purposes, the results in printed images are indistinguishable from
JEPG files.

Dave
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Jim Townsend

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:20 pm
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Chris Brown

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:27 pm
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In article <7hg5i1hpbghq3sur1rlss5ntudq8qf663m.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
<dave6134.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:40:19 -0400, Stacey <fotocord.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Rob wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not familiar yet with RAW photos but am familiar with jpegs. I've
>>> read that RAW is highly editable for photo touch ups but using a
>>> program like photoshop or paint shop, isn't jpegs just as editable for
>>> photo touch ups?
>>
>>Not for things like exposure/contrast adjustment or dealing with WB issues.
>
>This is nonsense and I don't understand how it ever got started!
>
>By exposure/contrast I presume you mean gamma and curves/levels. All
>of these adjustments plus white balance corrections work just fine on
>JPEG files.

Push a JPEG 2 stops, look at what used to be the shadows, then perhaps you
might want to reconsider that statement.
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jean

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:49 pm
Post subject: Re: RAW question (what about EXIF data) [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Like Rob, I know about raw, but I have not used it extensively. Is there
any EXIF data in a raw file and how can it be saved with a jpeg for
distribution?

Jean

<Rob> a écrit dans le message de
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> I'm not familiar yet with RAW photos but am familiar with jpegs. I've
> read that RAW is highly editable for photo touch ups but using a
> program like photoshop or paint shop, isn't jpegs just as editable for
> photo touch ups? I realize that the jpeg is compressed so I guess the
> editing on RAW will be more efficient, effective and probably look
> better??
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John Bean

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 9:39 am
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:49:03 -0400, "jean" <try-to DeleteThis @find.it>
wrote:

>Like Rob, I know about raw, but I have not used it extensively. Is there
>any EXIF data in a raw file and how can it be saved with a jpeg for
>distribution?
>

Yes, the raw file has full metadata. Some (most?) converters
pass it through transparently into the output, or if you use
one that doesn't do this there are programs like Exiftools
that can copy the metadata from the raw file to the
corresponding JPEG.

I use Photoshop CS2 and Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) for all my
image processing, and the EXIF data is handled automatically
without my help Smile

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