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tony cooper

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:00 pm
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Trying for the first time with my new D40 to pre-set the White
Balance, sumpin's goin' wrong.

Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't. With the camera set to "A" or
"M", filling the whole screen with either a gray card or white card,
it sometimes works and sometimes say "Unable...please try again".

I'm shooting close-ups, but not macros, on a cloth-draped table. I'm
outdoors out of direct sunlight to avoid shadows and moving the table
to different spots as the sunlight changes. The sun today is going in
and out of clouds and the shadows change so I move the object.

I captured one series just fine. Then moved the table and got the
"Unable" message.

The pix aren't bad, but I want to know what I'm doing wrong.


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:00 pm
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In article <mk7fo3ta0mr2hnieop5mgp5jni6bfeija4 RemoveThis @4ax.com>, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:

> The pix aren't bad, but I want to know what I'm doing wrong.

Shoot RAW!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:24 pm
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"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Trying for the first time with my new D40 to pre-set the White
> Balance, sumpin's goin' wrong.
>
> Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't. With the camera set to "A" or
> "M", filling the whole screen with either a gray card or white card,
> it sometimes works and sometimes say "Unable...please try again".
>

I can't think of a reason why moving a table to avoid a shadow would have
any effect on your ability to pre-set your white balance.

You mentioned this problem sometime happens with the camera set to "A" or
"M". I've never used a D40, but if I had to take a wild guess I'd say when
you are in "A" (presumed to be Automatic) you are automatic (point & shoot)
all the way and therefore limited to auto white balance. But in "M"
(presumed to be Manual) you are able to manually pre-set a custom white
balance.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:37 pm
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"skip" <skip RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:mk7fo3ta0mr2hnieop5mgp5jni6bfeija4@4ax.com...
>> Trying for the first time with my new D40 to pre-set the White
>> Balance, sumpin's goin' wrong.
>>
>> Sometimes I can, and sometimes I can't. With the camera set to "A" or
>> "M", filling the whole screen with either a gray card or white card,
>> it sometimes works and sometimes say "Unable...please try again".
>>
>
> I can't think of a reason why moving a table to avoid a shadow would have
> any effect on your ability to pre-set your white balance.
>
> You mentioned this problem sometime happens with the camera set to "A" or
> "M". I've never used a D40, but if I had to take a wild guess I'd say
> when you are in "A" (presumed to be Automatic) you are automatic (point &
> shoot) all the way and therefore limited to auto white balance. But in
> "M" (presumed to be Manual) you are able to manually pre-set a custom
> white balance.
>
>
>
>

With Nikons "A" means aperture priority. If you want to use program mode
put the camera into "P" mode. However, neither mode should affect the white
balance adjustment.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:49 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:34 pm
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:49:43 -0500, "Rita Berkowitz"
<ritaberk2008.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>skip wrote:
>
>> I can't think of a reason why moving a table to avoid a shadow would
>> have any effect on your ability to pre-set your white balance.
>
>I can. He's overexposing and overloading the sensor. He'll need to stop
>the lens down or move out of the direct sunlight. A simple solution for him
>is to put the lens in "M" and hold the card about a 12" from the lens front.
>There's no need to focus for setting WB. Works every time.
>

You know, Rita, you take a lot of flack here and in the other groups
where I see your posts. Undeserved, I think. I can't see why other
people don't understand you're just having fun. We're all in
newsgroups to suit our own needs, and your need is have a few laughs,
posts a few pictures (good ones, I think), and to tweak the noses of
those who need a pokerectomy. Or is it "pokerotomy" when the poker
needs to be removed? (Checked: it's -ectomy.)

Yeah, you're right. I had the f-stop too open for the light. For the
other posters..."M" is manual aperture and shutter on the D40, "A" is
aperture priority, and I'll shoot RAW when I'm damned good and ready.

On the D40, you put down the card so the card fills the view and push
the shutter release. No focus is necessary and no image is taken.

I do wish you'd stop writing "LOL", though. Anyone you have to tell
that you're laughing isn't going to understand anyway.


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:13 pm
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tony cooper wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:49:43 -0500, "Rita Berkowitz"
> <ritaberk2008 DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>> skip wrote:
>>
>>> I can't think of a reason why moving a table to avoid a shadow would
>>> have any effect on your ability to pre-set your white balance.
>> I can. He's overexposing and overloading the sensor. He'll need to stop
>> the lens down or move out of the direct sunlight. A simple solution for him
>> is to put the lens in "M" and hold the card about a 12" from the lens front.
>> There's no need to focus for setting WB. Works every time.
>>
>
> You know, Rita, you take a lot of flack here and in the other groups
> where I see your posts. Undeserved, I think. I can't see why other
> people don't understand you're just having fun. We're all in
> newsgroups to suit our own needs, and your need is have a few laughs,
> posts a few pictures (good ones, I think), and to tweak the noses of
> those who need a pokerectomy. Or is it "pokerotomy" when the poker
> needs to be removed? (Checked: it's -ectomy.)
>
> Yeah, you're right. I had the f-stop too open for the light. For the
> other posters..."M" is manual aperture and shutter on the D40, "A" is
> aperture priority, and I'll shoot RAW when I'm damned good and ready.
>
> On the D40, you put down the card so the card fills the view and push
> the shutter release. No focus is necessary and no image is taken.
>
> I do wish you'd stop writing "LOL", though. Anyone you have to tell
> that you're laughing isn't going to understand anyway.
>
>
> --
>
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Although article is dated the topic isn't

http://www.bythom.com/graycards.htm

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:15 pm
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"">G< ©"" <jimmygator.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> tony cooper wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:49:43 -0500, "Rita Berkowitz"
>> <ritaberk2008.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> skip wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't think of a reason why moving a table to avoid a shadow would
>>>> have any effect on your ability to pre-set your white balance.
>>> I can. He's overexposing and overloading the sensor. He'll need to
>>> stop
>>> the lens down or move out of the direct sunlight. A simple solution for
>>> him
>>> is to put the lens in "M" and hold the card about a 12" from the lens
>>> front.
>>> There's no need to focus for setting WB. Works every time.
>>>
>>
>> You know, Rita, you take a lot of flack here and in the other groups
>> where I see your posts. Undeserved, I think. I can't see why other
>> people don't understand you're just having fun. We're all in
>> newsgroups to suit our own needs, and your need is have a few laughs,
>> posts a few pictures (good ones, I think), and to tweak the noses of
>> those who need a pokerectomy. Or is it "pokerotomy" when the poker
>> needs to be removed? (Checked: it's -ectomy.)
>>
>> Yeah, you're right. I had the f-stop too open for the light. For the
>> other posters..."M" is manual aperture and shutter on the D40, "A" is
>> aperture priority, and I'll shoot RAW when I'm damned good and ready.
>>
>> On the D40, you put down the card so the card fills the view and push
>> the shutter release. No focus is necessary and no image is taken. I do
>> wish you'd stop writing "LOL", though. Anyone you have to tell
>> that you're laughing isn't going to understand anyway. --
>>
>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
>
> Although article is dated the topic isn't
>
> http://www.bythom.com/graycards.htm


IRC 18% grey was used to calibrate and check meters, not color. Those of us
who couldn't afford a grey card used grass or the back of one's hand.

A Shirley card was used to make color adjustments in the darkroom.

http://tinyurl.com/3dmt3t

However, in the digital age we started to use lenna as the standard. (Kodak
was too stodgy)

the story of lenna. For those with real curiosity, lenna was a Playboy
centerfold model, circa 1978.
the full story is at:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~chuck/lennapg/lenna.shtml

I apologize to anyone offended by this minor, but on point, diversion.

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