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Since: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:10 pm
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Yoshi wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
> news:eugnqm08vr@news2.newsguy.com...
>> Yoshi wrote:
>>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:euggp311u42@news3.newsguy.com...
>>>> So what Olympus digital camera lets one use a 24mm Olympus OM lens
>>>> as a wide angle?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> --John
>>>
>>> Not the point. There are many photograhers that simply have no
>>> interest in the Canon fanboy ranting.
>>> If you enjoy your Canon, use it. Raving about Canon at every
>>> opportunity is simply annoying and serves no purpose.
>>
>> That _is_ the point. The guy has existing OM lenses including a 24mm
>> that he wants to continue to use. What Olympus camera should he get
>> that lets him continue to use them like he used them with his OM? If
>> there is one please identify it. If there isn't one then please
>> explain why suggesting an alternative that does allow this is
>> "fanboy ranting"?
>>
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>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
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> Exactly the point. You have 244 archived posts in this newsgroup
> mentioning the word "Canon". I'm really not interested in Canon
> evangelism. Go preach to the converts.
So you have no recommendation at all for him? You're saying what, that
he shouldn't get a digital camera at all? That he should toss his OM
lenses in the trash? What?
As for having 244 archived posts containing the word Canon, RichA
probably has vastly more than that containing the word "plastic". From
that are we to conclude that he is a "plastic fanboy"?
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Since: Aug 25, 2005 Posts: 1476
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:49 pm
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Yoshi wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>>
> Exactly the point. You have 244 archived posts in this newsgroup
> mentioning the word "Canon". I'm really not interested in Canon evangelism.
> Go preach to the converts.
That's because Mr. Clarke doesn't trim too often. I'd hardly classify
him as a zealot for any brand anywhere. Oh, I believe he's anti-Mac, but
not rabidly so.
And, so, Yoshi, who are you? Have you been posting here under a
different name, and might you tell us what?
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Since: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:03 pm
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On Mar 27, 11:06 pm, "Peter Stacey" <lps_so....TakeThisOut@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> I have a range of Olympus OM 1 &2 gear, including 24mm, 35-70mm 75-150mm
> lens bellows etc. Finally considering getting a DSLR, (E-1?) and am tempted
> to go on a path that will allow me to utilise the old equipment, rather than
> to scrap it or virtually give it away. Presuming that there is negligible
> need/value in the old film gear. An adapter is available to use the old lens
> with the 4/3 camera fitting.
>
> Being used to manual focus etc. I thought that I would not feel too
> disadvantaged by not having everything automated as is the case nowadays.
> However I did think that getting a good 'standard' lens with the new
> camera/body would be a good idea.
>
> Has anyone done this and how did it work out? I realise that one can become
> emotionally attached to our gear, when from a practical or financial view
> the decision is a no brainer.
>
> TIA
> Cheers Peter S.
To go back to the OP's question,
Here's a web site that includes discussion and reviews of OM lenses on
EVOLT bodies:
http://fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/
Good luck!
Dale B. Dalrymple
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:42 pm
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:10:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
<jclarke.usenet RemoveThis @cox.net> wrote:
>So you have no recommendation at all for him? You're saying what, that
>he shouldn't get a digital camera at all? That he should toss his OM
>lenses in the trash? What?
>
>As for having 244 archived posts containing the word Canon, RichA
>probably has vastly more than that containing the word "plastic". From
>that are we to conclude that he is a "plastic fanboy"?
As an owner of both Olympus and Canon digitals, I assure you that you
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Since: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:49 pm
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John McWilliams wrote:
> Yoshi wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>
>> Exactly the point. You have 244 archived posts in this newsgroup
>> mentioning the word "Canon". I'm really not interested in Canon
>> evangelism. Go preach to the converts.
>
> That's because Mr. Clarke doesn't trim too often. I'd hardly classify
> him as a zealot for any brand anywhere. Oh, I believe he's anti-Mac,
> but not rabidly so.
I don't have any problem with Macs per se. Its' the bunker mentality of
many of the users that gives me trouble. That and their stupid
advertisements.
> And, so, Yoshi, who are you? Have you been posting here under a
> different name, and might you tell us what?
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Since: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:39 am
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Centella Cajon wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:10:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
> <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> So you have no recommendation at all for him? You're saying what,
>> that he shouldn't get a digital camera at all? That he should toss
>> his OM lenses in the trash? What?
>>
>> As for having 244 archived posts containing the word Canon, RichA
>> probably has vastly more than that containing the word "plastic".
>> From that are we to conclude that he is a "plastic fanboy"?
>
> As an owner of both Olympus and Canon digitals, I assure you that you
> are, indeed, an annoying ass.
Was that directed at me or Yoshi?
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Since: Mar 28, 2007 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:55 am
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Thanks to all who responded to my question. It has given me lots to think
about.
Alfred Molon, I have taken your advice and looked/signed up at MyOlympus.
Cheers and thanks again. Peter Stacey.
******************************
"Peter Stacey" <lps_softw.RemoveThis@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:460a05a4$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>I have a range of Olympus OM 1 &2 gear,
<SNIP>
Finally considering getting a DSLR, (E-1?) and am tempted
> to go on a path that will allow me to utilise the old equipment, rather
> than
> to scrap it or virtually give it away.
