Printing Photos

On Sep 7, 3:50 am, "Jonathan" <Jonat... DeleteThis @house.not> wrote:
> LuvLatins wrote:
> > OK now you have taken that perfect picture. What is the best way to
> > print it. I was thinking about the Epson 1800 but how do the pro
> > shops work and can you recommend a good one to use.
>
> > Thanks
>
> For one picture I would take it to a drug store printing machine which
> will give better results and always be cheaper than printing it at home.
> Then take the print to a store that sells printers and ask them to match it
> with one of theirs if they can. Buy the one that comes closest to it if you
> must engage in printing photos at home which will always be of lesser
> quality.


That is kind of a tough thing to do as the Kiosks are dyesub printers
and I don't know any place that sells printers that has them set to
print good photos. If you have a store that will print a real photo
for you, hope you buy the printer from them cause they deserve to stay
in business. Lost the one good camera store in our area with folks
getting the low down on the cameras from guys who knew their business
then saving $10-20 by buying from Best Buy.
In most cases the bigger the printer the less cost. Inks are
substantially cheaper for 17 inch printers than 13 inch or letter
sized printers, at the expenseof initial cost. The Epson 1800 does
great glossy, OK on art papers, marginal in b&w (some do well). The HP
B9180 should also be considered, Larger ink supply 27ml vs 11 ml, inks
may not be any cheaper per ml though. The HP is OK on gloss, good on
art papers, good on b&w. the HP doesn'r have a reputation for clogging
like the Epson, have had one for 7 months without a clog.
Best way to print your 4x6s is to gang them up on a larger sheet them
cut them apart. Costs for a 4x6 should be in the range of or better
than a Kiosk ($.39-$.69) around here and down close to processor run
prints. I have a 17 inch Canon and 4x6s cost me about $.25 each and
look much better than the store processed images.

Good luck
Tom
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On September 7, 2007, LuvLatins wrote:

>OK now you have taken that perfect
> picture. What is the best way to print it.
> I was thinking about the Epson 1800 but
> how do the pro shops work and can you
> recommend a good one to use.

I have an Epson R1800, and have taken the time to learn how to print
properly, which can be tricky if you're not willing to learn about color
management. My results are way better than anything I'd get from the
corner drugstore, on a par with a custom print house, IMO.

Print longevity is better too, the pigment inks don't fade easily, but
if I need a bunch of snapshots printed at 4"x6", I'll often go the
cheaper route and have them printed commercially.

John
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John D. wrote:
> On September 7, 2007, LuvLatins wrote:
>
>> OK now you have taken that perfect
>> picture. What is the best way to print it.
>> I was thinking about the Epson 1800 but
>> how do the pro shops work and can you
>> recommend a good one to use.
>
> I have an Epson R1800, and have taken the time to learn how to print
> properly, which can be tricky if you're not willing to learn about color
> management. My results are way better than anything I'd get from the
> corner drugstore, on a par with a custom print house, IMO.
>
> Print longevity is better too, the pigment inks don't fade easily, but
> if I need a bunch of snapshots printed at 4"x6", I'll often go the
> cheaper route and have them printed commercially.
>
> John
>
I also get much better prints at home, with my Canon iP6700, but at
greater cost than one-hour labs. For routine snapshots (lots of 4x6) I
usually go to Costco or Ritz, where I get the best low-cost prints. I
have a personal rule: I use only places that use Fuji Crystal, which has
excellent longevity.
Allen
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In article <9sp1e3dh62lte669qisk7oeu33g0tbou7o.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>,
LuvLatins <somewhere.TakeThisOut@mexico.com> wrote:

> OK now you have taken that perfect picture. What is the best way to
> print it. I was thinking about the Epson 1800 but how do the pro
> shops work and can you recommend a good one to use.

Depends on the kind of photography you do and the results you want. I
have an Epson 1800 and it does wonderful work at printing my nature
photos.
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On Sep 7, 9:02 am, Marty Fremen <Ma... RemoveThis @fremen.invalid> wrote:
> LuvLatins <somewh... RemoveThis @mexico.com> wrote:
> > OK now you have taken that perfect picture. What is the best way to
> > print it. I was thinking about the Epson 1800 but how do the pro
> > shops work and can you recommend a good one to use.
>
> Plenty of online labs will print your pictures as genuine photographic
> prints on Fuji Crystal Archive paper. Price is typically no more than
> making an inkjet print, and often cheaper, but the quality & fade
> resistence will nearly always be far superior. You just upload your jpegs
> (or possibly tiffs) and they mail you the prints a day or two later.
>
> Many labs offer a test image jpeg and will send you a sample print of same
> which you can use to make sure that your monitor shows the pictures the
> same as they will print them. This is a quick and simple way to roughly
> calibrate your monitor.


Under the same testing procedures Wilhelm labs had Fuji Archive paper
rated at 44 years, the R1800 about 100 (depending on paper), the B9180
close to 200 years, My Canon iPF5000 about 100years. Wilhelm
fortunately or unfortunately is the only lab that tests materials with
the same parameters, generally more rigorous than what the
manufacturers do, Fuji claims 75 years with their accelerated testing
with Crystal Archive, which is still less than pigment inkjets and
some of the new dye inkjets (Epson Claria Inks on the Epson R1400, and
HP Designjets). I find I get much nicer prints using my machine and
have no problems with fading. As I said with a 17inch printer it is
costing me about $.25 per 4x6. It is far more expensive to print on
letter sized printers.

Tom
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