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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:31 pm
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Thanks for all the tips you all gave for my trip to Antarctica last
December.
I'm now off to (Malaysian) Borneo next month (mid March) and will be
undertaking various activities such as mountain biking, jungle
trekking, bamboo rafting, canopy walks, etc.
There will be some opportunities for dedicated transport for our
luggage (such as when cycling) but I am keen to keep everything to a
minimum as I will be carrying most of my gear especially for the
treks through the jungle.
My normal camera gear are:
Canon 40D
10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM EF-S (just purchased this)
16-35mm f2.8 L USM
28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM
70-200m f2.8 L IS USM
70-300m f4-5.6 IS USM
Canon 1.4x Teleconvertor
580EX E-TTL II Flash
Epson P5000
Velba Sherpa lightweight tripod
Gitso carbon-fibre tripod
I normally also carry various battery chargers, filters, lens hoods,
power socket adapters, etc.
This is a lot to carry especially if I carry my spare Canon 30D
camera.
Will I need external flash?
I will leave the Gitso behind as the Velba seems to be quite capable
for this trip.
As per my Antarctica trip, I'll probably leave the 70-200mm f2.8 L IS
USM lens behind as weight is even more of a problem on this trip! I
may get a Kenko 1.4 Teleconvertor for some of the jungle shots but
I'll likely need to manual focus (I can live with that).
What are the minimum set of lenses I'll need for the trip? With the
new 10-22mm lens I'll likely leave behind the 16-35mm lens so that
with save on a lot of weight.
(It's almost got to the point that I don't use the L lenses anymore!)
For this trip, in particular, the following have been recommended to
me:
Sunscreen
Sunglasses
Hat (I've got a Tilly hat so will use that!)
Insect repellent
First aid kit
Mosquito net
Sleeping bag liner
Torch
Boots, trainers and sandals
Leech socks
Holdall
Long sleeved shirt
Long trousers
Light-weight mac
Swimwear
I really, really do not want to take too much with me so am looking
at reducing the camera-related gear.
Should I buy a bunch of 8GB memory cards and not take the Epson
P5000?
Should I purchase one of those plastic waterproof covers for my
camera for rafting?
Should I get a small point-and-shoot camera as a spare rather than
using the 30D as the spare?
I'm likely to be without electricity for several days at a time so am
likely to purchase additional batteries for the camera...which does
tend me to look at getting memory cards rather than using the Epson
P5000.
Also, are there any photographic tips that you can provide about
shooting in the jungle, with subjects such as birds, orangutans, etc?
What sort of rucksack would you recommend? I've already seen the need
for float bags for keeping my gear dry in the event of falling into
the river! I don't think that I'm keen on the Lowe waterproof
bags...they're just so difficult to open/close and I know one person
who had managed to damage the waterproof closure mechanism. I'd
rather use a floatbag inside a rucksack.
Anyway just some thoughts and ramblings, but I'd appreciate any
advice.
Just need to check my vaccinations and anti-Malarial medications now!
Regards,
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Website : www.metalvortex.com
Contact : www.metalvortex.com/contact/
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:31 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:31 pm
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Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
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> I'm now off to (Malaysian) Borneo next month
Sounds fun. Here's what I would bring:
> Canon 40D
> 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM EF-S
> 70-200m f2.8 L IS USM
> 1.4x Teleconvertor
> lightweight tripod
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> (It's almost got to the point that I don't use the L lenses anymore!)
I would rather 2 good lenses than a few. It doesn't hurt to be missing
some of the middle range.
> buy a bunch of 8GB memory cards
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> get a small point-and-shoot camera as a spare rather than
> using the 30D as the spare
Maybe if the 30D stays in the bottom of the suitcase but not out hiking
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:33 pm
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I've travelled extensively across Malaysian Borneo over the years - you
can see my photos in the Malaysia section of my molon.de site.
Don't carry tons of stuff with you, especially if you are planning to do
trekking in the jungle. Every Kg matters.
I've climbed three times Mt Kinabalu and for that I only brought with me
the camera, enough batteries, enough memory cards and a light tripod
(and of course a polariser filter was mounted on the camera).
You'll obviously need some long lens (and a tripod) in case you are
planning to photograph wildlife.
Very important is to have a very good mosquito repellent. The one they
sell here in Germany (Autan) is perfect. The ones they sell locally in
Malaysia don't work (at least not the ones I have tried).
And lastly you don't need any fancy gear. Two lenses could suffice - an
zoom, for instance 24-120 (35mm equiv) and a telezoom for the wildlife
shots.
