Palace of Fine Arts

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:13:38 +0000, DustinR. wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas
> <spamfilter1 DeleteThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
>
> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that
> POS P&S camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at
> least used an f/1.4 prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings'
> shadows at night. I suspect your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too
> considering the low noise levels. You must've had to use pretty high
> ISOs to get that image.
>
> Nice example.
>
> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
>
>

Ha,ha,ha. P&S lesson 101! Six second exposure sure would have cramped
your hand... Should have used a tripod!

Douglas

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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1 DeleteThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:

><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>

The silence is deafening.

Where oh where are all the DSLR advocates?

See, this is why I don't post mine, it's just too easy to shut them up. There
goes all the fun.


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In article <r9btj355rhluk7apkokmu130ng7i1hqe1t DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
DustinR. <drankin4903 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1 DeleteThis @navasgroup.com>
> wrote:
>
> ><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
>
> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that POS P&S
> camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at least used an
> f/1.4
> prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings' shadows at night. I
> suspect
> your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too considering the low noise
> levels.
> You must've had to use pretty high ISOs to get that image.
>
> Nice example.
>
> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
>
>

http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/

Taken back in 2002 on the SF Bay Photo Group's second meeting -
when I had a P&S
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:26:17 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in
<mcmurtri-078910.21261717112007.DeleteThis@news.dslextreme.com>:

>In article <r9btj355rhluk7apkokmu130ng7i1hqe1t.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> DustinR. <drankin4903.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1.DeleteThis@navasgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
>>
>> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that POS P&S
>> camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at least used an
>> f/1.4
>> prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings' shadows at night. I
>> suspect
>> your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too considering the low noise
>> levels.
>> You must've had to use pretty high ISOs to get that image.
>>
>> Nice example.
>>
>> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
>>
>>
>
>http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/
>
>Taken back in 2002 on the SF Bay Photo Group's second meeting -
>when I had a P&S

You really think
<http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/011.JPG>
measures up to my image?

p.s. You apparently missed the sarcasm and leaped to conclusions -- my
image was taken with my FZ8.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:19:41 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:26:17 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
><mcmurtri RemoveThis @dslextreme.com> wrote in
><mcmurtri-078910.21261717112007 RemoveThis @news.dslextreme.com>:
>
>>In article <r9btj355rhluk7apkokmu130ng7i1hqe1t RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
>> DustinR. <drankin4903 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1 RemoveThis @navasgroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
>>>
>>> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that POS P&S
>>> camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at least used an
>>> f/1.4
>>> prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings' shadows at night. I
>>> suspect
>>> your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too considering the low noise
>>> levels.
>>> You must've had to use pretty high ISOs to get that image.
>>>
>>> Nice example.
>>>
>>> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/
>>
>>Taken back in 2002 on the SF Bay Photo Group's second meeting -
>>when I had a P&S
>
>You really think
><http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/011.JPG>
>measures up to my image?
>
>p.s. You apparently missed the sarcasm and leaped to conclusions -- my
>image was taken with my FZ8.

Awww shucks, now you went and spoiled all the fun.

I've got some remarkable P&S aurora photos and constellation photos. One that
I'm particularly fond of. A rainbow hued moonset on a remote island-dotted,
mirror-still, lake that takes your breath away. You have no idea how difficult
it was to under-expose that one just right to get it to look like a moonset and
not just another sunset. That is the biggest challenge of the thousands of
moonlit photos that I've taken with my P&S cameras, capturing too much light
rather than too little.

If I shared any of those at full resolution the suicide rates in the DSLR camps
would drastically rise. I refrain from posting those so as not to completely
challenge their mental-health (what's left of it).

Interesting in that the deafening silence from the DSLR proponents persists.
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OK - I'll be the first of the DSLR guys to comment - Nice shot.

