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Atheist Chaplain

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:25 am
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"Alien Jones" wrote in message

> rfischer RemoveThis @sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
>
>
>> Jeff R. wrote:
>>>Alien Jones wrote:
>>>> "Jeff R." wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>> This nonsense could go on ad infinitum, or you could do the Manly
>>>>> thing, Doug.
>>>>
>>>> Just goes to show what feral idiot you are. It wouldn't matter what
>>>> I or anyone else did or said, you'just do as you please like a good
>>>> hoon.
>>>>
>>>> No regard for the law, no principals, no ethics, just FTW aproach to
>>>> everything. What a swine of a person you confess to being.
>>>
>>>No, Doug.
>>>I'm just telling you how I will respond to your impotent threats and
>>>your ongoing stalking campaign.
>>
>> You stated that you don't care what the law is, you'll continue to
>> steal other people's work.
>>
>> I'd say he was accurate in saying that you're a feral idiot.
>>
>> "Sociopath" is another word.
>>
>>>Oh! ...and I do have a principal (sic),
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>
> What the idiots don't tell you Ray is that I posted a complete example of
> the process along with all the images I made it from here:
> http://www.d-mac.info/examples/4theidiots.htm
>
> The notion someone else can decide when and where I post my web pages and
> who actaully controls what of my copyright images are published and where
> they are published is absurd.
>
> The copyright laws exist to protect me from feral idiots like these two.

but it doesn't include ALL THE IMAGES Doug, so yet again you lie, there are
parts of the (for want of a better word) finished article that have no
relation to any of the images you said were the source images. the end
result has lost the concrete pathway, a tree starts growing in mid air,
there is a stairway to nowhere, a one legged bench and a whole raft of
perspective and alignment errors that you tried to hide behind hastily
place, pasted in trees.
You really are delusional if you keep bringing that complete hodgepodge of
an image and call it a stepped out or linear panorama, even Picasso would
get sea sick looking at it.

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Jeff R.

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:25 am
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Atheist Chaplain wrote:
> "Alien Jones" wrote in message
>> The copyright laws exist to protect me from feral idiots like these
>> two.
>
> but it doesn't include ALL THE IMAGES Doug, so yet again you lie,
> there are parts of the (for want of a better word) finished article
> that have no relation to any of the images you said were the source
> images. the end result has lost the concrete pathway,

No no no, AC, You must have missed Doug's earlier post.
Doug's "client" for that photo *asked* him to to remove the path.

mmmpphhhh...
ROTFLMAO!

Fair dinkum - you couldn't make this stuff up.

> ... a tree starts
> growing in mid air, there is a stairway to nowhere, a one legged
> bench and a whole raft of perspective and alignment errors that you
> tried to hide behind hastily place, pasted in trees.
> You really are delusional if you keep bringing that complete
> hodgepodge of an image and call it a stepped out or linear panorama,
> even Picasso would get sea sick looking at it.

I *betch'a* Doug's "client" asked for all those changes, too.

Wait and see.

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Jeff R.

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:25 am
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Alien Jones wrote:
>
> What the idiots don't tell you Ray is that I posted a complete
> example of the process along with all the images I made it from here:
> http://www.d-mac.info/examples/4theidiots.htm

....where he trys to (unsuccessfully) weasel out of admitting that he cannot
produce the panorama described on this page:
http://www.mendosus.com/photography/doug.html

>
> The notion someone else can decide when and where I post my web pages
> and who actaully controls what of my copyright images are published
> and where they are published is absurd.

You misunderstand Doug. I am just trying to give you an opportunity to
prove me wrong - which you have failed at miserably to date.

>
> The copyright laws exist to protect me from feral idiots like these
> two.

Working well so far, Doug? http://www.mendosus.com/photography/doug.html

Do the Manly thing, Doug.

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Atheist Chaplain

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:25 am
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"Jeff R." wrote in message

> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>> "Alien Jones" wrote in message
>>> The copyright laws exist to protect me from feral idiots like these
>>> two.
>>
>> but it doesn't include ALL THE IMAGES Doug, so yet again you lie,
>> there are parts of the (for want of a better word) finished article
>> that have no relation to any of the images you said were the source
>> images. the end result has lost the concrete pathway,
>
> No no no, AC, You must have missed Doug's earlier post.
> Doug's "client" for that photo *asked* him to to remove the path.
>

just goes to show I dont read all of Douggies post's Smile


> mmmpphhhh...
> ROTFLMAO!
>
> Fair dinkum - you couldn't make this stuff up.
>
>> ... a tree starts
>> growing in mid air, there is a stairway to nowhere, a one legged
>> bench and a whole raft of perspective and alignment errors that you
>> tried to hide behind hastily place, pasted in trees.
>> You really are delusional if you keep bringing that complete
>> hodgepodge of an image and call it a stepped out or linear panorama,
>> even Picasso would get sea sick looking at it.
>
> I *betch'a* Doug's "client" asked for all those changes, too.
>

he will, and totaly ignore the fact that you proposed these excuses, and in
about a month he will call you a liar and a thief for even sugesting that it
was your idea all along Smile
I might just forward the "image" to a friend who is the Art teacher at one
of the Schools I used to do work for, She might want to give it to one of
her Photography classes to disect, just as an educational way of showing
them that not everyone is an expert with Photoshop.

