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Since: Feb 03, 2008 Posts: 84
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Printer (and laptop) preferences? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: rec>photo>digital (more info?)
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Longfellow wrote:
> On 2008-11-15, ray wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:22:38 -0600, Longfellow wrote:
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>>> On 2008-11-14, ray wrote:
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>> Other options: run photoshop on Linux via Wine; install your MS as a
>> virtual machine inside your Linux install with VirtualBox.
>
> Unfortunately, even Crossover WINE only runs Elements, and only at the
> "Silver" level (installs and runs, functionality limited due to
> bugginess). I just checked to make sure that's what the Crossover site
> still says. It would be something like "the best of all possible
> worlds" to be able to run Linux with Photoshop CS4 embedded, but it
> looks like that's just a dream at the moment.
>
> Thing is, a Windows laptop is most likely to serve several different
> applications, and photography is only one of those. I'm setting up to
> do some astrophotography, and will need a Windows machine to control the
> mount. And then there are other hobbies that would benefit from a
> Windows machine as well. So it's Windows as the only choice, AFAIK.
Nice thing on Mac's is running VMWare fusion (which I use) or Parallels.
This allows a full (and licensed from a discarded machine) WinXP
installation on the Mac and both run in parallel, near seamlessly. No
emulation, it is running the OS (with some instructions substituted to
call into Fusion of course). (Much better than 'bootcamp').
When I first got my Mac I ran CS3 in WinXP on the Mac. (Then asked
Adobe to transfer my license to OS X.
Is there such a thing as VMWare Fusion or Parallels for Linux? That
would be a much more seamless way to run PSE or CS3 on a Linux box. Of
course WinXP has to be a legal copy and VMWare fusion costs about $80.
This is anathema to many Linux users.
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Since: Nov 12, 2008 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:52 pm
Post subject: Re: Printer (and laptop) preferences? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 2008-11-16, Alan Browne wrote:
> Nice thing on Mac's is running VMWare fusion (which I use) or Parallels.
> This allows a full (and licensed from a discarded machine) WinXP
> installation on the Mac and both run in parallel, near seamlessly. No
> emulation, it is running the OS (with some instructions substituted to
> call into Fusion of course). (Much better than 'bootcamp').
>
> When I first got my Mac I ran CS3 in WinXP on the Mac. (Then asked
> Adobe to transfer my license to OS X.
>
> Is there such a thing as VMWare Fusion or Parallels for Linux? That
> would be a much more seamless way to run PSE or CS3 on a Linux box. Of
> course WinXP has to be a legal copy and VMWare fusion costs about $80.
> This is anathema to many Linux users.
This always makes me want to look again at the Mac's. Generally, all I
do is think about doing so, although occasionally I will actually go and
look again.
I recall having had VMWare freebee's a long time ago, and thought the
idea had real merit. Thing was, though, I wasn't using any Microsoft
software at the time, so didn't think I'd need it. Now, however, it's a
different story.
I must assume that there is a VMWare for Linux; as far as I know, there
always has been. And thinking about that once again leads me to wonder
if that is not the optimum solution here. Checking on the VMWare site,
I find that there is a Workstation suite/app for Linux that costs
$189.00US. Dunno if that's worth it when a new laptop comes with
Windows already. I guess the question is whether or not I want to also
run Linux apps as well.
I've never been adverse to paying a reasonable fee for the use of
software, although most of the software suits that have interested me
have had better, more powerful though less user-friendly,
implementations in open source software. Most of the heavy computing
that I've done has been on UNIX systems at work, using industrial
strength software, so I haven't had to turn to Windows as the only game
in town. Things have changed, of course.
Now, I'm looking at paying something south of a grand for the latest
Photoshop and Lightroom software, and that's okay: It's a choice of
software rather than a choice of whether or not to have the software in
the first place. So as far as I'm concerned, it's the matter of choice
that is of real importance. The reason is because I like to know what
my computer is doing and that means having access to the source code
itself; I could modify it if that were really important, but that's not
the main reason, and in this I differ from RMS, et al.