<SNIP>
> Has anyone done this and how did it work out? I realise that one can
> become
> emotionally attached to our gear, when from a practical or financial view
> the decision is a no brainer.
>
> TIA
> Cheers Peter S. >> Stay informed about: Olympus OM lens with a Olympus DSLR |
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Since: Nov 25, 2006 Posts: 31
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:47 pm
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In article <460bdaf5$0$5264$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"Yoshi" <otakudude.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:euggp311u42@news3.newsguy.com...
> > So what Olympus digital camera lets one use a 24mm Olympus OM lens as a
> > wide angle?
>
> Not the point. There are many photograhers that simply have no interest in
> the Canon fanboy ranting.
> If you enjoy your Canon, use it. Raving about Canon at every opportunity is
> simply annoying and serves no purpose.
That is exactly the point.
I also have a nice collection of Olympus OM lenses and bodies, but have
a few other camera brands as well. Of all, my favorite would be the
Olympus. In spite of that, I'm aware of the improvement in quality when
less enlargement is required to produce a given image size. Therefore
my digital cameras have the largest sensors I can afford. The OM lenses
aren't all TWICE as sharp as other brands' better lenses.
The main reason I would not go the route of adapting the OM lenses, is
that it is difficult to manually focus a lens on an AF body. They just
weren't designed to do that. Unless you could find an AF body with a
split-image focusing aid, manual focus would be just an exercise in
proving you can use the old lenses in spite of the nuisance.
If you are die-hard Olympus, then by all means use an Olympus digital
body and an adapter for the OM lenses.
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:33 pm
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J. Clarke wrote:
> Alfred Molon wrote:
>> Ask here:
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
>>
>> We have over 12000 users of Olympus cameras, mostly DSLRs.
>>
>> (and forget the dumb advice given by the Canon users - I always wonder
>> why they need to jump into Olympus threads)
>
> Because Canon is the right answer to that particular question.
>
> Now why do you feel it necessary to slam anybody who recommends using
> Olympus lenses on Canon bodies?
>
Sorry, but no; Canon is not the right answer. The OP asked about
experience using OM lenses on new Olympus DSLRs not your advice on using
them on Canon bodies. You "answer" was irrelevant and self indulgent.
Enjoy your Canon gear quietly unless asked. And no, nobody asked me
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Since: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 115
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:09 pm
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Guy wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>>> Ask here:
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
>>>
>>> We have over 12000 users of Olympus cameras, mostly DSLRs.
>>>
>>> (and forget the dumb advice given by the Canon users - I always
>>> wonder why they need to jump into Olympus threads)
>>
>> Because Canon is the right answer to that particular question.
>>
>> Now why do you feel it necessary to slam anybody who recommends using
>> Olympus lenses on Canon bodies?
> Sorry, but no; Canon is not the right answer.
Then what is the right answer? What digital camera should someone with
existing OM lenses use to get the most benefit out of those lenses and
why?
I notice you Olympus zealots being real bit on insulting anyone who
actually tries to help somebody while not offering one single word of
actual useful information yourselves.
> The OP asked about
> experience using OM lenses on new Olympus DSLRs not your advice on
> using them on Canon bodies. You "answer" was irrelevant and self
> indulgent.
Actually it was quite civil compared to the post to which it was a
response.
> Enjoy your Canon gear quietly unless asked. And no, nobody asked me
> either. -Guy
Is it all right with you if I also enjoy my Nikon, Panasonic, Yashica,
Mamiya, and Leica gear?
And who appointed you moderator?
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Since: Oct 02, 2005 Posts: 466
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:03 pm
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:47:22 -0400, Fred McKenzie >The main
reason I would not go the route of adapting the OM lenses,
is
>that it is difficult to manually focus a lens on an AF body. They just
>weren't designed to do that. Unless you could find an AF body with a
>split-image focusing aid, manual focus would be just an exercise in
>proving you can use the old lenses in spite of the nuisance.
You can buy a split-image screen for any AF camera that has
replaceable screens: http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/
Personally I don't like them; when I had OM cameras I
usually changed the standard screen for a plain matte
version. I've never had any problems with MF on the fine
matte screens of my Pentax *istD or Olympus E-1 ether, but
the small dim screens of the other Olympus bodies may be
more of a challenge.
The Olympus E-330 has "live view", one mode of which
displays a magnified view of the focus screen you see
through the finder - a sort of built-in Zigview. I'm told by
users that it's excellent for MF.
There are lots of sensible ways to use old MF lenses on a
modern digital body - including Olympus bodies.
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:58 pm
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In article <fmmck-DAD16E.13470731032007 DeleteThis @nntp.aioe.org>, fmmck DeleteThis @aol.com
says...
> The main reason I would not go the route of adapting the OM lenses, is
> that it is difficult to manually focus a lens on an AF body. They just
> weren't designed to do that. Unless you could find an AF body with a
> split-image focusing aid, manual focus would be just an exercise in
> proving you can use the old lenses in spite of the nuisance.
