Nikon questions

"MaryL" <stancole1.TakeThisOut@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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> Is anyone familiar with the Nikon D80 (for myself) and/or the Nikon S10
> (for my friend). I have had several Nikon cameras and liked them all.
> Right now, I am using the Nikon 8880 and would probably continue to use
> it, in combination with a new camera. I really like the 8880 but miss
> some things from my old film SLRs, especially the shutter lag problem. Is
> the D80 a reasonable alternative to the D100?
Certainly. Besides the D100 was discontinued some time ago.
Jim
>
> My friend's mother has offered to buy her a new camera for Christmas, but
> she therefore needs to be price-conscious and yet wants some "features."
> I know she will want to take lots of pics of her cats. Is there something
> else in that price range that she should consider? I have already sent
> her the URLs for a couple of review sites, including dpreview.com.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> MaryL
>
>
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bmoag wrote:
> My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
> photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing and
> printing.

Oh, I don't know about that. You don't have to do tons of processing to
take advantage of shallow DOF and good low light performance of DSLRs.
And of course interchangeable lenses.

Digital image processing is for people who can't get the shot right to
start with!


-Gniewko
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I have a D80. It is significantly better than the D70/100 both in the
viewfinder and image sensor. That is not the issue you should consider.
You are correct in assuming that the picture taking experience with a dSLR
is more like a film SLR than the 8800.
The level of complexity in a dSLR is significantly greater than with an
8800.
You can use a dSLR like an 8800 in point and shoot mode recording images in
jpeg or with limited manipulation of shutter speeds and f-stops. However you
will have a heavier camera than the 8800 to lug around and will not see an
improvement in image quality for snapshot use.
My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing and
printing.
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In article <j0bXg.9446$TV3.7412@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
"bmoag" <aetoo DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a D80. It is significantly better than the D70/100 both in the
> viewfinder and image sensor. That is not the issue you should consider.
> You are correct in assuming that the picture taking experience with a dSLR
> is more like a film SLR than the 8800.
> The level of complexity in a dSLR is significantly greater than with an
> 8800.
> You can use a dSLR like an 8800 in point and shoot mode recording images in
> jpeg or with limited manipulation of shutter speeds and f-stops. However you
> will have a heavier camera than the 8800 to lug around and will not see an
> improvement in image quality for snapshot use.
> My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
> photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing and
> printing.

Most people who go to DSLR already have a P&S. I was perfectly satisfied
with my Canon S-60 but went to SLR because of the short shutter lag and
lens choices.

--
There are two ways to spell Ockham/Occam. Britannica prefers the former.
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"bmoag" <aetoo DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a D80. It is significantly better than the D70/100 both in the
>viewfinder and image sensor. That is not the issue you should consider.
> You are correct in assuming that the picture taking experience with a dSLR
> is more like a film SLR than the 8800.
> The level of complexity in a dSLR is significantly greater than with an
> 8800.
> You can use a dSLR like an 8800 in point and shoot mode recording images
> in jpeg or with limited manipulation of shutter speeds and f-stops.
> However you will have a heavier camera than the 8800 to lug around and
> will not see an improvement in image quality for snapshot use.
> My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
> photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing
> and printing.
>
>
>

Thanks! I plan to retire in a year, and at that time I do want to get into
digital image processing. Up to now, I have not gone beyond cropping, basic
enhancement such as contrast manipulation, and printing using an HP
Photosmart 2710. That may mean that I would be better off waiting for a
year. Incidentally, I did considerably more years ago with my film 35mm
cameras (starting with a Kodak Retina Reflex that my father gave me many
years ago), but I have found that I have forgotten much of what I knew then.

MaryL
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MaryL wrote:
> Is anyone familiar with the Nikon D80 (for myself) and/or the Nikon S10 (for
> my friend). I have had several Nikon cameras and liked them all. Right
> now, I am using the Nikon 8880 and would probably continue to use it, in
> combination with a new camera. I really like the 8880 but miss some things
> from my old film SLRs, especially the shutter lag problem. Is the D80 a
> reasonable alternative to the D100?
>

The D80 is a far better camera than the D100, and it is a reasonable
alternative to the D200. It lacks some of the features and speed of
the D200, but it the responsiveness is way beyond the 8880. Heck, even
the D50 and the D70 are better cameras than the D100.

> My friend's mother has offered to buy her a new camera for Christmas, but
> she therefore needs to be price-conscious and yet wants some "features." I
> know she will want to take lots of pics of her cats. Is there something
> else in that price range that she should consider? I have already sent her
> the URLs for a couple of review sites, including dpreview.com.

Cats, eh? Well, an SLR is probably the best tool, since cats are prone
to fleeting expressions that are hard to capture. Have you considered
looking for a used D70 on eBay?
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"Ockham's Razor" <Mencken RemoveThis @pdx.net> wrote in message
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> In article <j0bXg.9446$TV3.7412@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
> "bmoag" <aetoo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a D80. It is significantly better than the D70/100 both in the
>> viewfinder and image sensor. That is not the issue you should consider.
>> You are correct in assuming that the picture taking experience with a
>> dSLR
>> is more like a film SLR than the 8800.
>> The level of complexity in a dSLR is significantly greater than with an
>> 8800.
>> You can use a dSLR like an 8800 in point and shoot mode recording images
>> in
>> jpeg or with limited manipulation of shutter speeds and f-stops. However
>> you
>> will have a heavier camera than the 8800 to lug around and will not see
>> an
>> improvement in image quality for snapshot use.
>> My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
>> photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing
>> and
>> printing.
>
> Most people who go to DSLR already have a P&S. I was perfectly satisfied
> with my Canon S-60 but went to SLR because of the short shutter lag and
> lens choices.
>
> --
> There are two ways to spell Ockham/Occam. Britannica prefers the former.

