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John Ortt

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:10 pm
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Hi everyone,

My colleague and I are having a discussion on the relative merits of
printing digital photos at home or printing them using an online retailer
(such as photobox). On most issues we are pretty much agreeing but he
thinks that you get the same quality from the home printers as you do from
the multimillion pound machines that the professional development companies
use. I disagree.
I have no experience with professionnal inkjet printers but in my experience
of sub-£500 units I do not believe they match the vibrancy, accuracy and
consistency of their big brothers.

What are your experiences?

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Jim Townsend

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:10 pm
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AustinMN

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:10 pm
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Jim Townsend wrote:
> John Ortt wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
>
> > My colleague and I are having a discussion on the relative merits of
> > printing digital photos at home or printing them using an online retailer
> > (such as photobox).

<snip>

> My printer has been out of red ink for about a month now and I
> see no urgency to replace the cartridge. That's how much I use it Smile

/sarcastic mode = on
I guess that makes you an expert...
/sarcastic mode = off

Austin
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Jim Townsend

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:10 pm
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Alex

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:28 pm
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Two other questions:

- are the ones you get printed elsewhere liquid proof?
- do they fade like consumer injet printed photos do?

Alex

"AustinMN" <tacooper260 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127841405.699374.171980@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Jim Townsend wrote:
> > John Ortt wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> >
> > > My colleague and I are having a discussion on the relative merits of
> > > printing digital photos at home or printing them using an online
retailer
> > > (such as photobox).
>
> <snip>
>
> > My printer has been out of red ink for about a month now and I
> > see no urgency to replace the cartridge. That's how much I use it Smile
>
> /sarcastic mode = on
> I guess that makes you an expert...
> /sarcastic mode = off
>
> Austin
>
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Jim Townsend

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:28 pm
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Morton Linder

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:24 pm
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Alex wrote:
> Two other questions:
>
> - are the ones you get printed elsewhere liquid proof?
> - do they fade like consumer injet printed photos do?
>
> Alex
>
> "AustinMN" <tacooper260.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1127841405.699374.171980@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Jim Townsend wrote:
>>
>>>John Ortt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>>My colleague and I are having a discussion on the relative merits of
>>>>printing digital photos at home or printing them using an online
>
> retailer
>
>>>>(such as photobox).
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>My printer has been out of red ink for about a month now and I
>>>see no urgency to replace the cartridge. That's how much I use it Smile
>>
>>/sarcastic mode = on
>>I guess that makes you an expert...
>>/sarcastic mode = off
>>
>>Austin
>>
>
>
>
HP ink cartridges and HP Premium Plus paper are certified by the Wilhelm
Institute not to fade under normal use for something like 110 years.
Good digital prints can be made at home, and the ability to sharpen,
crop, and correct may be important to many people who print at home or work.
Morton
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Bill

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:00 pm
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irwell

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:28 am
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:10:09 -0500, Jim Townsend <not.DeleteThis@real.address>
wrote:

>AustinMN wrote:
>
>> Jim Townsend wrote:
>
>>> My printer has been out of red ink for about a month now and I
>>> see no urgency to replace the cartridge. That's how much I use it Smile
>>
>> /sarcastic mode = on
>> I guess that makes you an expert...
>> /sarcastic mode = off
>>
>> Austin
>
>LOL.. I should qualify my statement.. I *used* to use my printers
>a lot, (I've had several over the years), but with the proliferation
>of photo stores that provide emulsion prints, I no longer use my printer
>as much Smile
>
It would probably be wise to replace 'out of ink' cartridge
to forestall any dried nozzle problems.
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Ron Baird

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:57 am
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Greetings,

If I recall, there are three different ways to print your images, with
variations in each.

Chemical/silver based prints from digital images, using a number of
technologies.

Dye sublimation using ribbon, heat, and special paper media.

Inkjet technology using both spit release dyes.

Each of these will create some pretty good results, and you will be
hard put to see the differences.

The traditional way of creating the image was through the chemical
release of dye into the emulsion layers that when viewed would make up
a color, i.e. the silver washed away and replaced by the dye cloud. All
of this being quite small - microscopic.

Dye sublimation is very similar except that instead of chemicals being
used, digital technology and heat along with a ribbon and paper
prepared to accept the resulting dye clouds. The result is similar to
the chemical process. Since this process involves different technology,
a finish layer is added which protects the image from water, etc.

The last is the Inkjet process that lays down a spit pattern that is
incredibly small where the dots make up the image. When dry the quality
is right up there with the others. There is also an inkjet technology
where the ink is heated but I am vague on that one.

So, for me I find the chain as shown here. But, since I am a digital
person at present, dye sublimation is just about equal and it has the
advantage of being protected from moisture. It is however, more
expensive.

This is a very cursory review.

Talk to you soon,

Ron Baird
Eastman Kodak Company
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Arthur Small

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:47 pm
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I use a dye sub printer for my 4 X 6 and 8 X 10. For anything larger I sent
it to a lab.

www.alldigital.fotopic.net
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