It is possible to add a split focus screen to an Olympus DSLR. Here is a
long thread about that:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/message/72245
(you have to register to be able to view it - it's a very long thread
and I can't post it here).
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Olympus 50X0, 7070, 8080, E300, E330, E400 and E500 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:30 pm
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J. Clarke wrote:
> Guy wrote:
>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>> Ask here:
>>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
>>>>
>>>> We have over 12000 users of Olympus cameras, mostly DSLRs.
>>>>
>>>> (and forget the dumb advice given by the Canon users - I always
>>>> wonder why they need to jump into Olympus threads)
>>> Because Canon is the right answer to that particular question.
>>>
>>> Now why do you feel it necessary to slam anybody who recommends using
>>> Olympus lenses on Canon bodies?
>
>> Sorry, but no; Canon is not the right answer.
>
> Then what is the right answer? What digital camera should someone with
> existing OM lenses use to get the most benefit out of those lenses and
> why?
The "right answer" would at least address the question or issue
directly. By leaping to a tangential argument you dismiss the OPs
question/concern as irrelevant. If you addressed the question directly
then segue to your preferred solution with logical arguments connecting
the two you will respect your reader. I doubt there is one "right"
answer anyway.
>
> I notice you Olympus zealots being real bit on insulting anyone who
> actually tries to help somebody while not offering one single word of
> actual useful information yourselves.
>
I wouldn't call myself an Olympus zealot, I don't own one but I do own 2
Canons.
>> The OP asked about
>> experience using OM lenses on new Olympus DSLRs not your advice on
>> using them on Canon bodies. You "answer" was irrelevant and self
>> indulgent.
>
> Actually it was quite civil compared to the post to which it was a
> response.
I didn't say you were un-civil... just irrelevant and self indulgent. If
you want to grind your own ax, don't be surprised when people notice.
>
>> Enjoy your Canon gear quietly unless asked. And no, nobody asked me
>> either. -Guy
>
> Is it all right with you if I also enjoy my Nikon, Panasonic, Yashica,
> Mamiya, and Leica gear?
>
Sure, why not and thanks for asking permission. Just keep quiet about
them too.
> And who appointed you moderator?
>
Me. You post publicly, I responded publicly. The Internet is amazing,
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:32 pm
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Guy wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Guy wrote:
>>> J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> Alfred Molon wrote:
>>>>> Ask here:
>>>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
>>>>>
>>>>> We have over 12000 users of Olympus cameras, mostly DSLRs.
>>>>>
>>>>> (and forget the dumb advice given by the Canon users - I always
>>>>> wonder why they need to jump into Olympus threads)
>>>> Because Canon is the right answer to that particular question.
>>>>
>>>> Now why do you feel it necessary to slam anybody who recommends
>>>> using Olympus lenses on Canon bodies?
>>
>>> Sorry, but no; Canon is not the right answer.
>>
>> Then what is the right answer? What digital camera should someone
>> with existing OM lenses use to get the most benefit out of those
>> lenses and why?
>
> The "right answer" would at least address the question or issue
> directly. By leaping to a tangential argument you dismiss the OPs
> question/concern as irrelevant. If you addressed the question
> directly then segue to your preferred solution with logical arguments
> connecting the two you will respect your reader. I doubt there is one
> "right" answer anyway.
So you missed
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/tree/browse_frm/threa...ce3b623
>> I notice you Olympus zealots being real bit on insulting anyone who
>> actually tries to help somebody while not offering one single word of
>> actual useful information yourselves.
>>
> I wouldn't call myself an Olympus zealot, I don't own one but I do
> own 2 Canons.
Then what exactly are you on about? Are you just bitching to be
bitching?
>>> The OP asked about
>>> experience using OM lenses on new Olympus DSLRs not your advice on
>>> using them on Canon bodies. You "answer" was irrelevant and self
>>> indulgent.
>>
>> Actually it was quite civil compared to the post to which it was a
>> response.
>
> I didn't say you were un-civil... just irrelevant and self indulgent.
> If you want to grind your own ax, don't be surprised when people
> notice.
What axe is that?
>>> Enjoy your Canon gear quietly unless asked. And no, nobody asked me
>>> either. -Guy
>>
>> Is it all right with you if I also enjoy my Nikon, Panasonic,
>> Yashica, Mamiya, and Leica gear?
>>
> Sure, why not and thanks for asking permission. Just keep quiet about
> them too.
>> And who appointed you moderator?
>>
> Me. You post publicly, I responded publicly. The Internet is amazing,
> just ask Al Gore. -Guy
I see. So you think you're the moderator on an unmoderated newsgroup.
<plonk>
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:15 am
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> In article <eumqum0flu.TakeThisOut@news2.newsguy.com>, jclarke.usenet.TakeThisOut@cox.net
> says...
>
>> I notice you Olympus zealots being real bit on insulting anyone who
>
> "zealots" - now who is insulting who?
>
> For your information the OP joined the myolympus forum, posted the
> question there and got five useful and detailed replies. Instead here,
> this thread became a pissing contest as soon as Canon users jumped in.
And who did all the pissing?
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