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Alfred Molon
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:09 pm
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I've been to Borneo a couple of times. I found it much less interesting
photographically than I had expected, with the exception of Mt. Kinabalu. If
you go to the orang sanctuaries you will need a very long lens, as tourists
are kept well back from the animals, which are in a quite artificial setting
(feeding platform, ropes, etc.)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:08 am
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In article <47a68f6a$0$242$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, Toby says...
> If
> you go to the orang sanctuaries you will need a very long lens, as tourists
> are kept well back from the animals, which are in a quite artificial setting
> (feeding platform, ropes, etc.)
Well no, these shots were taken with a 35-105 zoom:
http://www.molon.de/galleries/Malaysia/Sabah/Sepilok/
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Alfred Molon
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:08 am
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"Alfred Molon" <alfred_molon.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2210d845679e076698b95f@news.supernews.com...
> In article <47a68f6a$0$242$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, Toby says...
>> If
>> you go to the orang sanctuaries you will need a very long lens, as
>> tourists
>> are kept well back from the animals, which are in a quite artificial
>> setting
>> (feeding platform, ropes, etc.)
>
> Well no, these shots were taken with a 35-105 zoom:
> http://www.molon.de/galleries/Malaysia/Sabah/Sepilok/
I meant if you are trying to make it look like they are in the wild, i.e.,
excluding all the man-made stuff. You were lucky to have an animal so close
to the trail. That isn't always the case. We had two young ones playing on
the boardwalk, but we were not allowed to stop and take pictures.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:52 pm
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? "Alfred Molon" <alfred_molon DeleteThis @yahoo.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:MPG.2210d845679e076698b95f@news.supernews.com...
> In article <47a68f6a$0$242$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com>, Toby says...
> > If
> > you go to the orang sanctuaries you will need a very long lens, as
tourists
> > are kept well back from the animals, which are in a quite artificial
setting
> > (feeding platform, ropes, etc.)
>
> Well no, these shots were taken with a 35-105 zoom:
> http://www.molon.de/galleries/Malaysia/Sabah/Sepilok/
> --
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Sehr gute Fotos, bravo:-)
The most exotic plave I've ever been is Germany, and Austria.I also seem to
prefer cats to orange utans.Meeeow!
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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 5:17 pm
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 10:36:45 -0500, TH O <tho DeleteThis @tho.23.invalid> wrote:
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>I've never been to Malaysia but my backpacking experience says to keep
>your camera gear as light as possible. 2 or 3 lenses would do.
I'm tending to think that way too.
[snip]
>Add straps on the ends to hold them on during rafting tumbles and during
>biking and hiking.
That's a good idea!
>> Hat (I've got a Tilly hat so will use that!)
>> Insect repellent
>> First aid kit
>> Mosquito net
>> Sleeping bag liner
>
>Are you going up any colder mountains?
No, but a sleeping bag liner on its own should be ideal to use in a
hot climate, I think!
>Also need sleeping pad.
Sure.
>> Torch
>
>Could try LED ... you may not need to replace the battery once on the
>trip.
Thanks. I got one of those, a StormLight. Bought one in 2006, and
it's still got the original set of batteries in it and still going
strong. Will get new set of batteries anyway!
>> Boots, trainers and sandals
>> Leech socks
>> Holdall
>> Long sleeved shirt
>> Long trousers
>
>zip-off nylon. Will dry overnight if you wash before bed.
OK.
>> Light-weight mac
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>Macintosh computer? Too heavy.
Funny  Raincoat!
>> Swimwear
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>Water filter!
OK. I was told to bring water purifier tablets. Would that be used
with the water filter or instead of the water filter?
[snip]
>If you put the lens in a floatbag you'll need padded covers around the
>lenses to keep them safe from bumps and bangs, especially during a
>capsize.
Another good idea.
Everyone else, thanks for all the tips. I'll also take some silica
gel as I think I'm going to get quite wet!
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Kulvinder Singh Matharu
Website : www.metalvortex.com
Contact : www.metalvortex.com/contact/
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:28 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:51 am
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On Feb 3, 8:31 am, Kulvinder Singh Matharu <real-address-
in-....RemoveThis@lineone.net> wrote:
> Thanks for all the tips you all gave for my trip to Antarctica last
> December.
>
> I'm now off to (Malaysian) Borneo next month (mid March) and will be
> undertaking various activities such as mountain biking, jungle
> trekking, bamboo rafting, canopy walks, etc.
>
> Canon 40D
>
> 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM EF-S (just purchased this)
>
> 16-35mm f2.8 L USM
>
> 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM
>
> 70-200m f2.8 L IS USM
>
> 70-300m f4-5.6 IS USM
>
> Canon 1.4x Teleconvertor
>
> 580EX E-TTL II Flash
>
> Epson P5000
>
> Velba Sherpa lightweight tripod
>
> Gitso carbon-fibre tripod
>
> I normally also carry various battery chargers, filters, lens hoods,
> power socket adapters, etc.
