Using Photoshop to blur the background (like shallow depth..

"John Navas" <spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:44:58 -1000, Scott W <biphoto RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote
> in <475021ef$0$9607$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>
>>> My camera allows for shallow depth of field, but since I'm human
>>> ( unlike the dSLR jockies , I sometimes have to compensate in post
>>> processing. And I sometimes want special effects that no camera can do.
>>
>>Your camera is very limited on DOF. I shoot for a number of years with
>>a Sony F828, which used a 2/3 sensor and had a lens that was f/2 on the
>>wide angle end and f/2.8 on the tele end.
>
> It's not limiting to me, which is all that matters to me.
>
>>For you to even match the DOF you would need to be able to go to f/1.3
>>on your camera, due to the smaller sensor.
>
> I don't want to match your depth of field.
> What I have is enough for my needs.
>
>>But even the F828 was very limited in what it could do with shallow DOF,
>>about the only way was to shoot from a distance and use the lens at the
>>longest.
>>
>>If you can't see the limit you camera has with DOF then you really don't
>>under stand it very well at all.
>
> Always the insult, when your argument sputters out.

Now I've seen it all.

> You're like a sports car owner bragging how his car can do 180 MPH even
> though it takes you just as long to drive to work as it does me. Just
> like depth of field, what matters is not how fast your car can go, but
> how fast you need it to go.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John Navas <http:/navasgroup.com>
>
> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence,
> whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'

Kevin Weaver wrote:

>> Always the insult, when your argument sputters out.
>
> Now I've seen it all.

In the alt.cellular groups, his continuous content-free responses,
usually consisting of a single line that indicated he had lost the
debate, was enough to convince everyone that he had no idea what he was
talking about. Virtually everyone kill-filed him, and once he no longer
got the reaction he was looking for he eventually gave up. He now only
posts a weekly FAQs about why a specific Motorola charger takes too long
to charge some phones--bizarre but harmless (and ironically he didn't
even get that one right!).

There were several posters that had collections of his content-free
responses and what his responses actually meant (I can't claim credit
for these, but they're still good)

Asked and answered (when he didn't answer)

Do keep up (when he can't follow the thread)

False (when it's true)

Good Scramble (when you expand on a previous post that he pretends
not to understand)

Google is your friend (when he doesn't have an answer)

Grow up (when he's acting like a second grader)

Grow up and get a life (when he's acting like a second grader _and_
when he needs to get a life)

You're just speculating (you have first hand knowledge that has
proven him wrong)

How sad (when he's sad that you've proved him wrong)

I rest my case (when he's lost the debate and given up)

I'm not going to waste any more time on this (when he's lost the
debate and doesn't want to dig himself in any deeper)

I've got to assume you're just being argumentative (when you've
repeatedly shown that he's wrong)

Nonsense (you've accurately explained your position and he can't
come up with any thing you wrote that was wrong)

Nope (Yep)

Not True (True)

Pity

Pot, Kettle, Black (when you've chided him for his misbehavior)

Rubbish (when what' you've posted is true beyond debate)

Thanks for proving my point (when you haven't proven his point)

We'll just have to agree to disagree (when he's lost the debate and
given up)

Always the insult, when your argument sputters out (my argument's
sputtered out so I better accuse you of insulting me so others will feel
sorry for me)

Wrong again (when you're right again)

Wrong on all counts (when you're right on all counts)

You've described yourself quite well (when you've chided him for his
childish behavior)


Always followed by "Best Regards" of course.