Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280

Matt Ion wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
>> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
>> Need to build a cable.
>> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
>> Yes, I have a card reader.
>> What I need is the USB info.
>> Thanks, mike
>
>
> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
Thanks,

When I asked for the USB pinout for a Kodak DC280,
I should have been clear that I wanted the pinout
for the end that plugs into the camera.
It appears that it shares the mini-DIN-8 serial
connector.

mike
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mike wrote:
> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>> mike wrote:
>>
>>> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
>>> Need to build a cable.
>>> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
>>> Yes, I have a card reader.
>>> What I need is the USB info.
>>> Thanks, mike
>>
>>
>>
>> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
>
> Thanks,
>
> When I asked for the USB pinout for a Kodak DC280,
> I should have been clear that I wanted the pinout
> for the end that plugs into the camera.
> It appears that it shares the mini-DIN-8 serial
> connector.

Well that's just crazy design... the whole point of USB (well, part of it
anyway) is to get away from needing a plethora of proprietary connectors for
everything (I'm still amazed it took celphone makers so long to use a standard
USB plug for phone software - I've got a half-dozen different cables for a
half-dozen different phones, three of them the same brand).

Sorry, don't think I can help ya there, then... I'd call up Kodak and give them
an earful...

FWIW, I googled "kodak dc280 usb pinouts" and got a ton of hits - including one
at the site above - showing the actual pinouts of the DIN plug, but all them
appear to connect to a standard DB9 serial port (which was a lot more common
"back in the day"). You can't connect that directly into a USB port, however -
you'd need to use a USB-to-DB9 serial adapter, which typically have, I believe,
some sort of buffer circuitry - they're not just straight-through wires.
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mike wrote:

> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
> Need to build a cable.
> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
> Yes, I have a card reader.
> What I need is the USB info.
> Thanks, mike



Here it is:
http://pinouts.ru/DevicesCables/kodak_serial_pinout.shtml

.....Fred
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"mike" <spamme0.TakeThisOut@go.com> wrote in message
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> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
> Need to build a cable.
> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
> Yes, I have a card reader.
> What I need is the USB info.
> Thanks, mike
For $20+ shipping you can have a new one. Can you build for much less than
this?
http://kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=473&pq-locale=en_US&c...raEkNum
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>> Thanks, mike
> For $20+ shipping you can have a new one. Can you build for much less
> than this?
> http://kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=473&pq-locale=en_US&c...raEkNum
>
The Kodak cable item #8112690 works on the following models:
DC220
DC240
DC260
DC265
DC280
DC290
DC3400
DC5000


Found this one at B&H for $12.95+ shipping. Please note the mfgr number is
the same as the Kodak number so it should fit.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?cpncode=08-6817653&src...e=cii_1
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Matt Ion wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>> mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
>>>> Need to build a cable.
>>>> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
>>>> Yes, I have a card reader.
>>>> What I need is the USB info.
>>>> Thanks, mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> When I asked for the USB pinout for a Kodak DC280,
>> I should have been clear that I wanted the pinout
>> for the end that plugs into the camera.
>> It appears that it shares the mini-DIN-8 serial
>> connector.
>
>
> Well that's just crazy design... the whole point of USB (well, part of
> it anyway) is to get away from needing a plethora of proprietary
> connectors for everything (I'm still amazed it took celphone makers so
> long to use a standard USB plug for phone software - I've got a
> half-dozen different cables for a half-dozen different phones, three of
> them the same brand).
>
> Sorry, don't think I can help ya there, then... I'd call up Kodak and
> give them an earful...
>
> FWIW, I googled "kodak dc280 usb pinouts" and got a ton of hits -
> including one at the site above - showing the actual pinouts of the DIN
> plug, but all them appear to connect to a standard DB9 serial port
> (which was a lot more common "back in the day"). You can't connect that
> directly into a USB port, however - you'd need to use a USB-to-DB9
> serial adapter, which typically have, I believe, some sort of buffer
> circuitry - they're not just straight-through wires.

Dunno what to tell you. I know how to use a search engine and wouldn't
have asked here if I had found the answer.

