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Since: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 704
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:32 am
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SS wrote:
> I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e. quite
> large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding these
> large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever the
> ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I don't
> want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> visible on such a small print
You will want to resize to about 300 ppi, which would work out of 1800
x 1200.
Whereas 1280 x 960 would make an ok print it would not be as sharp as
1800 x 1200. Going past 1800 x 1200 will show little if any
improvment.
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:32 am
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SS wrote:
> I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e. quite
> large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding these
> large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever the
> ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I don't
> want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> visible on such a small print
You will want to resize to about 300 ppi, which would work out of 1800
x 1200.
Whereas 1280 x 960 would make an ok print it would not be as sharp as
1800 x 1200. Going past 1800 x 1200 will show little if any
improvment.
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:32 am
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SS wrote:
> I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e. quite
> large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding these
> large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever the
> ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I don't
> want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> visible on such a small print
You will want to resize to about 300 ppi, which would work out of 1800
x 1200.
Whereas 1280 x 960 would make an ok print it would not be as sharp as
1800 x 1200. Going past 1800 x 1200 will show little if any
improvment.
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Since: Nov 22, 2005 Posts: 53
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:42 am
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"Roy G" <roy.gibson1 RemoveThis @REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "SS" <xsx2000x RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> > quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> > the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
> >
> >
>
> Strange as it may seem, the number of pixels required to give a 6 x 4
print
> proportion, have to be proportional to 6 x 4.
>
> 1280 x 960 does not acheive this.
>
> The only difficult maths involved is to multiply the number of inches on
the
> long side by the required Ppi figure (300) and then to multiply the
number
> of inches on the short side by that same number.
>
> The answer comes out at 1800 x 1200 pixels.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
Yes as I said "or whatever the ratio is" I just didn't have my calculator
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:42 am
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"Roy G" <roy.gibson1.TakeThisOut@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "SS" <xsx2000x.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> > quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> > the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
> >
> >
>
> Strange as it may seem, the number of pixels required to give a 6 x 4
print
> proportion, have to be proportional to 6 x 4.
>
> 1280 x 960 does not acheive this.
>
> The only difficult maths involved is to multiply the number of inches on
the
> long side by the required Ppi figure (300) and then to multiply the
number
> of inches on the short side by that same number.
>
> The answer comes out at 1800 x 1200 pixels.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
Yes as I said "or whatever the ratio is" I just didn't have my calculator
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:42 am
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"Roy G" <roy.gibson1.RemoveThis@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "SS" <xsx2000x.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> > quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> > the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
> >
> >
>
> Strange as it may seem, the number of pixels required to give a 6 x 4
print
> proportion, have to be proportional to 6 x 4.
>
> 1280 x 960 does not acheive this.
>
> The only difficult maths involved is to multiply the number of inches on
the
> long side by the required Ppi figure (300) and then to multiply the
number
> of inches on the short side by that same number.
>
> The answer comes out at 1800 x 1200 pixels.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
Yes as I said "or whatever the ratio is" I just didn't have my calculator
handy. I would have to crop to the appropriate ratio. >> Stay informed about: Optimum Resolution for Printing Photos |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:42 am
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"Roy G" <roy.gibson1 RemoveThis @REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "SS" <xsx2000x RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> > quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> > the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
> >
> >
>
> Strange as it may seem, the number of pixels required to give a 6 x 4
print
> proportion, have to be proportional to 6 x 4.
>
> 1280 x 960 does not acheive this.
>
> The only difficult maths involved is to multiply the number of inches on
the
> long side by the required Ppi figure (300) and then to multiply the
number
> of inches on the short side by that same number.
>
> The answer comes out at 1800 x 1200 pixels.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
Yes as I said "or whatever the ratio is" I just didn't have my calculator
handy. I would have to crop to the appropriate ratio. >> Stay informed about: Optimum Resolution for Printing Photos |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:42 am
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"Roy G" <roy.gibson1 DeleteThis @REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "SS" <xsx2000x DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> > quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> > the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
> >
> >
>
> Strange as it may seem, the number of pixels required to give a 6 x 4
print
> proportion, have to be proportional to 6 x 4.
>
> 1280 x 960 does not acheive this.
>
> The only difficult maths involved is to multiply the number of inches on
the
> long side by the required Ppi figure (300) and then to multiply the
number
> of inches on the short side by that same number.
>
> The answer comes out at 1800 x 1200 pixels.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 am
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"Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <dimtzort.DeleteThis@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ο "SS" <xsx2000x.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
>
> Why not go to a local lab in your town and have them printed there?Where I
> live you can take your memory card (any type) or a cd to a machine and
> choose via touch screen size, picture, number of reprints etc.by yourself
> and even know how much it costs before printing out the receipt and
handing
> it to a clerk.
