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Ockham's Razor

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:38 pm
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Does anyone have info on the relative efficacy of the noise reduction
software products such as Noise Ninja and NOISEware? I am interested
particularly in those that can be used as an Elements plug-in.

TIA

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Little Juice Coupe

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:11 pm
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They work well. I like Noise Ninja. But Neat Image is also good.

LJC


"Ockham's Razor" <Mencken RemoveThis @pdx.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone have info on the relative efficacy of the noise reduction
> software products such as Noise Ninja and NOISEware? I am interested
> particularly in those that can be used as an Elements plug-in.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> There are two ways to spell Ockham/Occam. Britannica prefers the former.

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embee

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:55 am
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"Little Juice Coupe" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> They work well. I like Noise Ninja. But Neat Image is also good.
>
> LJC
>
I agree - I have tried most products on the market and they all seem to do a
similar quality job. The main difference, in my opinion, is the interface. I
suggest trying out demo versions of each product and finding out which works
best for you. Personally, I now use Noise Ninja because I found Neat Image's
interface a bit unfriendly - but it's a personal choice. The results are
similar from both products, if used properly. I should also say that I do
not get too hung up about noise - I'd rather keep essential detail than have
a perfectly smooth, noise free image at the expense of sharpness. I use any
noise reduction technique sparingly - and always on a seperate layer.
Good Luck.
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Ken Lucke

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:48 am
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In article <em2p07$c8k$1@nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk>, embee
<alad67.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> "Little Juice Coupe" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:4584c350$0$80101$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> > They work well. I like Noise Ninja. But Neat Image is also good.
> >
> > LJC
> >
> I agree - I have tried most products on the market and they all seem to do a
> similar quality job. The main difference, in my opinion, is the interface. I
> suggest trying out demo versions of each product and finding out which works
> best for you. Personally, I now use Noise Ninja because I found Neat Image's
> interface a bit unfriendly - but it's a personal choice. The results are
> similar from both products, if used properly. I should also say that I do
> not get too hung up about noise - I'd rather keep essential detail than have
> a perfectly smooth, noise free image at the expense of sharpness. I use any
> noise reduction technique sparingly - and always on a seperate layer.
> Good Luck.
>
>

Have you tried Noiseware Professional from Imagenomic.com? It comes in
a PS pluging (Mac & Win) or a standalone (Win only). I like it very
much.

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the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
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Little Juice Coupe

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:33 am
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So does Noise Ninja and NeatImage. Plug-ins and standalone. As one responder
put it it comes down to interface. I don't think beyond that that any one of
them is better or worse than they other for the final result.

LJC


"Ken Lucke" <ken.DeleteThis@glass-stones.com> wrote in message
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> In article <em2p07$c8k$1@nntp0.reith.bbc.co.uk>, embee
> <alad67.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Little Juice Coupe" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:4584c350$0$80101$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> > They work well. I like Noise Ninja. But Neat Image is also good.
>> >
>> > LJC
>> >
>> I agree - I have tried most products on the market and they all seem to
>> do a
>> similar quality job. The main difference, in my opinion, is the
>> interface. I
>> suggest trying out demo versions of each product and finding out which
>> works
>> best for you. Personally, I now use Noise Ninja because I found Neat
>> Image's
>> interface a bit unfriendly - but it's a personal choice. The results are
>> similar from both products, if used properly. I should also say that I do
>> not get too hung up about noise - I'd rather keep essential detail than
>> have
>> a perfectly smooth, noise free image at the expense of sharpness. I use
>> any
>> noise reduction technique sparingly - and always on a seperate layer.
>> Good Luck.
>>
>>
>
> Have you tried Noiseware Professional from Imagenomic.com? It comes in
> a PS pluging (Mac & Win) or a standalone (Win only). I like it very
> much.
>
> --
> You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
> reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
> the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
> independence.
> -- Charles A. Beard
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:54 pm
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I took a pass on plugins and went with STOIK noise reduction. Did just
what I needed on my Panasonic FZ-20 at ISO400 to give usable images.

Joe
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Jim Blue

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:17 am
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How do all these programs compare with the Digital Camera Noise
Reduction in Paint Shop Pro 9 (and presumably also in PSP X and
PSP XI)?
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John McWilliams

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:21 am
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Aaron wrote:
> And lo, joefoto <joefoto.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> emerged from the ether
> and spake thus:
>> I took a pass on plugins and went with STOIK noise reduction. Did just
>> what I needed on my Panasonic FZ-20 at ISO400 to give usable images.
>>
>> Joe
>
> Why would you want to use software that is completely automatic and
> gives you no control over how much noise reduction/sharpening is being
> applied?
>
> Personally, I would think you'd like to adjust the sharpening level
> based on the intent; either print or web.

Well, you (Aaron), and I would. Also based on image type, size (as in
number of pixels), and sometimes, selectively as in masks or smart objects.

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Aaron

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:37 am
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And lo, joefoto <joefoto.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> emerged from the ether
and spake thus:
>
> I took a pass on plugins and went with STOIK noise reduction. Did just
> what I needed on my Panasonic FZ-20 at ISO400 to give usable images.
>
> Joe

Why would you want to use software that is completely automatic and
gives you no control over how much noise reduction/sharpening is being
applied?

Personally, I would think you'd like to adjust the sharpening level
based on the intent; either print or web.

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Christopher Campbell

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:37 pm
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:38:54 -0800, Ockham's Razor wrote
(in article <Mencken-F2D459.16385416122006.RemoveThis@nntp0.pdx.net>):

> Does anyone have info on the relative efficacy of the noise reduction
> software products such as Noise Ninja and NOISEware? I am interested
> particularly in those that can be used as an Elements plug-in.
>
> TIA
>
>

I use both Noise Ninja and Neat Image about equally. There is a qualitative
difference between the two that I really can't put finger on, except that
Noise Ninja works better at getting rid of noise in large dark areas and Neat
Image seems to do better at retaining texture and fine details. The
sharpening routines on both work well, but I like the way Noise Ninja
sharpens better.
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David J Taylor

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:57 pm
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Jim Blue wrote:
> How do all these programs compare with the Digital Camera Noise
> Reduction in Paint Shop Pro 9 (and presumably also in PSP X and
> PSP XI)?

I've found that PSP-10 is about as good as the other software, and
certainly adequate for my purposes.

David
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:21 pm
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