There are unused pins on the serial socket. Maybe other pins are usb.

I have also had cameras that used the same pins and somehow detected
which protocol you wanted.

I'm too lazy to reverse engineer it when
anyone with the camera could tell from an ohm-meter and the supplied usb
cable. I'm betting there ain't nothin' but wire and plugs.
mike
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Greetings Mike,

I believe this is what you need. Let me know if you have questions.

USB port specifications are as follows:
a.. Full-speed, 12 Mbps signalling.
b.. Bulk data transfers.
c.. Pin configuration:
Pin No. Pin Name Signal Description
1 USB Vcc USB supply voltage from hub
2 DTR RS-232 Data Terminal Ready
3 TxD RS-232 Transmit Data
4 GND Ground
5 RxD RS-232 Receive Data
6 USB D+ USB data (non-inverted)
7 NC No connection (used as key)
8 USB D- USB data (inverted)


Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company

"mike" <spamme0 RemoveThis @go.com> wrote in message
news:4gERg.1477$Wi1.1184@trnddc06...
> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
> Need to build a cable.
> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
> Yes, I have a card reader.
> What I need is the USB info.
> Thanks, mike
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mike wrote:
> Matt Ion wrote:
>
>> mike wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>>
>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
>>>>> Need to build a cable.
>>>>> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
>>>>> Yes, I have a card reader.
>>>>> What I need is the USB info.
>>>>> Thanks, mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> When I asked for the USB pinout for a Kodak DC280,
>>> I should have been clear that I wanted the pinout
>>> for the end that plugs into the camera.
>>> It appears that it shares the mini-DIN-8 serial
>>> connector.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well that's just crazy design... the whole point of USB (well, part of
>> it anyway) is to get away from needing a plethora of proprietary
>> connectors for everything (I'm still amazed it took celphone makers so
>> long to use a standard USB plug for phone software - I've got a
>> half-dozen different cables for a half-dozen different phones, three
>> of them the same brand).
>>
>> Sorry, don't think I can help ya there, then... I'd call up Kodak and
>> give them an earful...
>>
>> FWIW, I googled "kodak dc280 usb pinouts" and got a ton of hits -
>> including one at the site above - showing the actual pinouts of the
>> DIN plug, but all them appear to connect to a standard DB9 serial port
>> (which was a lot more common "back in the day"). You can't connect
>> that directly into a USB port, however - you'd need to use a
>> USB-to-DB9 serial adapter, which typically have, I believe, some sort
>> of buffer circuitry - they're not just straight-through wires.
>
>
> Dunno what to tell you. I know how to use a search engine and wouldn't
> have asked here if I had found the answer.

Well, search results can vary widely depending on the terms used. I found your
answer right there: http://pinouts.ru/DevicesCables/kodak_serial_pinout.shtml

> There are unused pins on the serial socket. Maybe other pins are usb.

I doubt it... the DC280 is an older camera, from the early days of USB... the
fact that it comes with a DB9 cable is telling.

> I have also had cameras that used the same pins and somehow detected
> which protocol you wanted.

Well, maybe the DC280 does too then. Wire it up and see. The link above shows
you the ground, Tx and Rx pins on the camera plug; the earlier link shows the
pins on a USB connector. I claim no repsonsibility if your camera and/or USB
hub go up in smoke.
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Jimmy wrote:
>>>Thanks, mike
>>
>>For $20+ shipping you can have a new one. Can you build for much less
>>than this?
>>http://kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-path=473&pq-locale=en_US&cameraEkNumber=EKN006595&skuID=S364&Visible=false&navCategory=EKN006595
>>
>
> The Kodak cable item #8112690 works on the following models:
> DC220
> DC240
> DC260
> DC265
> DC280
> DC290
> DC3400
> DC5000
>
>
> Found this one at B&H for $12.95+ shipping. Please note the mfgr number is
> the same as the Kodak number so it should fit.
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?cpncode=08-6817653&src...e=cii_1
>
>


I'm not gonna spend $13+ on a cable for a dollar camera.
And yes, I can build it for ZERO incremental expense.
But I need to know which USB wires go to which pins on the Mini-DIN-8.