>
>
>
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering
> mechanized infantry reservist
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>
>
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 am
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"Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <dimtzort.RemoveThis@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ο "SS" <xsx2000x.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
>
> Why not go to a local lab in your town and have them printed there?Where I
> live you can take your memory card (any type) or a cd to a machine and
> choose via touch screen size, picture, number of reprints etc.by yourself
> and even know how much it costs before printing out the receipt and
handing
> it to a clerk.
>
>
>
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering
> mechanized infantry reservist
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>
>
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 am
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"Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <dimtzort RemoveThis @otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ο "SS" <xsx2000x RemoveThis @yahoo.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
>
> Why not go to a local lab in your town and have them printed there?Where I
> live you can take your memory card (any type) or a cd to a machine and
> choose via touch screen size, picture, number of reprints etc.by yourself
> and even know how much it costs before printing out the receipt and
handing
> it to a clerk.
>
>
>
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering
> mechanized infantry reservist
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>
>
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 am
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"Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <dimtzort.RemoveThis@otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ο "SS" <xsx2000x.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
>
> Why not go to a local lab in your town and have them printed there?Where I
> live you can take your memory card (any type) or a cd to a machine and
> choose via touch screen size, picture, number of reprints etc.by yourself
> and even know how much it costs before printing out the receipt and
handing
> it to a clerk.
>
>
>
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering
> mechanized infantry reservist
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>
>
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 am
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"Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <dimtzort DeleteThis @otenet.gr> wrote in message
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> Ο "SS" <xsx2000x DeleteThis @yahoo.com> έγραψε στο μήνυμα
> news:rSC7h.17827$Xh3.13727@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> > done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e.
> quite
> > large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding
these
> > large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever
> the
> > ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I
don't
> > want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> > visible on such a small print
>
> Why not go to a local lab in your town and have them printed there?Where I
> live you can take your memory card (any type) or a cd to a machine and
> choose via touch screen size, picture, number of reprints etc.by yourself
> and even know how much it costs before printing out the receipt and
handing
> it to a clerk.
>
>
>
> --
> Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
> major in electrical engineering
> mechanized infantry reservist
> dimtzort AT otenet DOT gr
>
>
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:21 pm
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SS wrote:
> I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e. quite
> large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding these
> large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever the
> ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I don't
> want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> visible on such a small print
The most common native resolution for digital photo lab printers
is 300 pixels per inch, followed by 400ppi. If you can find what
machine they use, you can Google up its native resolution. In a
theoretical sense, the native resolution is the ideal for your
files, and some adjustments, sharpening in particular, are best
done at the final display resolution.
Alas, life seldom conforms to the ideal.
The lab will re-rasterize your photo automatically, and even if
you deliver a file in its native resolution, the resizing is
probably not a no-op. The cheap photo labs are set up to serve a
mass market. Most will automatically apply transforms such as
sharpening and contrast enhancement to give direct-from-the-camera
files more "pop". For adventures in getting exact results from
low-cost services, browse www.drycreekphoto.com.
At 5p per print, I suggest experimentation. One tip from my own
trials: tracking what parameters applied to each trial takes
significant diligence. Not that it's hard to get right; it's
just easy to get wrong.
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:21 pm
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SS wrote:
> I'm going to get 150 of my photo files printed at Asda as I can get them
> done for 5p each at that quantity. Most of my files are at 7 mpx i.e. quite
> large. The prints are 6" x 4" therefore is it actually worth sinding these
> large files or should I re-size to say 1280 x 960 (1.3 mpx) or whatever the
> ratio is to give 6 x 4. Digital prints do show a lot of detail and I don't
> want to lose that but I can't see all the detail on a 7 mpx file being
> visible on such a small print
The most common native resolution for digital photo lab printers
is 300 pixels per inch, followed by 400ppi. If you can find what
machine they use, you can Google up its native resolution. In a
theoretical sense, the native resolution is the ideal for your
files, and some adjustments, sharpening in particular, are best
done at the final display resolution.
Alas, life seldom conforms to the ideal.
The lab will re-rasterize your photo automatically, and even if
you deliver a file in its native resolution, the resizing is
probably not a no-op. The cheap photo labs are set up to serve a
mass market. Most will automatically apply transforms such as
sharpening and contrast enhancement to give direct-from-the-camera
files more "pop". For adventures in getting exact results from
low-cost services, browse www.drycreekphoto.com.
At 5p per print, I suggest experimentation. One tip from my own
trials: tracking what parameters applied to each trial takes
significant diligence. Not that it's hard to get right; it's
just easy to get wrong.
--
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Printing from USB Drive - Hy guys, I bought a EPSON DX 5000 which supports USB Direct Print. I can print from my camera , but I would e able to print from my usb thumb drive...maye after editing from the pc...but how can i do that??? thanks a lot.. bye!!! andr |
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