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nigel

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:46 am
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Hi,

I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
format or converting to DNG?

Many thanks

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David Dyer-Bennet

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:05 pm
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nigel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> format or converting to DNG?

You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.

Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
that doesn't work, go via DNG.

However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
ACR will convert the DNG to an image.

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Paul Mitchum

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:05 pm
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b.DeleteThis@dd-b.net> wrote:

> nigel wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> > Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> > file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> > format or converting to DNG?
>
> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
>
> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
>
> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.

This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?
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Eatmorepies

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:57 pm
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"nigel" <bubs719-dd.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1170182809.927851.49580@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> format or converting to DNG?
>

I don't think so. The Adobe site will supply an appropriate plug-ib if it's
available. It will also list which version will accept which plug-ins.

John
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Astigmatic Owl

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:01 pm
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet.TakeThisOut@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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> David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b.TakeThisOut@dd-b.net> wrote:
>
>> nigel wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
>> > Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
>> > file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
>> > format or converting to DNG?
>>
>> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
>> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
>> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
>>
>> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
>> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
>>
>> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
>> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
>> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.
>
> This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?

While Adobe limits which versions of Photoshop can use the latest versions
the Adobe Camera RAW (ACR) plug-in, they have been much more generous
with Photoshop Elements. The latest version of ACR is 3.6 and it works with
Elements versions 3, 4, and 5. If you buy Elements 5, it will cost you about
US $80, less on a good sale. ACR 3.6 was released in October 2006, so it
handles all cameras available before about September 2006.

ACR 3.6 is available on www.adobe.com which will list supported camera.
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Barry Pearson

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 3:57 pm
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On Jan 30, 8:30 pm, use... RemoveThis @mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
[snip]
> This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files

No. There is now no Adobe raw-handling plugin for 7. (CS = Cool.

Bibble have one. It doesn't support DNG, but does support lots of
cameras.

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Barry Pearson
http://www.barrypearson.co.uk/photography/
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David Dyer-Bennet

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:00 pm
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
> David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b.DeleteThis@dd-b.net> wrote:
>
>> nigel wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
>>> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
>>> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
>>> format or converting to DNG?
>> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
>> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
>> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
>>
>> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
>> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
>>
>> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
>> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
>> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.
>
> This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?

I'm not sure what "7" was; was that the original "CS"?

The question is, does it have Adobe Camera Raw, and does the latest ACR
available for it support DNG? I'm quite confident those things are true
of Photoshop CS.
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Paul Mitchum

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:24 pm
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David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b.RemoveThis@dd-b.net> wrote:

> Paul Mitchum wrote:
> > David Dyer-Bennet <dd-b.RemoveThis@dd-b.net> wrote:
> >
> >> nigel wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> >>> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> >>> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> >>> format or converting to DNG?
> >> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
> >> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
> >> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
> >>
> >> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
> >> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
> >>
> >> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
> >> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
> >> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.
> >
> > This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?
>
> I'm not sure what "7" was; was that the original "CS"?

CS was 8.

> The question is, does it have Adobe Camera Raw, and does the latest ACR
> available for it support DNG? I'm quite confident those things are true
> of Photoshop CS.

But not 7. That's the point.
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nigel

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:19 am
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On 31 Jan, 02:24, use....TakeThisOut@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> David Dyer-Bennet <d....TakeThisOut@dd-b.net> wrote:
> > Paul Mitchum wrote:
> > > David Dyer-Bennet <d....TakeThisOut@dd-b.net> wrote:
>
> > >> nigel wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
>
> > >>> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> > >>> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> > >>> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> > >>> format or converting to DNG?
> > >> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
> > >> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
> > >> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
>
> > >> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
> > >> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
>
> > >> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
> > >> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
> > >> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.
>
> > > This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?
>
> > I'm not sure what "7" was; was that the original "CS"?
>
> CS was 8.
>
> > The question is, does it have Adobe Camera Raw, and does the latest ACR
> > available for it support DNG? I'm quite confident those things are true
> > of Photoshop CS.
>
> But not 7. That's the point.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for all replies & info. Looks like I'll have to stick with
jpegs for now until I get CS2 or 3.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:01 am
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On Jan 30, 1:46 pm, "nigel" <bubs719... RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> format or converting to DNG?
>
> Many thanks


Adobe RAW doesn't work with PS7, alternatives are, upgrade to PSCS2
(about $160), buy PS Elements 5 (about $80), Phase One Capture 1LE
($99) very good with Canon BTW, Adobe Lightroom (was a free beta, but
shipping 2-07), Silky Pics, Bibble and some other independent RAW
converters. Don't know if Canon has a premium RAW converter like
Nikon's Capture NX but it is worth looking into. The upgrade of
Photoshop is worth it, I really liked PS7 but find PSCS2 to be
excellent. After you upgrade Photoshop you have to go onto the Adobe
web site and get the latest Adobe RAW.

Tom
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Ed Ruf

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:10 am
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Paul Mitchum

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:12 pm
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nigel <bubs719-dd.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 31 Jan, 02:24, use....DeleteThis@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote:
> > David Dyer-Bennet <d....DeleteThis@dd-b.net> wrote:
> > > Paul Mitchum wrote:
> > > > David Dyer-Bennet <d....DeleteThis@dd-b.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> nigel wrote:
> > > >>> Hi,
> >
> > > >>> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> > > >>> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> > > >>> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> > > >>> format or converting to DNG?
> > > >> You'll probably have to go through DNG. Adobe doesn't update old
> > > >> versions of the Camera Raw plugin, so if the camera came out after the
> > > >> version of Photoshop you're out of luck for direct converstion.
> >
> > > >> Make sure you have the latest ACR for that version of photoshop, and if
> > > >> that doesn't work, go via DNG.
> >
> > > >> However, you can always download the *latest* DNG converter, which
> > > >> supports newer cameras, and convert the raw to DNG, and then the older
> > > >> ACR will convert the DNG to an image.
> >
> > > > This is true, but will PS 7 be able to use DNG files?
> >
> > > I'm not sure what "7" was; was that the original "CS"?
> >
> > CS was 8.
> >
> > > The question is, does it have Adobe Camera Raw, and does the latest ACR
> > > available for it support DNG? I'm quite confident those things are true
> > > of Photoshop CS.
> >
> > But not 7. That's the point.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks for all replies & info. Looks like I'll have to stick with
> jpegs for now until I get CS2 or 3.

Well, no. You could use any of a number of converters. For instance,
ufraw: <http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Install.html#MS>, or even dcraw on
the command line. Or any of the commercial software.

You'd convert to TIFF and then edit in Photoshop.
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Paul

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:30 pm
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nigel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to digital photography and am still finding my way. I've got a
> Canon 350D and am using Photoshop 7. Is there any way I can get RAW
> file support on this version of Photoshop either using Canon's RAW
> format or converting to DNG?
>
> Many thanks
>

Try these:
> http://www.wizards.de/rawdrop/
> http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/

I dont use Photoshop, but ufraw works well with the GIMP (www.gimp.org)
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