Those are the two things that interest me the most.

MaryL
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"cjcampbell" <christophercampbell.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> MaryL wrote:
>> Is anyone familiar with the Nikon D80 (for myself) and/or the Nikon S10
>> (for
>> my friend). I have had several Nikon cameras and liked them all. Right
>> now, I am using the Nikon 8880 and would probably continue to use it, in
>> combination with a new camera. I really like the 8880 but miss some
>> things
>> from my old film SLRs, especially the shutter lag problem. Is the D80 a
>> reasonable alternative to the D100?
>>
>
> The D80 is a far better camera than the D100, and it is a reasonable
> alternative to the D200. It lacks some of the features and speed of
> the D200, but it the responsiveness is way beyond the 8880. Heck, even
> the D50 and the D70 are better cameras than the D100.
>
>> My friend's mother has offered to buy her a new camera for Christmas, but
>> she therefore needs to be price-conscious and yet wants some "features."
>> I
>> know she will want to take lots of pics of her cats. Is there something
>> else in that price range that she should consider? I have already sent
>> her
>> the URLs for a couple of review sites, including dpreview.com.
>
> Cats, eh? Well, an SLR is probably the best tool, since cats are prone
> to fleeting expressions that are hard to capture. Have you considered
> looking for a used D70 on eBay?
>

Thanks. I'll suggest that she look on eBay. I hadn't thought of that.

MaryL
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"MaryL" <stancole1 RemoveThis @yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> writes:
> > Cats, eh? Well, an SLR is probably the best tool, since cats are prone
> > to fleeting expressions that are hard to capture. Have you considered
> > looking for a used D70 on eBay?
>
> Thanks. I'll suggest that she look on eBay. I hadn't thought of that.

Try a video camera.
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lubecki.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:

> bmoag wrote:
> > My personal bias is that dSLRs are the wrong camera for most casual
> > photographers who have no interest in learning digital image processing and
> > printing.
>

You must mean SLRs (digital or film) are the wrong set of cameras for
people who do not want to go beyond auto-focus.Some SLRs (including the
D80) have vari-mode programming likw
landscape/portrait/night/action/<forgot 1 more> which takes care of
aperture etc.. and lets you deal with it in a point and shoot way but I
didn't find the performance to be satisfactory esp in low light.

> Oh, I don't know about that. You don't have to do tons of processing to
> take advantage of shallow DOF and good low light performance of DSLRs.
> And of course interchangeable lenses.
>

Yep -the only reason why I started using an SLR (N 75) camera is
becausea P&S won't be able to deal with challenging situations. Its
another story that I felt challenged by the cost of lenses and the amt
of tweaking reqd to get a shot right.

> Digital image processing is for people who can't get the shot right to
> start with!
>

yep -digital is for that and instant gratification. The onyl problem is
that perfection is miles away and technological development makes your
purchase look like wasted money -within a few yrs time.

regards
-kamal
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"Paul Rubin" <http://phr.cx@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in message
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> "MaryL" <stancole1.TakeThisOut@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> writes:
>> > Cats, eh? Well, an SLR is probably the best tool, since cats are prone
>> > to fleeting expressions that are hard to capture. Have you considered
>> > looking for a used D70 on eBay?
>>
>> Thanks. I'll suggest that she look on eBay. I hadn't thought of that.
>
> Try a video camera.

I was asking about this for a friend, and I think she already has a video
camera. I know I have both, and each has capabilities the other can't
replace. I'll ask, though.

MaryL
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> > Cats, eh? Well, an SLR is probably the best tool, since cats are prone
> > to fleeting expressions that are hard to capture. Have you considered
> > looking for a used D70 on eBay?
> >
>
> Thanks. I'll suggest that she look on eBay. I hadn't thought of that.

Personally I wouldn't bid on eBay for a 2nd hand camera that I haven't
been able to check myself. Well it's not my business.

Anyway do consider the excellent quality/price D50 as well : cheap,
well made, largely enough power, speed and image quality for most
users. This saves you some money to buy a lens that gives the
flexibility that you're used to with the 8800. I mean the rather
expensive but universal Nikon 18-200 VR with image stabiliser. I saw
surprisingly good prints made with it. Less expensive, the 18-135 is
interesting as well. There are some limitations with this kind of wide
zooms but in general I think that you'd be quite happy with it on a
D50, probably moreso than with a D80 and a short zoom for roughly the
same budget
Also reserve money for 1 or 2 2Gb card(s) and an extra battery

Tom (I have a D200 myself)
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What is a Nikon 8880? I've heard of the 8008 and the 8800, but never the
8880.

Doug


"MaryL" <stancole1.DeleteThis@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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> Is anyone familiar with the Nikon D80 (for myself) and/or the Nikon S10
> (for my friend). I have had several Nikon cameras and liked them all.
> Right now, I am using the Nikon 8880 and would probably continue to use
> it, in combination with a new camera. I really like the 8880 but miss
> some things from my old film SLRs, especially the shutter lag problem. Is
> the D80 a reasonable alternative to the D100?
>
> My friend's mother has offered to buy her a new camera for Christmas, but
> she therefore needs to be price-conscious and yet wants some "features."
> I know she will want to take lots of pics of her cats. Is there something
> else in that price range that she should consider? I have already sent
> her the URLs for a couple of review sites, including dpreview.com.
>
> Thanks for your help,
> MaryL
>
>
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