> Wait and see.
>
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Paul Furman

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:20 pm
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Paul Furman wrote:
> jimkramer wrote:
>> Paul Furman wrote
>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>> Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>> Helen wrote:
>>>>>> Most of my work is b&w, if that opens any further suggestions. Silly
>>>>>> question but I have to ask: do any of these printers give the same
>>>>>> archival quality as a b&w lab would?
>>>>> Use pigment based inks on acid free paper and mount with an air gap
>>>>> behing UV glass and you're looking at 100+ years.
>>>> That all depends upon the inks and the maker of the inks. And it's
>>>> still nothing close to what B&W paper can do.
>>> Factory inks are a given if you want 100 years life, 3rd party may be
>>> fine but it's unknown. I've sent out for Lightjet color prints
>>> ('real' photo paper) for larger sizes than 13x19 on my Epson R1800*
>>> but I'm not aware of a B&W paper for that, though I know a guy that
>>> does B&W on lightjet for selling as fine art prints with their color
>>> paper and no complaints. To do B&W on an inkjet, you'd want to
>>> dedicate a printer to B&W with a B&W ink set, continuous flow system
>>> with bottles & tubes and that's untested 3rd party ink.
>>>
>>> Epson R1800*
>>> My way of measuring ink use is to keep all my spent cartridges. Over
>>> a couple/few? years I've used:
>>> 3 red
>>> 4 blue
>>> 4 matte black
>>> 5 gloss optimizer
>>> 6 photo black
>>> 8 magenta
>>> 10 cyan
>>> 10 yellow
>>>
>>> That's a mix of gloss & matte paper, not much document printing
>>> (stinks at that anyways) and a lot of green landscapes & plant shots.
>>> 50 carts at $13 each I think from Calumet (would be $11 I think
>>> online but easier to go 10 blocks away & buy), so $650 which is about
>>> what the printer cost and a bunch of expensive paper. I like being
>>> able to test and experiment though.
>>
>> Looking at that list of dead soldiers makes me happy I went with the
>> 4800; 220ml cartridges. Smile
>
> Nice. The R1800 and R2400 take 100ml carts (per a cursory google
> search), Alan mentions the 3800 has 80ml carts, and the R800 15ml.
>
>> You don't have light black and light light black inks to use on that
>> machine and that is what you need to do decent B&W prints on an ink jet.
>
> A couple years old is ancient technology Sad
>
>
>> I've already forgotten the sister machine to the R1800 that was for
>> B&W too. R2400?
>
> Not sure, an associate just got a 1400 for about $350,

This one looks to have the same size carts as my 1800 but a different
ink set with light version of colors and only one black, not gloss & matte.

> I think the 1800
> was more like $800 when it was the latest model.
>


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Tzortzakakis Dimitrios

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(Msg. 66) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:25 pm
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? "Helen" ?????? ??? ??????

On Oct 6, 5:29 pm, ray wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:31:50 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
> > ray wrote:
> >> On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:33:15 -0700, Helen wrote:
>
> >>> I needed to downsize the contents of my home, so I decided to sell
> >>> things I have no use for. I made a tidy sum of approximately $600.
> >>> I'm looking for a good photo printer. I'll be honest, I know nothing
> >>> about them, so I decided to ask the pros on the groups before I go
> >>> into a photo shop and be at the mercy of some salesperson. Thanks for
> >>> your help.
>
> >> I'm not a 'pro', but I'd suggest you also consider the cost of
> >> consummables i.e. ink. That can be a major deal if you do much
> >> printing. FWIW the Kodak all-in-ones claim to have an ink cost about
> >> 1/2 of the competition.
>
> > I looked at Kodak closely before not going there. Mainly page size
> > limitations. They make no wide carriage printers. For Helen's
> > purposes, she might not get the archival results desired.
>
> That is a distinct possibility. It is impossible to tell from the OP
> exactly what the requirements are.


Alan is correct, as I mentioned in a reply on this thread, most of my
work is b&w. I also asked if archival prints are possible.
Helen

<end quote>
Yes, with the ink I am currently using, Chroma life 100, as its name
implies. (On the Canon Pixma iP 4300;if you think it's too cheap you can go
to the next model, 5500 or whatever). This ink is the standard Canon ink.
You can use then Canon Photo Paper Pro. Also, regular chemical prints are
not forever"Colour dyes may in time change".

HTH.HAND.


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