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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:22 am
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Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
> On Feb 4, 4:09 am, Paul Furman <pa....RemoveThis@-edgehill.net> wrote:
>> David J Taylor wrote:
>>> Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
>>>> I am thinking about buying a small dSLR such as Nikon D40 or D40x. My
>>>> main interest is to take pictures of landscapes at low light. Thus, I
>>>> am looking for a rather short focal length lens. I want to have a
>>>> fixed focal length. The aperture should be 1/1.4 or 1/1.8. I want the
>>>> lens to be cheap (a few hundred dollars). Obviously, it should have a
>>>> built-in motor. Someone mentioned such a lens around here, but I did a
>>>> search and could not find. Can you advise me ? Thanks.
>>> Doesn't Sigma do a 30mm f/1.4 or something like that? Not sure if it's
>>> AF-S, though.
>> Yes Sigma HSM lenses will AF on a D40, that one is $640.
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> Yes, I did a search, and that's what I found (Sigma lens, that is,
> which has autofocussing motor). But it is more expensive than Nikkor
> 50mm f/1.8 which is $130. Actually, here the notorious guy named Ken
> Rockwell makes a comparison of Sigma 30mm f/1.4 with the Canon 28mm f/
> 1.8 lens,
Yes, both are soft in the corners unless stopped way down. Did he
compare the discontinued Nikon 28/1.4? The one that sells for $3,000.00 
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/28mm-f18.htm
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> To me, the quality of image is the same (Sigma vs. Canon lens). I
> might well get Canon Digital Rebel 400D (XTi), which is of the same
> size as Nikon D40. And the price of the Canon lens is slightly less. |
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:27 am
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Dominic Richens wrote:
> Rudy Benner wrote
>> Beladi Nasrallah wrote
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>> When I said "landscape", I actually meant "city landscape" and
>> architecture. Focussing is still important.
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> Do these buildings move so quickly that you need autofocus? Even with an
> old 50mm f/1.8 MF lens my D40 gives me focus-confirmation - even then for
> night photography I tend to braket-focus because I don't trust it or my
> eyesight.
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>> You might want to look at the tilt/shift lens.
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> why, what can you do with a PC lens that can't be done in photoShop?
Empty your wallet
You can see the actual composition as you shoot, it does 2-frame
stitched shots without interpolation and the tilt allows controlling DOF
but that's only really useful for closeups. |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:59 pm
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Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
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> Yes, I did a search, and that's what I found (Sigma lens, that is,
> which has autofocussing motor). But it is more expensive than Nikkor
> 50mm f/1.8 which is $130. Actually, here the notorious guy named Ken
> Rockwell makes a comparison of Sigma 30mm f/1.4 with the Canon 28mm f/
> 1.8 lens,
> http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/28mm-f18.htm
Well, they are lenses with a different application. For architecture,
particularly on a DSLR, 30mm may be much more useful. Take a look through
the viewfinder.
> To me, the quality of image is the same (Sigma vs. Canon lens). I
> might well get Canon Digital Rebel 400D (XTi), which is of the same
> size as Nikon D40. And the price of the Canon lens is slightly less.
When deciding between Canon and Nikon, be sure to hold the cameras in the
shop.
There's two reasons to visit your local store, and buy there once you've
used their facilities.
Cheers,
David >> Stay informed about: Nikon D40/D40x + night lens ? |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:26 pm
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Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
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> I have already held those Canon and Nikon cameras in my hands, and
> took a few snapshots with them. I borrowed them from my colleagues who
> had them for work reasons. What stroke me was that both cameras were
> compact, and I liked that. I did not find much difference between them
> in the compactness factor.
I found one was much better than the other - but that's subjective, of
course. I ended up with the Nikon D40.
> Both cameras had kit lenses on them (18-55 mm ?). The quality of the
> pictures was good, but unremarkable. I subscribed it to the quality of
> the kit lens.
Yes, although the Canon kit lens is generally held in lower regard than
the Nikon. Both now offer 18 - 55mm image-stabilised kit lenses, and the
IS/VR does make hand-holding at longer exposures so much easier. Be aware
that 18-55mm on a DSLR in similar in feild of view to 27-82mm on a 35mm
film camera.