In any case, VMWare is something I'll have to think about; it's one
solution. Thing is, I'm going to have to think about what (how many?)
problems it would solve, if any at all.
Thanks,
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Since: Oct 06, 2008 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Printer (and laptop) preferences? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Ο "Longfellow" έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> I'm asking about printer preferences in this forum (rather than in
> comp.periph.printers) because I want to know about the experiences and
> preferences of photographers specifically.
>
> I bought an Epson 2200 when it was the only pigment ink game in town.
> Quit using it when I couldn't get it to stay unclogged without using it
> continuously 24/7; it would clog in the space of less than a day! Gave
> up printing entirely. Was shooting slide film, which I was scanning for
> prints as an option. Finally consigned the entire mess to the local
> dump, fully packed in its shipping box with the unused roll accessary
> and all!
>
> But now I've gone digital, which means that prints are the reasonable
> end result. And now I've got to choose a printer. Again!! Argh!
>
> No more Epsons, and I don't care if they ever start using replaceable
> heads, because they are no longer the only game in town. Which leaves
> me the Canon and the HP (unless there is yet another photo printer
> manufacturer about which I know nothing at all) between which to make a
> choice. The blurbs are useless. The reviews are suspect; what to they
> actually reflect? Soreheads and fanatics?
>
> I read a lot of good things about the Canon printers. And then I read
> that the HP B9180 just blows the Canons out of the water when it comes
> to print quality. I've never had a Canon printer, but I've had several
> HP printers and have had excellent service from each one.
>
> I understand that fast and quiet is important for many people, but not
> so important for me. What I'm looking for is bullet-proof reliability
> and quality of image. Eventually, the option of using a range of media
> may become relevant, but not at the moment.
>
> I've considered the dye printer, but the idea of having colors knock my
> eyeballs out the back of my head somehow just doesn't appeal to me
> So I guess that pigment prints is that choice already made. Which leads
> me to my second question:
>
> What choices of laptops have been made, and what experiences had?
> Here's why I ask: I know little or nothing about Microsoft and Apple
> software products, having always used one or another *NIX operating
> system and software. I will not trust either to a network gateway,
> which means that my LAN system is a mixture of GNU/Linux and one or
> another descendent of Berkeley's BSD UNIX. Problem with all that is
> that software choices are limited (duh...)
>
> I've used the GNU Gimp with great success, but it currently has a
> limitation that cannot be countenanced: it is limited to 8 bit word
> length, which means that it is an unacceptable bottle-neck for image
> quality. I have used Cineprint, a fork of Gimp 1.x for Hollywood types
> that uses 16 bit word lengths, but the printing plugins were pretty
> primitive and I'd really like to step up to something more powerful.
>
> Also, HP says that it will never provide a *NIX driver for the
> B91800, and I've no idea how the Linux drivers work with the Canon
> printers.
>
> All of which means a PC (Mac is probably unacceptably expensive)
> solution, ergo Microsoft stuff. What's now available is MS Vista, about
> which I've heard little that is positive. Nevertheless, it would seem
> that Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom 2 is the way to go, specifically
> because they both handle 16 bit word lengths. I've got a 40D Canon
> which puts out 14 bit words.
>
> I read that Lightroom 2 means that Photoshop Elements is all that
> one needs, and I've been given to understand that all sorts of other
> opinions are the only "truth", so I tend to discount it all. Which
> leaves me having to ask those who have had to deal with all this.
>
> What printer do you use? What laptop do you find a) most useful, b)
> most reliable? What software works best and why? I'm currently leaning
> to the HP because a) I've had good luck with HP, and b) the heads are
> user replaceable and apparently much less hassle to replace than with
> either of the Canon printers. I'm also currently leaning to the HP
> Pavilion laptops, probably the 17" (although I really dislike the metal
> finish!).