On Nov 18 2007 10:09 PM, DustinR. wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 01:19:41 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1.DeleteThis@navasgroup.com>
wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:26:17 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
> ><mcmurtri.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> ><mcmurtri-078910.21261717112007.DeleteThis@news.dslextreme.com>:
> >
> >>In article <r9btj355rhluk7apkokmu130ng7i1hqe1t.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> >> DustinR. <drankin4903.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter1.DeleteThis@navasgroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
> >>>
> >>> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that
POS P&S
> >>> camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at least used
an
> >>> f/1.4
> >>> prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings' shadows at night. I
> >>> suspect
> >>> your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too considering the low noise
> >>> levels.
> >>> You must've had to use pretty high ISOs to get that image.
> >>>
> >>> Nice example.
> >>>
> >>> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/
> >>
> >>Taken back in 2002 on the SF Bay Photo Group's second meeting -
> >>when I had a P&S
> >
> >You really think
> ><http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/011.JPG>
> >measures up to my image?
> >
> >p.s. You apparently missed the sarcasm and leaped to conclusions -- my
> >image was taken with my FZ8.
>
> Awww shucks, now you went and spoiled all the fun.
>
> I've got some remarkable P&S aurora photos and constellation photos. One that
> I'm particularly fond of. A rainbow hued moonset on a remote island-dotted,
> mirror-still, lake that takes your breath away. You have no idea how
difficult
> it was to under-expose that one just right to get it to look like a moonset
and
> not just another sunset. That is the biggest challenge of the thousands of
> moonlit photos that I've taken with my P&S cameras, capturing too much light
> rather than too little.
>
> If I shared any of those at full resolution the suicide rates in the DSLR
camps
> would drastically rise. I refrain from posting those so as not to completely
> challenge their mental-health (what's left of it).
>
> Interesting in that the deafening silence from the DSLR proponents persists.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:54:30 -0800, "Juan Moore Beer"
<juanmoorebeer.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in <6mk815x5l4.ln2.RemoveThis@recgroups.com>:

>OK - I'll be the first of the DSLR guys to comment - Nice shot.

Thank you. Of course DSLRs take nice shots too.

What matters is the photographer, not the tool.

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In article <p1p1k31dp0bd396ho29i9h9v97la3urph5.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1.RemoveThis@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:26:17 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
> <mcmurtri.RemoveThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in
> <mcmurtri-078910.21261717112007.RemoveThis@news.dslextreme.com>:
>
> >In article <r9btj355rhluk7apkokmu130ng7i1hqe1t.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> > DustinR. <drankin4903.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:44:23 GMT, John Navas <spamfilter1.RemoveThis@navasgroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> ><http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/9812/p1030674qy8.jpg>
> >>
> >> Finally. It's about time that you came to your senses and dumped that POS
> >> P&S
> >> camera and got a decent D-SLR and L-glass. You must have at least used an
> >> f/1.4
> >> prime lens to get that much detail in the buildings' shadows at night. I
> >> suspect
> >> your camera has a full-frame CMOS sensor too considering the low noise
> >> levels.
> >> You must've had to use pretty high ISOs to get that image.
> >>
> >> Nice example.
> >>
> >> Now if only P&S cameras could do that well.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/
> >
> >Taken back in 2002 on the SF Bay Photo Group's second meeting -
> >when I had a P&S
>
> You really think
> <http://www.pixelmemory.us/Photos/SF%20Bay%20Photo/Aug%2024%202002/011.JPG>
> measures up to my image?
>
> p.s. You apparently missed the sarcasm and leaped to conclusions -- my
> image was taken with my FZ8.

I was playing along, actually.
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:34:06 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri.DeleteThis@dslextreme.com> wrote in
<mcmurtri-20DAD8.20340619112007.DeleteThis@news.dslextreme.com>:

>In article <p1p1k31dp0bd396ho29i9h9v97la3urph5.DeleteThis@4ax.com>,
> John Navas <spamfilter1.DeleteThis@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>> p.s. You apparently missed the sarcasm and leaped to conclusions -- my
>> image was taken with my FZ8.
>
>I was playing along, actually.

Right.

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John Navas
Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others)
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