>
> This is a lot to carry especially if I carry my spare Canon 30D
> camera.
>
> Will I need external flash?
>
> I will leave the Gitso behind as the Velba seems to be quite capable
> for this trip.
>
> As per my Antarctica trip, I'll probably leave the 70-200mm f2.8 L IS
> USM lens behind as weight is even more of a problem on this trip! I
> may get a Kenko 1.4 Teleconvertor for some of the jungle shots but
> I'll likely need to manual focus (I can live with that).
>
> What are the minimum set of lenses I'll need for the trip? With the
> new 10-22mm lens I'll likely leave behind the 16-35mm lens so that
> with save on a lot of weight.
>
> (It's almost got to the point that I don't use the L lenses anymore!)
>
> For this trip, in particular, the following have been recommended to
> me:
>
> Sunscreen
> Sunglasses
> Hat (I've got a Tilly hat so will use that!)
> Insect repellent
> First aid kit
> Mosquito net
> Sleeping bag liner
> Torch
> Boots, trainers and sandals
> Leech socks
> Holdall
> Long sleeved shirt
> Long trousers
> Light-weight mac
> Swimwear
>
> I really, really do not want to take too much with me so am looking
> at reducing the camera-related gear.
>
> Should I buy a bunch of 8GB memory cards and not take the Epson
> P5000?
>
> Should I purchase one of those plastic waterproof covers for my
> camera for rafting?
>
> Should I get a small point-and-shoot camera as a spare rather than
> using the 30D as the spare?
>
> I'm likely to be without electricity for several days at a time so am
> likely to purchase additional batteries for the camera...which does
> tend me to look at getting memory cards rather than using the Epson
> P5000.
>
> Also, are there any photographic tips that you can provide about
> shooting in the jungle, with subjects such as birds, orangutans, etc?
>
> What sort of rucksack would you recommend? I've already seen the need
> for float bags for keeping my gear dry in the event of falling into
> the river! I don't think that I'm keen on the Lowe waterproof
> bags...they're just so difficult to open/close and I know one person
> who had managed to damage the waterproof closure mechanism. I'd
> rather use a floatbag inside a rucksack.
>
> Anyway just some thoughts and ramblings, but I'd appreciate any
> advice.
>
> Just need to check my vaccinations and anti-Malarial medications now!
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Kulvinder Singh Matharu
Take LOTS of batteries. Get at least another body and leave lenses
attached to all of them permanently. Take the point and shoot too.
In the jungle you will be wet and in a constant cloud of insects. If
you change lenses outside, there will be critters on your sensor and
in your lenses and water everywhere. The insect repellent will eat
plastic. Frans Lanting wrote an article a few years ago in
Shutterbug about a trip to Borneo. It's worth finding the back
issue. As I recall, he killed 12 pro 35mm bodies in three weeks.
Unless you have a really experienced guide, don't go anywhere near the
orangutans...and watch where you step.
Remember what they say about adventures... and have fun.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:10 am
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ah, Borneo... delightful scenery there... however, you'll likely find
that
its more important how you approach your photography there, than
what equipment you take... yes, its all in the approach.
First, Id suggest an armored land rover, and, a few... errr...
assistants.
After locating a good photo site, let one assistant out, then quickly
lock
the door... watch your assistant carefully... if they return in one
piece
after an hour or so, let them in, and make small talk. If you happen
to see your assistant struggling from the forest with a spear in their
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:11 pm
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:51:51 -0800 (PST), Bob Kirkpatrick
<bob.kirkpatrick.RemoveThis@heapg.com> wrote:
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>Take LOTS of batteries. Get at least another body and leave lenses
>attached to all of them permanently. Take the point and shoot too.
>In the jungle you will be wet and in a constant cloud of insects. If
>you change lenses outside, there will be critters on your sensor and
>in your lenses and water everywhere. The insect repellent will eat
>plastic. Frans Lanting wrote an article a few years ago in
>Shutterbug about a trip to Borneo. It's worth finding the back
>issue. As I recall, he killed 12 pro 35mm bodies in three weeks.
I'll have a search. Not sure we get that mag in the UK.
>Unless you have a really experienced guide, don't go anywhere near the
>orangutans...and watch where you step.
Understood!
>Remember what they say about adventures... and have fun.
>Bob Kirkpatrick
Thanks very much
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Kulvinder Singh Matharu
Website : www.metalvortex.com
Contact : www.metalvortex.com/contact/
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:15 pm
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In article <bdc5e568-bb74-4731-a92b-
f9dff4c2edbb.DeleteThis@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, Bob Kirkpatrick says...
> Take LOTS of batteries.