Cheers,
David >> Stay informed about: Nikon D40/D40x + night lens ? |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:54 pm
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:26:07 -0800 (PST), Beladi Nasrallah
<nasralla.DeleteThis@inbox.com> wrote in
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>On Feb 4, 11:59 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay....DeleteThis@blueyonder.neither-
>this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
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>> When deciding between Canon and Nikon, be sure to hold the cameras in the
>> shop.
>
>I have already held those Canon and Nikon cameras in my hands, and
>took a few snapshots with them. I borrowed them from my colleagues who
>had them for work reasons. What stroke me was that both cameras were
>compact, and I liked that. I did not find much difference between them
>in the compactness factor.
>
>Both cameras had kit lenses on them (18-55 mm ?). The quality of the
>pictures was good, but unremarkable. I subscribed it to the quality of
>the kit lens.
My own take is that the Nikon kit lens is pretty good, better than the
Canon kit lens, so I'm surprised you didn't see much difference.
--
Best regards,
John Navas
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:40 am
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On Feb 5, 1:54 am, John Navas <spamfilt... RemoveThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 06:26:07 -0800 (PST), Beladi Nasrallah
> <nasra... RemoveThis @inbox.com> wrote in
> <e5faafeb-504c-4ea3-8c95-0fe5dddf5... RemoveThis @i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com>:
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> >On Feb 4, 11:59 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay... RemoveThis @blueyonder.neither-
> >this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
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> >> When deciding between Canon and Nikon, be sure to hold the cameras in the
> >> shop.
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> >I have already held those Canon and Nikon cameras in my hands, and
> >took a few snapshots with them. I borrowed them from my colleagues who
> >had them for work reasons. What stroke me was that both cameras were
> >compact, and I liked that. I did not find much difference between them
> >in the compactness factor.
>
> >Both cameras had kit lenses on them (18-55 mm ?). The quality of the
> >pictures was good, but unremarkable. I subscribed it to the quality of
> >the kit lens.
>
> My own take is that the Nikon kit lens is pretty good, better than the
> Canon kit lens, so I'm surprised you didn't see much difference.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:49 pm
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Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
> On Feb 5, 1:54 am, John Navas <spamfilt... DeleteThis @navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>> My own take is that the Nikon kit lens is pretty good, better than
>> the Canon kit lens, so I'm surprised you didn't see much difference.
>
> I would say they both were unexciting.
Which is probably just what you want in a working camera - no expected
surprises, they just sit there and work, are intuitive rather than
"exciting" to operate, and don't "excite" you by tiring your hands or
rubbing the hands during a day's use.
If you want "exciting", try a Sigma?
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:57 pm
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On Feb 6, 1:49 am, "David J Taylor" <david-tay....DeleteThis@blueyonder.neither-
this-bit.nor-this-bit.co.uk> wrote:
> Beladi Nasrallah wrote:
> > On Feb 5, 1:54 am, John Navas <spamfilt....DeleteThis@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> []
> >> My own take is that the Nikon kit lens is pretty good, better than
> >> the Canon kit lens, so I'm surprised you didn't see much difference.
>
> > I would say they both were unexciting.
>
> Which is probably just what you want in a working camera - no expected
> surprises, they just sit there and work, are intuitive rather than
> "exciting" to operate, and don't "excite" you by tiring your hands or
> rubbing the hands during a day's use.
>
> If you want "exciting", try a Sigma?
I already have Sigma SD14. I bought it because I wanted the "exciting"
quality pictures, that is pictures with vivid and deep natural colors.
But, in reality, it turned out it was nothing to write home about. (I
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:21 am
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David J Taylor wrote:
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> Be aware that 18-55mm on a DSLR in similar in feild of view
> to 27-82mm on a 35mm film camera.
>
> Cheers,
> David
Hello, David:
Minor correction: That's not true of a full-frame DSLR.
Cordially,
John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net> >> Stay informed about: Nikon D40/D40x + night lens ? |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:19 am
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John Turco wrote:
> David J Taylor wrote:
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> <edited for brevity>
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>> Be aware that 18-55mm on a DSLR in similar in feild of view
>> to 27-82mm on a 35mm film camera.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>
>
> Hello, David:
>
> Minor correction: That's not true of a full-frame DSLR.
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur.RemoveThis@concentric.net>
The thread is entitled D40/D40x, to which my incorrectly spelt comment
applies.
Cheers,
David >> Stay informed about: Nikon D40/D40x + night lens ? |
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