Thank you very much for all the advice. Would also be nice to have
an answer to my question. Indications are that this cable came with
each and every of the hundreds of thousands of cameras sold. Somebody
with an ohmmeter oughta have one.

It's not about taking pictures. I gots lots o better ways to do that.
It's about building a cable.

I hate to be bitchy, but if someone asked a similar question and I had
the cable, It would be quicker for me to get out the ohmmeter and
email them the answer, which I would do, than to go searching the web
for purchased cables.

Thanks, mike
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Matt Ion wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>
>>> mike wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt Ion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Need Pinout for USB cable for Kodak DC280
>>>>>> Need to build a cable.
>>>>>> Yes, I have the serial pinout.
>>>>>> Yes, I have a card reader.
>>>>>> What I need is the USB info.
>>>>>> Thanks, mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> When I asked for the USB pinout for a Kodak DC280,
>>>> I should have been clear that I wanted the pinout
>>>> for the end that plugs into the camera.
>>>> It appears that it shares the mini-DIN-8 serial
>>>> connector.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well that's just crazy design... the whole point of USB (well, part
>>> of it anyway) is to get away from needing a plethora of proprietary
>>> connectors for everything (I'm still amazed it took celphone makers
>>> so long to use a standard USB plug for phone software - I've got a
>>> half-dozen different cables for a half-dozen different phones, three
>>> of them the same brand).
>>>
>>> Sorry, don't think I can help ya there, then... I'd call up Kodak and
>>> give them an earful...
>>>
>>> FWIW, I googled "kodak dc280 usb pinouts" and got a ton of hits -
>>> including one at the site above - showing the actual pinouts of the
>>> DIN plug, but all them appear to connect to a standard DB9 serial
>>> port (which was a lot more common "back in the day"). You can't
>>> connect that directly into a USB port, however - you'd need to use a
>>> USB-to-DB9 serial adapter, which typically have, I believe, some sort
>>> of buffer circuitry - they're not just straight-through wires.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dunno what to tell you. I know how to use a search engine and wouldn't
>> have asked here if I had found the answer.
>
>
> Well, search results can vary widely depending on the terms used. I
> found your answer right there:
> http://pinouts.ru/DevicesCables/kodak_serial_pinout.shtml


Ok, let's recalibrate.
My original request was six lines, including the closing.
Line three, repeated here just in case you missed it...
"Yes, I have the serial pinout."
It came from exactly the same page you and others have posted.
What part of "I have the serial pinout" did I fail to adequately
describe????
Just in case I haven't been clear, "I HAVE THE SERIAL PINOUT!!!"
What I need is the pinout for the USB part of the socket.
Admitedly that part of the request was buried way down on line 5.

>
>> There are unused pins on the serial socket. Maybe other pins are usb.
>
>
> I doubt it... the DC280 is an older camera, from the early days of
> USB... the fact that it comes with a DB9 cable is telling.

You're welcome to an opinion...sometimes facts are more helpful.
Here's a quote from an early review
found here: http://www.digitaldtp.com/HTM/Reviews/kodakDC280.htm

"The DC280 comes with both serial and USB cables which both use the same
camera port."

So, my request for information is based on input from someone who has
actually seen/touched/reviewed the camera in question.

Yes, I am frustrated by my continued inability to pose a question
that elicits an answer I can use.
mike
>
>> I have also had cameras that used the same pins and somehow detected
>> which protocol you wanted.
>
>
> Well, maybe the DC280 does too then. Wire it up and see. The link above
> shows you the ground, Tx and Rx pins on the camera plug; the earlier
> link shows the pins on a USB connector. I claim no repsonsibility if
> your camera and/or USB hub go up in smoke.

Yep, that's why I asked the question...in hope that someone would have
an actual answer...
mike
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> I hate to be bitchy, but if someone asked a similar question and I had
> the cable, It would be quicker for me to get out the ohmmeter and
> email them the answer, which I would do, than to go searching the web
> for purchased cables.
>
> Thanks, mike

Mike, sorry for having wasted your time... and mine.
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