Nonsense. Two, max. three sets of batteries and a charger will be more
than sufficient. Today's cameras have a very long battery life. With my
current camera I'm unable to empty *one* set of batteries on a very good
day.
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Alfred Molon
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:51 pm
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Bob Kirkpatrick wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:31 am, Kulvinder Singh Matharu <real-address-
> in-....TakeThisOut@lineone.net> wrote:
>> Thanks for all the tips you all gave for my trip to Antarctica last
>> December.
>>
>> I'm now off to (Malaysian) Borneo next month (mid March) and will be
>> undertaking various activities such as mountain biking, jungle
>> trekking, bamboo rafting, canopy walks, etc.
>>
>
>> Canon 40D
>>
>> 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM EF-S (just purchased this)
>>
>> 16-35mm f2.8 L USM
>>
>> 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM
>>
>> 70-200m f2.8 L IS USM
>>
>> 70-300m f4-5.6 IS USM
>>
>> Canon 1.4x Teleconvertor
>>
>> 580EX E-TTL II Flash
>>
>> Epson P5000
>>
>> Velba Sherpa lightweight tripod
>>
>> Gitso carbon-fibre tripod
>>
>> I normally also carry various battery chargers, filters, lens hoods,
>> power socket adapters, etc.
>>
>> This is a lot to carry especially if I carry my spare Canon 30D
>> camera.
>>
>> Will I need external flash?
>>
>> I will leave the Gitso behind as the Velba seems to be quite capable
>> for this trip.
>>
>> As per my Antarctica trip, I'll probably leave the 70-200mm f2.8 L IS
>> USM lens behind as weight is even more of a problem on this trip! I
>> may get a Kenko 1.4 Teleconvertor for some of the jungle shots but
>> I'll likely need to manual focus (I can live with that).
>>
>> What are the minimum set of lenses I'll need for the trip? With the
>> new 10-22mm lens I'll likely leave behind the 16-35mm lens so that
>> with save on a lot of weight.
>>
>> (It's almost got to the point that I don't use the L lenses anymore!)
>>
>> For this trip, in particular, the following have been recommended to
>> me:
>>
>> Sunscreen
>> Sunglasses
>> Hat (I've got a Tilly hat so will use that!)
>> Insect repellent
>> First aid kit
>> Mosquito net
>> Sleeping bag liner
>> Torch
>> Boots, trainers and sandals
>> Leech socks
>> Holdall
>> Long sleeved shirt
>> Long trousers
>> Light-weight mac
>> Swimwear
>>
>> I really, really do not want to take too much with me so am looking
>> at reducing the camera-related gear.
>>
>> Should I buy a bunch of 8GB memory cards and not take the Epson
>> P5000?
>>
>> Should I purchase one of those plastic waterproof covers for my
>> camera for rafting?
>>
>> Should I get a small point-and-shoot camera as a spare rather than
>> using the 30D as the spare?
>>
>> I'm likely to be without electricity for several days at a time so am
>> likely to purchase additional batteries for the camera...which does
>> tend me to look at getting memory cards rather than using the Epson
>> P5000.
>>
>> Also, are there any photographic tips that you can provide about
>> shooting in the jungle, with subjects such as birds, orangutans, etc?
>>
>> What sort of rucksack would you recommend? I've already seen the need
>> for float bags for keeping my gear dry in the event of falling into
>> the river! I don't think that I'm keen on the Lowe waterproof
>> bags...they're just so difficult to open/close and I know one person
>> who had managed to damage the waterproof closure mechanism. I'd
>> rather use a floatbag inside a rucksack.
>>
>> Anyway just some thoughts and ramblings, but I'd appreciate any
>> advice.
>>
>> Just need to check my vaccinations and anti-Malarial medications now!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Kulvinder Singh Matharu
>
> Take LOTS of batteries. Get at least another body and leave lenses
> attached to all of them permanently. Take the point and shoot too.
> In the jungle you will be wet and in a constant cloud of insects. If
> you change lenses outside, there will be critters on your sensor and
> in your lenses and water everywhere. The insect repellent will eat
> plastic. Frans Lanting wrote an article a few years ago in
> Shutterbug about a trip to Borneo. It's worth finding the back
> issue. As I recall, he killed 12 pro 35mm bodies in three weeks.
>
> Unless you have a really experienced guide, don't go anywhere near the
> orangutans...and watch where you step.
>
> Remember what they say about adventures... and have fun.
> Bob Kirkpatrick
>
>
Those places of interest that you mentioned - they all have power to
charge your batteries.
Borneo is now a VERY civilized place - tons of tourists. Have been there
many, many times.
There are NO issues with changing lens, be it indoor or outdoor! (unless
in the open rain or rafting!) I have NEVER lost/damanged any camera
bodies whilst there! Just use common sense!
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