>
> Opinions, experiences, all are invited!
>
Hi there,
now there are many printers to choose from. I have the Canon Pixma ip 4300
for about 2 years and I am very pleased with it, but AFAIK (from other
posters in this group) that Canon does not support linux. This printer is a
consumer model, and costs like 130 euros (the current model is , I think, iP
4500). It can print up to letter size (A4), has chroma life 100 inks (not
sure if they are pigment based) which give excellent results with Canon
papers, and with some generic brands. It has 5 ink tanks, cyan, magenta,
yellow, photo black and document black, and each tank costs 12 euros (13 ml,
the doc black 26 ml). It's difficult to refill, though, because the tanks
have a tiny chip, probably PROM that means that an empty tank is rejected by
the printer and only with tedious attempts you can print. The head is user
replaceable, but knock on wood I have no problems so far. It can print on
printable cds and dvds, it has a permanent paper tray, it can print on both
sides of a document automatically, and has the smallest droplet in its
category, therefore being very economical with ink (1 pl), it has also pict
bridge. (I have also the Lexmark F 4270 all-in-one, 3 years and so far I had
2 times clogged ink cartridges, normally I have them refilled in one of the
ink stations that are here, I use it mostly for photocopies and fax and
print only so it just does not clog up).
Now for the laptop... My mother got a HP with celeron M, with win Vista OEM
for 530 euros, from www.cccira.gr but it's quite slow, even after we
installed 1 gig (1.5 gig total). But, my desktop which I bought from the
same shop is fantastic
http://www.cccira.gr/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=90_91&products_id=130
and cost only 750 euros, with a Samsung sync master 206 BW 20" LCD
I got a legit copy of win XP OEM from plaisio www.plaisio.gr for 66 euros
and am very pleased with it,
no flames please.
Another good thing with XP is that if you want to play a game, so let your
hair down, there are thousands of popular games.
HTH.HAND.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:21 pm
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Since: Nov 13, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:25 pm
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Alan Browne wrote:
> Is there such a thing as VMWare Fusion or Parallels for Linux?
You ARE kidding, right?
According to my *hazy* memory, VMware was first developed for Linux,
and they had a Windows port within a year of that. I ran VMware
while writing my book on Unix-Windows networking (Using Samba),
to implement a virtual network along with a few real computers.
Last time I tried it, VMware was even supporting audio and USB
devices. Running VMware full-screen produced a user experience
that would fool most Windows experts into thinking the machine
was running Windows natively. I assume things have only improved
since then.
One thing about running VMware on Linux is that you need to be
careful to run a Linux distro that VMware fully supports. You can
find the compatibility list (for *host* system, not just guest OS)
on their website, in the VMware Workstation user manual.
I don't remember trying to run Photoshop under VMware, but I was
running Adobe FrameMaker to write the book on VMware-hosted Windows
2000, and had absolutely no problem. The question would be if
VMware works with 3D graphics hardware and OpenGL. Make sure to
check into that. Not that it's necessary, but it would be very nice
to have for Photoshop CS4.
Years ago, VMware was the only way to run Windows on Linux, aside
from Wine (which the last time I tried it, was barely able to display
a Photoshop CS2 splash screen before dying).
Now there are other virtualization options that ship with recent Linux
distros. The latest releases of the Linux kernel come with virtualization
built in (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel-based_Virtual_Machine), and
SuSE OpenLinux (which is free, unlike the pre-Novell SuSE Linux)
comes with Xen virtualization. This little Wikipedia article
tells a little more on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen
I'm making a special mention of Xen because I run OpenSUSE here, and
have a slight familiarity with it. It's been in OpenSUSE for over a
year, and is configured through SuSE's nice Yast2 graphical interface.
There are a huge number of virtualization options available, and
a list can be found in this Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines
Jay Ts
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